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Fri Jul 8, 2016, 09:56 PM

 

Newt Gingrich: 'If you are a normal white American ... you don’t understand being black in America'

It took me a long time, and a number of people talking to me through the years to get a sense of this," said Gingrich, who served as speaker from 1990 until 1995 and who represented an Atlanta-area congressional district for two decades.

"If you are a normal white American, the truth is you don’t understand being black in America," he said.

White Americans "instinctively underestimate the level of discrimination and the level of additional risk," he said.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-updates-1468001199-htmlstory.html

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Reply Newt Gingrich: 'If you are a normal white American ... you don’t understand being black in America' (Original post)
Liberal_in_LA Jul 2016 OP
AntiBank Jul 2016 #1
arcane1 Jul 2016 #7
uppityperson Jul 2016 #2
MH1 Jul 2016 #31
uppityperson Jul 2016 #34
napkinz Jul 2016 #3
AntiBank Jul 2016 #8
leftofcool Jul 2016 #4
Liberal_in_LA Jul 2016 #5
merrily Jul 2016 #6
LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #9
Lucky Luciano Jul 2016 #10
forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #11
Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #20
white_wolf Jul 2016 #12
lancer78 Jul 2016 #16
MFM008 Jul 2016 #29
Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #13
MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #23
Are_grits_groceries Jul 2016 #14
Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #22
Are_grits_groceries Jul 2016 #25
Rex Jul 2016 #15
Demonaut Jul 2016 #17
Ash_F Jul 2016 #18
sofa king Jul 2016 #26
Ash_F Jul 2016 #27
sofa king Jul 2016 #33
SheriffBob Jul 2016 #35
merrily Jul 2016 #19
Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #21
Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #24
Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #28
Loki Jul 2016 #30
Recursion Jul 2016 #32
SheriffBob Jul 2016 #36

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:02 PM

1. the Trumpf klanabee crowd isn't going like this spec of sanity

 

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Response to AntiBank (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:20 PM

7. They need to hear it, and hear from someone they'll pay attention to.

 

They'll tune out any halfway liberal politician saying the same words.

I hate agreeing with Newt, but I hate even more that this topic isn't already universally agreed-on

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:03 PM

2. Well that's different.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:42 AM

31. Stopped clock and all that.

But it's such an obvious point. It's so bizarre and sad that we feel the need to applaud someone for stating what should be freakin' obvious. But people go through life with such blinders that yeah, it needs to be pointed out whenever possible.

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Response to napkinz (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:25 PM

8. my God. The Freepers' heads must be exploding over Newt and Van Jones

 

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:10 PM

4. When did Newt start making sense?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:20 PM

6. As Colbert's character may have noted about your post, "It's funny 'cause it's true."

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:35 PM

9. Newt's just there to give Trump some breathing room. He's there to run interference in the media.

Remember he brought us the "Contract on America" which was full of statutory dog whistles. Trump is the Id of the GOP. Newt is the Ego trying to regain composure.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:46 PM

11. Well there goes that VP nod.

 

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Response to forjusticethunders (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 01:08 AM

20. see post 13

 

I pray I'm right. of all his prospective veeps, he's by FAR the most unlikeable. he'd be better off with Sarah, crazy eye killah

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:46 PM

12. Credit where credit is due

The man can be make sense when he wants too. It makes he wonder how much of his insane conservatism is an act.

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Response to white_wolf (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:21 PM

16. I say 90% of it n/t

 

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Response to white_wolf (Reply #12)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 03:25 AM

29. the guy who came up with a Contract on America?

oh he believes it.
He also believes that to win you cant be seen as throwing feces
and vomiting bile all over the world
like the hairless monkey dumpster fire.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:00 PM

13. this obviously clinches it: say hello to the newtveep.

 

that's the ONLY reason he'd vomit up such hypocritical garbanzo. they must think they'll pick up 10 or 20 African American votes, now, instead of 2.

who here thinks there's any other reason?

there is no more insincere, manipulative sociopath on the face of the planet than this pullulating, triffidic creep.

don't EVER believe a word he says.

start here:

http://fair.org/extra/language-a-key-mechanism-of-control/

Language: A Key Mechanism of Control’

Since winning control of Congress, Rep. Newt Gingrich (R.-Ga.) has constantly complained about “destructive” and “negative” coverage from the “liberal elite media.”

For example, when asked on Nightline (11/29/94) about his reference to the Clintons as “counter-culture McGoverniks,” he first insisted that he had been misquoted–“I used the term McGovernite, not McGovernik–it was one of those things that the Times picked up and therefore it’s now history” (actually, at least four different newspapers–including the New York Times–quoted Gingrich in their November 10 editions as calling the Clintons “counter-culture McGoverniks”)–and then blamed the media for selective reporting:

I didn’t say that to attack the president, I was asked an analytic question. But because I am now the next speaker, I am learning that everything I say has to be worded carefully and thought through at a level that I’ve never experienced before in my life.


In fact, the new speaker of the House–who once described his goal as “reshaping the entire nation through the news media” (New York Times, 12/14/94)–has given a great deal of thought to the media and how to manipulate them. One Newtonian axiom is “fights make news” (Boston Globe, 11/20/94). Another skill he has taught to Republican candidates through his political organization, GOPAC, is how to create a “shield issue” to deflect criticism:

“A shield issue is just, you know, your opponent is going to attack you as lacking compassion,” a GOPAC training tape advises. “You better find a good compassion issue where, you know, you show up in the local paper holding a baby in the neonatal center, and all you’re trying to do is shield yourself from the inevitable attack.”

But the clearest expression of Gingrich’s philosophy of media came in a GOPAC memo entitled “Language: A Key Mechanism of Control.” Distributed to GOP candidates across the country, the memo’s list of “The words in that paper are tested language from a recent series of focus groups where we actually tested ideas and language.” words for Democrats and words for Republicans was endorsed by Gingrich in a cover letter:Next time you hear Gingrich complain about media focusing on the negative, refer back to these lists.

As you know, one of the key points in the GOPAC tapes is that “language matters.” In the video “We Are a Majority,” Langauage is listed as akey mechanism of control used by a majority party, along with Agenda, Rules, Attitude and Learning. As the tapes have been used in training sessions across the country and mailed to candidates, we have heard a plaintive plea: “I wish I could speak like Newt.”That takes years of practice. But we believe that you could have a significant impact on your campaign and the way you communicate if we help a little. That is why we have created this list of words and phrases.

This list is prepared so that you might have a directory of words to use in writing literature and mail, in preparing speeches, and in producing electronic media. The words and phrases are powerful. Read them. Memorize as many as possible. And remember that, like any tool, these words will not help if they are not used….



this next is from 2012, when he was actually leading the pug primaries for awhile, until it became just how much of an ASShole, a repellent douchebag as a personality he is, became apparent to a national electorate. even the average repub nincompoop voter saw what a DICK he is. that's why I'm hoping Trump picks him.
NObody who gets to know him doesn't loathe him. what a pair they'll make.

here's how this uberscum got started with his revolutionary use of newtspeak:

Newtspeak has become part of the contrasting — some would say hyperbolic — language commonly heard in today’s political discourse.

Joseph Crespino, an Emory University historian, said Gingrich “has the ability to channel a certain disenchantment and to frame certain issues in a way that has a real visceral reaction to people.”

Gingrich’s debate performances in Florida last week got less-than-enthusiastic reviews. But his style was clear during the final South Carolina primary debate, which he started by getting a rousing ovation when he blamed the “destructive, vicious, negative nature” of the media for making it so hard to govern. He ended the debate calling President Obama “the most dangerous president of our lifetime” who, if re-elected, would bring a “level of radicalism” that would be “truly frightening.”


http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local-govt-politics/gingrichs-language-set-new-course/nQQpm/

lots of stuff, but if he's the nominee, it's time the MSM does a tiny bit of digging and exposes what an Orwellian/Goebellian swine from the depths this guy really is.

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #13)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 01:13 AM

23. Agreed. It's opportunistic posturing.

Not to say he's wrong, and honestly his people need to hear it. But he'd never be saying it if he weren't trying to lock up the VP slot.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:15 PM

14. I am amazed he said this.

This cannot be a statement that the Trumpettes will like at all. Even those who are remotely near the mainstream won't like it. This is antithetical to everything the GOP has preached about for decades.
I am still trying to figure his angle. There are a brazillion statements he could make that would address the problems of race that would not be as heretical as this one. It is an astounding statement for Newt to make and truthfully it's one many have a hard time believing.
This is a cold hard truth he flung out there.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 01:11 AM

22. I think it's a calculated outreach to minorities,not just african americans

 

I hope I'm right, and he picks newt.....he reached his nadir in 98, when he literally stepped on his own dick, and has been trying to crawl back. 2012 showed how much the general populace loathed him, and I hope trump is his typical tone deaf self>>>>PICK NEWT, Please!

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #22)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 01:23 AM

25. Ain't no minority gonna listen to Newt.

His track record on that is long, sordid, and easily found.He may pick up a few naifs but that's all.
I still wonder why he said THIS. That is so far out of GOP orthodoxy it makes my head spin. He could have reached out with a bold statement but this is BOLD.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:19 PM

15. A lot of us knew he was a white supremacist, like Pat Buchanan.

 

Newt and his Contract On America. FUCK NEWT.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:39 PM

17. swap "normal" with "average" and you have an valid statement

it's the small things that trip newt up

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 12:40 AM

18. Boy do I not trust him.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #18)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 01:35 AM

26. A sociopath saying what people want to hear.

I think it's downright frightening to hear a person such as Gingrich say such things. I know for sure that he doesn't give a damn and will never lift a finger to fix the problem, and worse he will turn on a dime to capitalize on racial tension in the same paragraph, if he feels it works to his advantage. Gingrich's entire life's work is testimony against his reasonable-sounding doubletalk.

But Gingrich is diabolical enough to say it because he knows some people will believe him, while those who already follow him know exactly what he's about. Evil is most frightening when it is clever, too.

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Response to sofa king (Reply #26)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 01:36 AM

27. I just want to know what is his angle

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #27)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 11:40 AM

33. I'll tell you right now:

Get on the ticket as Trump's running mate, get close enough to steal it, then push Trump out or kill him.

Acting like a Dick Cheney, he'll front-load Trump's term with the most evil deeds so that he can deflect blame from himself, and if he can make Trump take the blame for two full years, Gingrich will be eligible to run as an incumbent, twice.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #18)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 11:51 AM

35. Me neither

Newt's a Poe. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. He speaks with a forked tongue.

What a sophist.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 12:45 AM

19. Has Newt Gingrich ever experienced any kind of discrimination based on who he is and cannot

change, even if he desperately wanted to change?

American women have experienced it, whether they know or admit it or not. Members of the LGBT community have experienced it. People of color have experienced it. Members of some ethnic and religious groups have experienced it. Challenged people have experienced it.

Members of one group that has been discriminated against may not understand the particular experience of members of another group that has been discriminated against. But, people who have been discriminated against because of things they did not choose and cannot change, even if they wanted to change them, at least understand being discriminated against.

Hetero, healthy white males generally don't have that experience.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 01:09 AM

21. Only other subject I've ever heard him make that much sense on, is space exploration.

What can I say? He's right.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #21)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 01:13 AM

24. don't believe a word of it....pure calculation. he has no heart or soul.

 

if you followed his career, you'll see that he is another completely malignant narcissist, who care about nothing or nobody but himself

all you have to do is follow the story of his three marriages

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #24)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 03:07 AM

28. I'm not making a broad assesment about the man's character

and believe me, I've been paying attention for a very long time.

I'm just saying that, on this particular statement, he's correct. Doesn't mean his motivations for making it are pure, or not. Just means he stated fact.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:28 AM

30. If no one can see what this really is, boy are we all blind.

How many times did he have to rinse his mouth out after that. He's trying to make the Trump/Gingrich ticket palatable to the AA community. "Normal white American" if that doesn't ring your bell, then nothing will. The ugly insinuation that African Americans are just not "normal Americans" is pretty clear. They just can't speak those words without giving themselves away.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:47 AM

32. Gingrich was speaker from 1995 to 1999

He was minority leader from 1991 to 1995.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 11:55 AM

36. What?

What has this lard ass ever done for the underclass?

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