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The ninth Justice (Original Post) Cartoonist Oct 2016 OP
You are not alone... Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #1
yes this one outrages me treestar Oct 2016 #2
yet another weakness of our pathetic media. there's no "news" because nothing changes. unblock Oct 2016 #3
Good point Cartoonist Oct 2016 #7
i think it needs really media-savvy experts sending them talking points every day unblock Oct 2016 #11
I'd suggest tweeting it - to any media/talk show hosts/talking heads you can think of. calimary Oct 2016 #25
The perfect vengeance? Moostache Oct 2016 #4
Sad to say - the hold up is the election! Laf.La.Dem. Oct 2016 #5
President Obama should withdraw Garland's nomination if Hillary wins. roamer65 Oct 2016 #8
I hope that is what happens!! wcast Oct 2016 #16
I don't want President Obama to do that... Kensan Oct 2016 #24
I just heard on Rachel's show that there are very few days left in the lame duck session. femmocrat Oct 2016 #19
I am also extremely bothered by Obama's not pushing this. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2016 #6
It would be an issue for the Supreme Court ArcticFox Oct 2016 #22
I'm not sure it would be an issue for the Supreme Court. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2016 #31
I agree, but otherwise nothing to do ArcticFox Oct 2016 #36
I bring it up now and then. Hugin Oct 2016 #9
If we don't take back the Senate Cartoonist Oct 2016 #10
If they run the Senate, they can do as they please. tritsofme Oct 2016 #13
maybe Clinton could appoint Obama ArcticFox Oct 2016 #21
Obama has said he does not want that job ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #37
I think about it. Amazes me how the america. People accepted the blocking if Obama's choice Liberal_in_LA Oct 2016 #40
I got outrage fatigue on this issue lordsummerisle Oct 2016 #12
K&R Jeffersons Ghost Oct 2016 #14
No one has forgotten, but no rant here will change the status quo DFW Oct 2016 #15
If senate dems gave a damn awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #17
It is a disgrace. gvstn Oct 2016 #18
All I know is ArcticFox Oct 2016 #20
First, Some of our best Justices have been thoughtful moderates.... Hekate Oct 2016 #30
Hillary has stated that she is not asking Obama to withdraw Garland's nomination ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #38
My Republican senator is reminded every time he posts on FB mountain grammy Oct 2016 #23
I am remaining absolutely furious n/t Mira Oct 2016 #26
What makes you think anyone here has forgotten SCOTUS? Hekate Oct 2016 #27
I'm outraged. But this is one more outrage in a string of outrages culminating in the nomination Nitram Oct 2016 #28
Rachel will tally another "Do Nothing Congress" soon. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #29
We just have to tell our pols that we want this to be remembered. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #32
i'm pissed as can be. these fuckers disrespect this President every chance they get. spanone Oct 2016 #33
It is a disgrace. deathrind Oct 2016 #34
hell no. the GOP needs to pay for their OUTRIGHT PARTISAN BULLSHIT. pansypoo53219 Oct 2016 #35
That and 45 out of 52 weeks of vacation. Who do they think they are anyway. We should stop paying lonestarnot Oct 2016 #39

unblock

(52,205 posts)
3. yet another weakness of our pathetic media. there's no "news" because nothing changes.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:37 AM
Oct 2016

of course, our media is more than capable of putting up a clock showing days since nomination and finding *some* excuse to talk about it every day.

they've done that with other stories when it suits republi-, i mean, when it suits them, going back to the iran hostage crisis.

they even did it recently with hillary's press conferences.


but mostly, unless someone pushes the media into it by feeding them talking points every day, they're not going to talk about a situation that isn't changing.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
7. Good point
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:45 AM
Oct 2016

So how do we push the media?

My main complaint is that this is blatant racism, not just partisan politics.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
11. i think it needs really media-savvy experts sending them talking points every day
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:54 AM
Oct 2016

as a coordinated effort. not just us peons but people who are really plugged in and who can line up and arrange guests to generate new stories and talking points and get them on all the shows.

there are many angles to having a 4-4 court for an extended period of time. the racism of yet another first in disrespectful treatment of a president who entiiirely coincidentally just happens to be the first black president is a good one to push, but there are many other angles, including the impact of a tie on case after case, not the least of which might be if any election-related dispute comes up.

but, yeah. what's crazy donnie said today!

calimary

(81,220 posts)
25. I'd suggest tweeting it - to any media/talk show hosts/talking heads you can think of.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 01:57 PM
Oct 2016

If you google their names, their Twitter handles will come up. If they don't automatically, just google his/her name AND the word Twitter and it will definitely come up.

Gets it on the record, and in front of others' eyes. ESPECIALLY if you add some other on-air person's Twitter handle, too. Then THEY'LL see it on their page also!

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
4. The perfect vengeance?
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:42 AM
Oct 2016

Hillary pulls the nomination and submits Barack Obama as the new justice in January...

Laf.La.Dem.

(2,943 posts)
5. Sad to say - the hold up is the election!
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:43 AM
Oct 2016

When Hillary wins - the Senate Republicans will confirm Judge Merrick Garland - they do not want to see Hillary's pick for the Supreme Court!

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
8. President Obama should withdraw Garland's nomination if Hillary wins.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:48 AM
Oct 2016

Just as a punishment to the Rethugs, let Hillary make the nomination.

Kensan

(180 posts)
24. I don't want President Obama to do that...
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 01:54 PM
Oct 2016

It would be much better if Garland, himself, simply withdrew his nomination. He could say how appreciative he was for the nomination, but that he doesn't want to become the storyline in partisan politics. The Republicans didn't do their job for several months, so Garland will take their own advice and leave the nomination for the next President.

Of course, he would have to say that he doesn't agree with the Republicans' assertion that a nominee in the final year should be put on indefinite hold until the next election. This is just recognizing the Senate Republicans have run out the clock, and have failed to perform one of their most important tasks empowered to them directly in the Constitution.

I'm really hoping Hillary gets a chance to nominate a justice that is much more fair-minded when it comes to interpreting the law and its consequences. This country needs to recover from the damage left behind by Scalia's "brilliance" in writing opinions to support his pre-determined verdicts (even if he completely reversed his own prior decisions). Without Scalia there to cajole his equally weak-minded conservatives, the USSC will have a chance to regain some of their lost prestige, and hopefully have a positive influence on important matters.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
19. I just heard on Rachel's show that there are very few days left in the lame duck session.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 01:30 PM
Oct 2016

McConnell does not plan to bring up Garland. He has an appropriations bill and (something else?) on his agenda, and that is it!

It was just on Rachel... maybe last night? She was talking about the 43-day weekend and showed a calendar of all the days when the Congress will be out of Washington until the end of the year.

Did anyone else see that?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,851 posts)
6. I am also extremely bothered by Obama's not pushing this.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:45 AM
Oct 2016

He should be out there every day talking about how the Senate is refusing to do its job, and pointing out that they are flat-out wrong when they claim nominations don't get considered in a President's final year of office.

Why he let them get away with this completely baffles me.

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
22. It would be an issue for the Supreme Court
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 01:43 PM
Oct 2016

And that is a pretty big risk. I do wish Obama would be using this more politically, though.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,851 posts)
31. I'm not sure it would be an issue for the Supreme Court.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 02:31 PM
Oct 2016

What he should be doing is talking every single day about how Congress isn't doing its job.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
9. I bring it up now and then.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:50 AM
Oct 2016

And it promptly sinks.

The only way I console myself is with the thought of who will be available to be on the USSC early next year... or his wife. :like:

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
13. If they run the Senate, they can do as they please.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 12:22 PM
Oct 2016

That's why winning the Senate in November is so essential.

DFW

(54,367 posts)
15. No one has forgotten, but no rant here will change the status quo
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 12:29 PM
Oct 2016

Only electing a Democratic majority in the US Senate will do that.

Concentrate on the Senate races in Nevada, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Illinois, Pennsylvania and North Carolina. THAT will get us our ninth Justice.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
18. It is a disgrace.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 12:53 PM
Oct 2016

To say it is the next president's right to nominate a justice is absurd.

Scalia died in Feb. that is 12 months or one year from January 20th, when the net president takes office. One year is a quarter of a president's term. Of course Obama should have had his nominee voted on. Ridiculous on its face to say a full year more in office does not count.

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
20. All I know is
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 01:39 PM
Oct 2016

Obama better withdraw that nomination as soon as Hillary Clinton is elected. We need someone a bit further to the left.

And remember, the Republicans want the next President to choose, so that would be a good show of bipartisanship.

Hekate

(90,660 posts)
30. First, Some of our best Justices have been thoughtful moderates....
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 02:16 PM
Oct 2016

Saying "Obama better do this or that" ... Well, no. He Vetted Garland, and he nominated him. I trust Obama's judgment.

Second, if Hillary ends up with the same Congress, she's going to have the same problems getting appoinments through as Obama's had.

Recently I heard we are 80 judges short on the Federal benches. That's all down to the GOP Congress. The Gingrich/ Tea Party types are not kidding when they say they are trying to destroy the government.

GOTV

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
38. Hillary has stated that she is not asking Obama to withdraw Garland's nomination
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:58 PM
Oct 2016

but that if Garland is not approved before the election, and she is elected, then she has indicated she may consider someone more progressive.

The Republicans may approve Garland in the lame duck session.

Of course their refusal even to hold hearings, and well before now, is an insult and an outrage. How is that even a question?

Sadly we have been faced with far too many insults and outrages from the right. I mean, who thought it was okay to shout out "Liar!" at the President? How does that even pass for thinking? and asking him to show his birth certificate, as if he was a teenager trying to buy beer with a fake id? There is no excuse possible for the disgraceful behavior that has been shown to both the person and the office of the President.

Obama has met it all with grace, composure, compassion, selflessness, intellect, and statesmanship. He will go down in history as one of the great presidents.

You know the rationale behind "Love your Enemy" once given by the Dalai Lama? He said that your enemy gives you chances your friends cannot, chances to demonstrate strength of character and indeed to strengthen oneself in that way by practicing the good qualities of character that enable you to overcome the assaults. Obama has been given the opportunity to rise above the low behavior of his opposition, and to shine like a bright light above the muck in which the right wing has mired itself, and into which they try to drag the rest of the country down. He has cast a light of hope and inspiration that all can see and that will continue to inspire us into the future.

So, use your outrage to energize yourself to work to get out the vote. We need a landslide. We need a Senate majority. We need to take back the House. Look to Obama's example as inspiration to draw strength for the fight we need to continue.

GET OUT THE VOTE

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
23. My Republican senator is reminded every time he posts on FB
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 01:46 PM
Oct 2016

almost every day, and there are many posters doing the reminding.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
28. I'm outraged. But this is one more outrage in a string of outrages culminating in the nomination
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 02:08 PM
Oct 2016

of Donald Dump. Government shutdowns, refusal to pass a budget without poison pill amendments, scores of useless debts and votes to repeal or defund Obamacare, a Vice President who outed a covert CIA officer, a president who left New Orleans to drown - need I go on?

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
32. We just have to tell our pols that we want this to be remembered.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 02:32 PM
Oct 2016

And we want our party to pay the repugs back, in spades, when the next opportunity arises.

I'm all for docking the pay of all repug Senate incumbents involved in this Garland scandal, when we retake the Senate.

I'm all for filibustering every business oriented political appointee, forever, the next time the repugs need confirmation hearings.

spanone

(135,828 posts)
33. i'm pissed as can be. these fuckers disrespect this President every chance they get.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 02:36 PM
Oct 2016

I hope when Hillary wins she appoints a raving liberal.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
34. It is a disgrace.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 02:40 PM
Oct 2016

The fact that here we are 9 months later and there still has not been a vote on a nominee is just another glaring example of the unprecedented republican obstructionism.

pansypoo53219

(20,974 posts)
35. hell no. the GOP needs to pay for their OUTRIGHT PARTISAN BULLSHIT.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 03:15 PM
Oct 2016

and the GNEWZ media lets them get away w/ this because they ARE PARTISAN IN THEY DON'T SAY IT. fuck the gnewz AND the GOP.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
39. That and 45 out of 52 weeks of vacation. Who do they think they are anyway. We should stop paying
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:17 PM
Oct 2016

them.

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