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Historian David McCullough has studied & written about Presidents. This is what he says about Trump (Original Post) kpete Oct 2016 OP
No surprise lillypaddle Oct 2016 #1
KNR Lucinda Oct 2016 #2
Their new anthem should be.. BassMazter2016 Oct 2016 #3
Wise words smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #4
Very well said, Mr. McCullough! n/t Martin Eden Oct 2016 #5
My very favorite historian. I would beg to differ on on point, though... Cooley Hurd Oct 2016 #6
I've Always Said That There Were 3 People Most Responsible for That Fall ProfessorGAC Oct 2016 #18
K & R Scurrilous Oct 2016 #7
Hopefully, enough of out citizens feel the same way and keep this menace far away from the WH. Ligyron Oct 2016 #8
If those are in fact Eisenhower's exact words in that order Matthew Rose Oct 2016 #9
To me it's the racism and sexism n/t hibbing Oct 2016 #10
because this hasn't been the party of Lincoln or even eisenhower for a long time JI7 Oct 2016 #11
No, it's the party of Lee Atwater, winning at any cost, and then Warpy Oct 2016 #12
Whatever it is that tRump tapped into, it's not new Cary Oct 2016 #13
K&R Jeffersons Ghost Oct 2016 #14
I cheerfully left the USA in 2005 after seeing the Halls of Democracy shat upon by the bush regime. underahedgerow Oct 2016 #15
He, is of course, right on. McCallum got it long ago. Bohunk68 Oct 2016 #16
In their desperate move to stop Hillary at all costs randr Oct 2016 #17
k and r niyad Oct 2016 #19
I love the C.A.R.E. point he made about the four key AmericanActivist Oct 2016 #20

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
1. No surprise
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 11:25 AM
Oct 2016

the GOP has lost all sense and sensibilities long ago. They are a pathetic and traitorous bunch. I hope they completely crash and burn.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
6. My very favorite historian. I would beg to differ on on point, though...
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 01:50 PM
Oct 2016

Reagan and Bush just *happened* to be POTUS when the fall of the Soviet Union took place.

That said, he is, as always, spot-on about everything else he said.

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
18. I've Always Said That There Were 3 People Most Responsible for That Fall
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 11:37 AM
Oct 2016

None are named Reagan or Bush
Walesa: He stared down the Soviet propped Polish government and exposed their inability to actually do anything about it given the debt and the losses of materiel and personnel in Afghanistan.
The Pope: He was openly critical of the totalitarian Soviets and the stealth catholicism of Poland and other eastern European countries became more visible. Then there were too many dissenters to crack down.
Ted Turner: He showed the west that one could make tons of money by broadcasting over satellite, particularly news. When European companies saw how successful this was in the states, the flow of information became impossible for the Soviets to suppress.

Reagan really had nothing to do with it. Even the military build up didn't matter, because we could have gone a bought 10 million BB guns and the Soviets would not have been able to do the same. They were out of money.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
8. Hopefully, enough of out citizens feel the same way and keep this menace far away from the WH.
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 02:06 PM
Oct 2016

I really like the way this election has been shaping up recently and hope the problems for Trump continue to be rolled out right up to election day.

Plus, more than a few have voted by mail already.

Hillary is as smart as they come but these upcoming debate are a wild card IMHO. He knows he has to strike on this next one or he's pretty much toast and there's no telling what they might come up with besides the predictable shit. He may actually pay attention in debate prep this time. Hillary needs to bait him into another mine field again and I'll bet she and her team will have some good stuff up their sleeves for this second one.

Thankfully, Trump can't help himself, is fairly easily played and easily thrown off whatever game he brings. The GOP leadership have got to be beside themselves having this idiot for a candidate.

Matthew Rose

(66 posts)
9. If those are in fact Eisenhower's exact words in that order
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 02:23 PM
Oct 2016

then it is five things:

Character
Ability
Responsibility
Experience

JI7

(89,247 posts)
11. because this hasn't been the party of Lincoln or even eisenhower for a long time
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 05:27 PM
Oct 2016

They started to attract people who were anti lincoln into their party and thosr people took over.

And media never called it out. They normalized the bigotry and made it acceptable.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
12. No, it's the party of Lee Atwater, winning at any cost, and then
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 06:24 PM
Oct 2016

not knowing what to do with what they've won.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
13. Whatever it is that tRump tapped into, it's not new
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 01:06 AM
Oct 2016

It's been churning and boiling under the surface for a long time. Their anti-intellectualism is not new. Their anti-government is not new. Their racism and bigotry is certainly not new. Their stupidity and ugliness is as old as humanity.

Perhaps it turns out to be a good thing that tRump brought it all out into the sunlight? Perhaps this election deals a substantial, if not mortal blow to at least part of.their garbage?

I still have hope.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
15. I cheerfully left the USA in 2005 after seeing the Halls of Democracy shat upon by the bush regime.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 01:16 AM
Oct 2016

I was giddy with joy that Obama was elected and felt like the country of my birth was finally in safe hands.

I wasn't sad to leave the bullying, the trashy characters, the low life grifters and the mean, hateful drunken, drug addled male patriarchy. I don't miss the abject poverty with the wealthy stepping over the passed out bodies of the poor on every single effing street. I don't miss lots of things.

I miss my amazing friends, I miss the amazing food.... But I don't miss the ignorance and general mismanagement of the entire economic and political system that indulges the rich white lying fuckers that want only to line their pockets and exploit everyone in their way.

I genuinely fear for the future of the USA under a trump. I know Mrs. Clinton will be an outstanding President, I always said she plays well with the big boys, and she's a good woman. However, if she is elected to office, the wave of malice, bile, villainous rhetoric and horrid, hateful mountains of evil and anger that will be directed towards her will be unparallelled in human history.

I don't want to be anywhere near all that bitter and vicious anger...

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
16. He, is of course, right on. McCallum got it long ago.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 06:53 AM
Oct 2016

About a week ago, on Global Spirit on Link TV, they had a Sufi who used the following phrase: "They are suffering from their fear of meaninglessness." The other guest, a Dr. Needleman and the host had discussion as to the meaning of the phrase. "They" in this instance, can actually mean all of us, and the scary part is that Donald speaks to that fear in those who are afraid of being meaningless. Pretty much all of us. Except for those who are not letting fear override their inner being. The entire program was one to be recommended. As a Lutheran, I was surprised to hear Grace described exactly, by the Sufi, as I hear it and understand it.

randr

(12,411 posts)
17. In their desperate move to stop Hillary at all costs
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 09:55 AM
Oct 2016

the Republicans pulled a candidate out of their ass that would vie for the anti establishment populist voting block that, if directed, may likely beat Clinton.
Pence is the ringer in all this. He, like Cheney, would allow the idiot to appear to run thing while he would place the frightwing tea bagger ideology smack dab in the center of power.
The fix is on and I suspect even the Donald is not sure how it will worked.
Fortunately for the Nation the train came off the rails.

AmericanActivist

(1,019 posts)
20. I love the C.A.R.E. point he made about the four key
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:23 AM
Oct 2016

qualities Dwight Eisenhower said presidents must have: 1) character; 2) ability; 3) responsibility; and 4) experience.

Thanks for sharing this.

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