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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:11 AM Jul 2016

Please make room under the bus for Robert Reich

He obviously wants Trump as President (sarcasm thingy here for those w/o the gene)


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/robert-reich-is-furious-with-debbie-wasserman-schultz-after-alleged-email-leak-fire-her-now/


Robert Reich is furious with Debbie Wasserman Schultz after alleged email leak: ‘Fire her now’

The alleged leaks reveal emails from staffers questioning former Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders’ faith, Wasserman Schultz contacting NBC political news director Chuck Todd questioning commentary on “Morning Joe” and calling Republican nominee Donald Trump names.

Reich wrote on a Facebook post Saturday that the alleged emails “clearly show the DNC tried to sandbag Bernie’s campaign. As such, he believes “Hillary should fire Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Now. Don’t wait until next week to replace her.”

Reich continues, giving examples of alleged Clinton preference when the party should have remained impartial. “When the director of communications wanted to complain to CNN about a segment the network aired in which Bernie said he would oust the chairwoman if he were elected, Wasserman Schultz emails back, ‘he isn’t going to be president,'” he wrote.

“Other emails show officials of the DNC using ‘us’ language when referring to Hillary supporters and ‘them’ language in reference to Bernie’s,” Reich believes this is further evidence that the DNC was secretly working behind closed doors to help Clinton in the primary over Sanders.
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Please make room under the bus for Robert Reich (Original Post) Scuba Jul 2016 OP
He's been under my bus rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #1
He's asking Hillary to oust DWS for helping Hillary? And what about the other DNC employees who did merrily Jul 2016 #2
She's the chairwoman of the DNC SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2016 #7
I agree, but that's a different issue from expecting Hillary to fire her. merrily Jul 2016 #48
Terry McAuliffe called for the resignation of DWS and anyone else involved... DonViejo Jul 2016 #41
Calling upon DWS to resign is different from calling on Hillary to fire her. merrily Jul 2016 #47
And just how do you expect Sec'y Clinton to fire her when she doesn't have the nomination... DonViejo Jul 2016 #50
Please quote the words from Reply 2 that I used to say that I expect Hillary to fire her. merrily Jul 2016 #52
He has reason to be furious. No bus needed. FBaggins Jul 2016 #3
^^ This right here ^^ Scuba Jul 2016 #5
What did they do beyond discussion? misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #8
Examples at the link below ... Scuba Jul 2016 #12
That's it?? Sounds like a typical campaign doesn't it? Opponants vying for voters. misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #19
Clear violations of the impartiality rule ... Scuba Jul 2016 #20
Did this occur before or after the voter data theft? misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #23
Both, apparently. Scuba Jul 2016 #25
Scuba - 1 x misterhighwasted - 0 nt retrowire Jul 2016 #33
The DNC's opponent PatSeg Jul 2016 #32
The DNC is not part of any candidate's primary campaign. merrily Jul 2016 #49
^^^^this Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #9
I never got involved SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2016 #4
I never got involved either PatSeg Jul 2016 #36
What action was taken to prove bias? misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #6
Sometimes defense rides missing intent, sometimes it rides interpretations of 'acts'. HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #13
I agree with Reich. She should be replaced asap. nt DLevine Jul 2016 #10
Trump and Sanders had two things in common. randome Jul 2016 #11
Has Hillary been running against Putin all along? misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #24
I expect another accolade about Putin's soulful eyes should Trump win. randome Jul 2016 #27
Again..America is great Again... Herr TrumpnPutinpence misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #35
Still fighting the Primary? That will get you alerted here. FailureToCommunicate Jul 2016 #34
I thought it might be borderline but I think the similarities are interesting. randome Jul 2016 #38
DWS should be fired and replaced with the most right wing Democrat there is. Be careful what you OnDoutside Jul 2016 #14
You mean there are Democrats further right than Debbie? I mean she supports Republicans ... Scuba Jul 2016 #15
Yes, yes, even more than Debs OnDoutside Jul 2016 #16
The "lesser of evils" argument. I'm so sick of that. Scuba Jul 2016 #22
What Scuba said elmac Jul 2016 #29
And I'm so sick of the faux outrage, that is happier to see a bloodletting than OnDoutside Jul 2016 #42
If you're OK with the DNC violating its own impartiality rule that's your business. I'm not. Scuba Jul 2016 #43
My only concern is Hillary Clinton beating Donald Trump. Now if it transpires that DWS was behind a OnDoutside Jul 2016 #44
I'm able to do more than one thing at a time. You probably are too. Scuba Jul 2016 #45
Yes, especially building bridges and getting over them, while moving on. OnDoutside Jul 2016 #46
That was my reaction as well PatSeg Jul 2016 #37
Embarrassing use of a now passé metaphor. OilemFirchen Jul 2016 #17
Facebook, etc., have been full of this for few days, posted by Trump supporters. Hoyt Jul 2016 #18
Yep, the DNC has exposed the party to criticism. Scuba Jul 2016 #21
exactly, its not Bernies fault, its not HRC's fault elmac Jul 2016 #30
Whatever, this is not the time for sour grapes. Hoyt Jul 2016 #31
How dare Reich speak truth to power? guillaumeb Jul 2016 #26
He was never a Democrat anyway Arazi Jul 2016 #28
"Secretly"? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #39
Wasserman /schultz needs to go for many many reasons, not just one. lark Jul 2016 #40
He's one of the good ones. alarimer Jul 2016 #51
I don't know that Hillary COULD "fire" her. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2016 #53

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. He's asking Hillary to oust DWS for helping Hillary? And what about the other DNC employees who did
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:13 AM
Jul 2016

the same?

I'll throw Reich under the bus, but for reasons other than recommending DWS's dismissal.

https://timcanova.com/

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
7. She's the chairwoman of the DNC
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jul 2016

It's ultimately her responsibility to enforce the parameters of what's permitted and what's not permitted. And with responsibility comes accountability.

Time for her to demonstrate that.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
41. Terry McAuliffe called for the resignation of DWS and anyone else involved...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jul 2016

he was chair of the DNC 2001 - 2005

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
50. And just how do you expect Sec'y Clinton to fire her when she doesn't have the nomination...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:52 AM
Jul 2016

or the power to do so, at least until she has the nomination?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
52. Please quote the words from Reply 2 that I used to say that I expect Hillary to fire her.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:15 AM
Jul 2016

My point all along has been that Reich should not be calling on Hillary to fire Debbie.

However, let's not play brand new, either. If Hillary did not want her out, she would not have resigned.

FBaggins

(26,714 posts)
3. He has reason to be furious. No bus needed.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:15 AM
Jul 2016

There's a difference between supporting our candidate and making sure that we recognize that our future processes for selecting a Democratic nominee are... well... actually democratic.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
19. That's it?? Sounds like a typical campaign doesn't it? Opponants vying for voters.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jul 2016

Do you really believe that any other campaign doesn't fight for their position?
I didn't hear much kumbaying for Hillary from the Sanders campaign either. Nasty worked both ways.

This is beyond over the top.
Pffft.
Glad we aren't reliving that ugly primary. Both sides have ugly actions to account for.

Putin's Russian hackers cherry picked for a reason. And the timing is perfectly placed.
The dots are unfortunately are cleverly hidden behind the big omg news feed.





merrily

(45,251 posts)
49. The DNC is not part of any candidate's primary campaign.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:39 PM
Jul 2016

Not as though this stuff hasn't been all over DU since the debate schedule was announced a year ago.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
4. I never got involved
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:17 AM
Jul 2016

in the Bernie/Hillary wars here, other than serving on countless juries for GD-P posts. My goal was and is to win the Presidency, either with Hillary or with Bernie.

But this truly is disappointing, and saying that DWS and the DNC were in the bag for Hillary doesn't mean I want to Trump to win, it just means that I expect better out of Democrats, namely, DNC impartiality during the primaries.

Good post, thanks for sharing it.

PatSeg

(47,168 posts)
36. I never got involved either
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:56 AM
Jul 2016

For the most part I stayed away from DU during the primaries and when I visited, it was for Breaking News or non-political threads. I never ventured into GD-P territory. I would have lost my mind.

One issue that has bothered me, however, from the beginning of the primaries has been how Wasserman Schultz was running the DNC. I wanted more debates and I wanted them aired at reasonable times. It was not for a preference of any one candidate, but I thought Democrats deserved it.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
13. Sometimes defense rides missing intent, sometimes it rides interpretations of 'acts'.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:46 AM
Jul 2016

People are entitled to the best defense they can get. That doesn't mean the best defense is honest or even in the defense of honesty.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. Trump and Sanders had two things in common.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:33 AM
Jul 2016

1. Both joined a party they had no interest in serving.
2. Neither of them released their tax returns.

I think it's understandable why some within the party did not like Sanders. That being said, more of an effort should have been made to be as impartial as possible. But human beings are emotional, not rational, creatures.
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randome

(34,845 posts)
27. I expect another accolade about Putin's soulful eyes should Trump win.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jul 2016

We don't want everything to remain the same in the world but we also don't want to throw it into turmoil just so we can shout, 'America is Great!'
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misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
35. Again..America is great Again... Herr TrumpnPutinpence
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:56 AM
Jul 2016

Ya "we should be more like Russia and Fidel had a great governing style"
We've sure heard this theme inserted into the 2016 campaign..more often then we ever should have.
The bigger picture is revealing itself lately and its not the picture of America's future anyone should be ok with.




 

randome

(34,845 posts)
38. I thought it might be borderline but I think the similarities are interesting.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:06 PM
Jul 2016

It relates to the OP because DNC insiders being disdainful of an outsider is not an isolated incident. The RNC is not all that supportive of their own outsider.
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OnDoutside

(19,943 posts)
14. DWS should be fired and replaced with the most right wing Democrat there is. Be careful what you
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jul 2016

wish for !

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
15. You mean there are Democrats further right than Debbie? I mean she supports Republicans ...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:59 AM
Jul 2016

... over Democrats already.

OnDoutside

(19,943 posts)
42. And I'm so sick of the faux outrage, that is happier to see a bloodletting than
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jul 2016

Donald Trump being beaten.

OnDoutside

(19,943 posts)
44. My only concern is Hillary Clinton beating Donald Trump. Now if it transpires that DWS was behind a
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jul 2016

campaign to take down Sanders, then she should go, but not before November. To go sooner would be to give advantage to Trump.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
17. Embarrassing use of a now passé metaphor.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:21 AM
Jul 2016

Try this instead: "That train left the station long ago."

Or this: "Your slip is showing."

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. Facebook, etc., have been full of this for few days, posted by Trump supporters.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:51 AM
Jul 2016

We have more important things to do right now.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
30. exactly, its not Bernies fault, its not HRC's fault
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jul 2016

The DNC and only the DNC owns this mess and they better be working hard to make things right including firing DWS immediately!

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
31. Whatever, this is not the time for sour grapes.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jul 2016

I think she will be dealt with accordingly.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
26. How dare Reich speak truth to power?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jul 2016

Definitely under the bus.

But seriously, did Reich expect anything different?

lark

(23,058 posts)
40. Wasserman /schultz needs to go for many many reasons, not just one.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jul 2016

1 - she;s not a real dem, supports FL Repugs over Dem candidates. This sin is unforgivable and by itself is sufficient to disqualify her.
2 - Supports Israel over the US. Supported little murderer when he came here just to embarass Obama.
3 - Worst Dem losses have been under her so called leadership
4 - not an honest broker in her role as party chair


Get her out of there. Reich is 100% correct on this need for action,

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
51. He's one of the good ones.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 08:38 AM
Jul 2016

There are a lot of people who are going to be needed to pressure Hillary from the left. He's one of them. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are others. We cannot let the selection of Time Kaine move the dial back to the right. And Schultz has been worse than useless as DNC chair anyway, emails notwithstanding.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,142 posts)
53. I don't know that Hillary COULD "fire" her.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:24 AM
Jul 2016

But I DO know that the Clintons have the political clout to make it happen, if they so desire.

Either way, it's now moot. DWS is going, soon to be gone (and good riddance).

I don't know that immediately appointing her as Honorary Chairperson of the HRC campaign was a terrific idea, though. I know "honoraries" don't really do spit, bit it smacks of giving her a pat on the back for doing such a good job in her previous position, which leads to all sorts of different interpretations (some not so benign).

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