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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:54 AM Oct 2016

The Probability That 40% Of Voters Would Choose Trump? Really Really Scary.

The probability that millions of voters would choose Trump really says a lot about us as a country. Trump is obviously very sick in some way. His voters are too from the way they act.

And the rest of the world must be terrified. And we should be very embarrassed ourselves.

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The Probability That 40% Of Voters Would Choose Trump? Really Really Scary. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Oct 2016 OP
Many/most of them are choosing the party, not the man, but your point stands. Still In Wisconsin Oct 2016 #1
i get that, so the 40% aren't "fully" endorsing him, but what they're saying is unblock Oct 2016 #3
Yep, that's a pretty good synopsis. n/t Still In Wisconsin Oct 2016 #14
Most countries have 40% extremist issues now days beachbumbob Oct 2016 #2
Those 40% would choose a wet brick, LIVs don't often change uponit7771 Oct 2016 #4
What is LIV? **Edit- nevermind" awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #10
It is really quite alarming still_one Oct 2016 #5
Most of them are voting against Hillary, not voting for Trump davidn3600 Oct 2016 #6
That's the two-party system for you bigwillq Oct 2016 #7
It Is Unlikely The Democrats Would Run Anyone Like Trump. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2016 #8
Anger and fear Trump rational thought Martin Eden Oct 2016 #9
even if you were angry and afraid Skittles Oct 2016 #16
Trump is worse than that Martin Eden Oct 2016 #17
After Hillary wins Abouttime Oct 2016 #20
Punished ... how? Martin Eden Oct 2016 #21
Yes, of course Abouttime Oct 2016 #23
Trumps got the god vote, yortsed snacilbuper Oct 2016 #11
I agree, unbelievable! n/t ScienceIsGood Oct 2016 #12
We're a very polarized country JonLP24 Oct 2016 #13
it is disgusting and sickening Skittles Oct 2016 #15
One thing in the US' favor is that so many republicans are too effing stupid to figure out how to underahedgerow Oct 2016 #18
Yes it is. But let's hope their location favors a Dem electoral win. Mamajami Oct 2016 #19
Republican party sentiment has congealed, predictably. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #22

unblock

(52,126 posts)
3. i get that, so the 40% aren't "fully" endorsing him, but what they're saying is
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:15 AM
Oct 2016

that the hope of a maybe, measly tax cut is plenty enough to overcome whatever objections they may have to his toxic personality and social agenda.

seriously, the average republican will be lucky to get a few hundred bucks off their taxes.

so they may not be bigots voluntarily, but they're happy to act like one for a small fee.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. Most countries have 40% extremist issues now days
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:00 AM
Oct 2016

Not a big deal as long as the rest of us get off our collective asses and vote

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
7. That's the two-party system for you
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:47 AM
Oct 2016

We get two options that can potentially win

Most Right-leaning folks will vote for Rs, most left-leaning folks will vote for Ds because they are aware that either the R or the D will win

I think if Ds ran a candidate as equally as awful as Trump, most Ds would still vote for that candidate just because they are a D and know that either the R or D is going to win. I think those folks would rather elect the D, even if the D was terrible.

Kind of the same with Trump. If you're an R or right-leaning, no way they vote D so they're gonna vote for Trump or against the D.

Martin Eden

(12,847 posts)
9. Anger and fear Trump rational thought
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 12:28 PM
Oct 2016

And what rational thought they do possess is built on a foundation of decades of propaganda from Faux News and hate radio.

Skittles

(153,122 posts)
16. even if you were angry and afraid
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 11:19 PM
Oct 2016

HOW do they think DONALD FUCKING TRUMP is *ANY* kind of answer? HE IS A RICH, CHEATING ASSHOLE.

Martin Eden

(12,847 posts)
17. Trump is worse than that
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 11:41 PM
Oct 2016

There is no justification for voting for him, but there are psychological explanations why people do.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
20. After Hillary wins
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 09:20 AM
Oct 2016

The trump voters should be shunned or even punished.
Casting a vote for such a vile human being is beyond the pale.
Here we have arguably the candidate with the perfect resume to become our first female President.
Hillary, in a thinking man's world, should be the unanimous choice but misogyny raises its ugly head in the image of trump.
So yes, misogyny should be punished.

Martin Eden

(12,847 posts)
21. Punished ... how?
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:52 AM
Oct 2016

In a free democracy you don't punish people for how they vote. Educate them, if possible. Some are irredeemable, but others are mostly misinformed and misled.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
23. Yes, of course
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 01:09 PM
Oct 2016

Like I said they should be shunned, the redeemable should admit the error of their ways and hopefully get enlightened.
The irredeemable should get a long hard look at the way they they do buisness.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
13. We're a very polarized country
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:30 PM
Oct 2016

Voters have been trending this direction becoming more and more polarized.

538

Geographic sorting — Voters tend to cluster near other people who share their cultural and political values, and the parties’ coalitions have become far more geographically isolated in recent decades. In the 1960 Kennedy-Nixon election, 52 percent of the nation’s voters lived in states decided by 5 percentage points or less. In the 2012 Obama-Romney race, just 17 percent of all voters lived in such states.

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As a corollary, there are far fewer truly competitive congressional districts. Just 90 of 435 House districts had a Cook Political Report Partisan Voter Index score, an attempt to measure the partisan lean of an area independent of the candidates on the ballot, between D+5 and R+5, down 45 percent from 164 in 1998.

Sure, gerrymandering has played a role in the House, but sorting is the dominant factor: In the impossible-to-gerrymander Senate, the number of seats with a score between D+5 and R+5 has declined from 52 in 1998 to 28 today.

2. Straight-ticket voting — Voters are splitting their tickets — voting for a Republican for one office and a Democrat for another — at lower rates than we’ve seen in decades. They’re just not making distinctions between parties’ presidential and congressional candidates like they used to. The decline of local news readership probably plays a role — after all, these outlets have traditionally provided an avenue for candidates to build a personal brand independent of their party’s.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-political-process-isnt-rigged-it-has-much-bigger-problems/

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
18. One thing in the US' favor is that so many republicans are too effing stupid to figure out how to
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 01:22 AM
Oct 2016

vote. Seriously, ran across a girl whining about how difficult it was to understand a voting ballot and why were all those other names on there, and what did it mean.

Small mercies is all I can say.

Fortunately, Clinton is swaying the independents and undecideds. Those people will make ALL the difference.

It's OUR job to help the undecideds jump to Clinton, with positive language, positive information and Clinton's good message.

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