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Marr

(20,317 posts)
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 04:39 PM Oct 2016

Airline Kicks Woman Off Flight, Because She Can't Sit Next to Men

Hakima Abdulle of Takoma Park was flying from Washington, D.C., to Seattle Wednesday when she was seated between two men after a layover in Chicago, her husband, Abukar Fidaw, told WJLA.

The devout Muslim, who is from Somalian descent and was wearing a hijab, felt uncomfortable sitting between two people of the opposite sex, so she asked another passenger to trade seats. The other flyer agreed, but a flight attendant confronted Abdulle before she could move to the new spot, Fidaw said.

“She tried to sit but (the flight attendant) said, ‘You are not going to sit. You have to leave the airplane,’” Abukar Fidaw said. Humiliated, Abdulle left the plane as instructed. She was booked onto another flight later that day.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/muslim-woman-kicked-southwest-flight-article-1.2603853

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Airline Kicks Woman Off Flight, Because She Can't Sit Next to Men (Original Post) Marr Oct 2016 OP
She solved the problem herself JustAnotherGen Oct 2016 #1
Yes, just what I was thinking. smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #3
Funny how this works, isn't it? brer cat Oct 2016 #4
What a strikingly different action than those suffragette Oct 2016 #2
Two different airlines Egnever Oct 2016 #5
Never ever does sex/gender play a role. Never ever! boston bean Oct 2016 #6
it shouldn't Egnever Oct 2016 #7
Right. boston bean Oct 2016 #8
Southwest does not have assigned seating. LeftyMom Oct 2016 #9
Agreed. What's next? MicaelS Oct 2016 #10
Probably since everyone wants a "safe space" these days davidn3600 Oct 2016 #13
Which time? There seem to have been a number of times women were asked and expected to suffragette Oct 2016 #15
Which time what? Egnever Oct 2016 #16
Not just two different airlines. Several airlines have apparently requested women move suffragette Oct 2016 #18
Not to defend the airline as either way they would be wrong mythology Oct 2016 #11
This story is six months old (from April) oberliner Oct 2016 #12
Southwest - the shitty airline. geardaddy Oct 2016 #14
I disagree Skittles Oct 2016 #21
It rings false. Igel Oct 2016 #17
I suspect there was a lot more to the story Major Nikon Oct 2016 #19
Southwest does not have assigned seating Skittles Oct 2016 #20

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
1. She solved the problem herself
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 04:59 PM
Oct 2016

And they still kicked her off? Yet when it's men with that type of belief the woman gets moved to another seat?

Interesting.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. Yes, just what I was thinking.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 05:16 PM
Oct 2016

Men are accommodated. Women are removed from the situation. Hardly seems fair.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
2. What a strikingly different action than those
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 05:01 PM
Oct 2016

That have been taken when women have had to move out of deference to men.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
5. Two different airlines
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 05:28 PM
Oct 2016

Not really surprising their policies would be different.

In my opinion the people complaining should have been booted in both cases. It is unreasonable to expect not to sit next to someone of the opposite sex on a commercial flight. That kind of behavior should not be tolerated from any sex.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
15. Which time? There seem to have been a number of times women were asked and expected to
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 06:03 PM
Oct 2016

move to another seat.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
16. Which time what?
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 06:06 PM
Oct 2016

in my opinion the person complaining about sitting next to the opposite sex should be booted every time.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
18. Not just two different airlines. Several airlines have apparently requested women move
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 06:58 PM
Oct 2016

When men complained.

In the case of the OP, as noted in another post, these weren't even assigned seats and the woman had already made an amicable arrangement to change her seat with someone else.


 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
11. Not to defend the airline as either way they would be wrong
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 05:43 PM
Oct 2016

But is this possibly a case of religious bias rather than gender?

Plenty of Muslim men (or those who look like they might be Muslim) have been taken off a plane for stupid reasons like the mathematician kicked off for doing math.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
17. It rings false.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 06:58 PM
Oct 2016

If she'd quietly worked out a seat change with somebody else I suspect there'd have been no problem. But the way she put it makes it sound like the decision to boot her was made prior to the compromise.

Now, I've never known a flight attendant to make this kind of decision prior to some problem. Either the passenger is loud and confrontational, is abusive, or is holding up things (like departure) when permission to leave has been granted and everybody's just waiting for him (or her).

Did anything like this happen?

Dunno.

Would the woman have reported this had it happened?

Hardly likely.

In other words, this is one of those, "I'm arrested for not signaling," only to find that the non-signaller cut off somebody, almost produced a crash, and when a cop tried to pull him over decided to do 60 in a 30-mph zone in order to avoid possible arrest. Yet it's still, "arrested for not signalling."

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
19. I suspect there was a lot more to the story
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:10 PM
Oct 2016

There's no assigned seating with Southwest. You sit wherever you want. Nobody would have cared if she arranged to switch seats with someone.

Skittles

(153,142 posts)
20. Southwest does not have assigned seating
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:43 PM
Oct 2016

people switch seats all the time

not sure what the real story is here but like most, some details seem to be missing

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