The GOP Plans To Do As Much Damage As A Trump Presidency Would Do.

[TheMastersNemesis]

If you look at what Ryan wants to do, his budget would devastate this country. And he would unleash a category 5 economic hurricane on the country. And the GOP is fully supportive of just about ending all domestic programs. You would have to say good by to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and health care as we know it. Even as flawed as Obamacare is it would be gone as well.

Ryan really is a neo Nazi racist if you really look at him. He is just as much of a bigot. He is just as dangerous as Trump as are many of his GOP colleagues.

[Trust Buster]

1. The only difference between Trump and the Republican Party is that Trump has no filter.

Trump understands what the base wants to hear and only cares about his own self promotion and not conviction. So he talks without a filter.

[PatSeg]

21. The rest of the Republicans

are just better actors than Trump. Most of them are capable of appearing sane and normal in public, but many of their policies are very extreme. If you watch Mike Pence in the debate without the sound, he looks so moderate and reasonable, "what a nice guy". Pence's policies as governor of Indiana are just about extreme as they come.

[tonyt53]

2. The GOP knows damn well that this is their last chance. If they fail, their grand plans all fail.

Ryan is nothing but a water boy for people like the Koch's. For him to stand with Trump shows a clear lack of balls on his part. it also shows that his opinions align with those of Trump.

This election really is about whether this country survives as a shining democracy or a shithole run by oligarchs like Putin's Russia. Democrats win the WH and Senate, then the SCOTUS will have a Democrat appointed majority. They GOP will try again in 2018, but with the SCOTUS firmly Democrat appointed, they will struggle. It is over for the GOP.

[Hachetman]

9. Ryan

Agree completely, Ryan is a man without personal ethics.

[calimary]

15. Welcome to DU, Hatchetman!

Yep, Ryan is exactly that. It's hard to believe that any self-proclaimed religious person could EVER stand with a "candidate" like Donald Trump, or even kinda-sorta making sure he's seen in public as, at least, flirting with the idea of doing so. I would ordinarily expect someone who claims to be as much of a person of faith as Ryan claims to be - would find Donald Trump utterly abhorrent.

But then Paul Ryan probably cares most about his own neck, his own gig, and his own power base. Which sure doesn't seem very "Christian" either.

[world wide wally]

3. They have resigned themselves to think that Trump makes the rest of them look good by comparison

[angrychair]

7. That's the scariest possibility yet

In comparison many "seem" better in comparison.

What if that is their play? Even Pence, who is as bad or worse than tRump, "seems" better in some people's mind.

Hopefully tRump craters the whole party before they can play that angle.

[CrispyQ]

4. Trump is the true face of the GOP.

I've read Ryan's budget plan & the entire party is just as nasty & vile as Trump is on the inside. In some ways they are more dangerous because they appear reasonable. Like the first poster said, they have a filter. Trump does not. But they are all on the same policy page. Tax cuts for millionaires & social program cuts for the little people. They are heartless bastards, every one & more & more I have no respect for people I meet who claim to be republican.

[calimary]

17. Truly. Every time they start whining that "this is not who we are," I go straight to

"Sorry, pal. That's EXACTLY who you are. And what you are, too."

[lark]

5. On national issues both are destructive.

It's on foreign policy that drumpf is way more scary than most repugs, he'd sell out the world to russia to line his own pockets.

[vlyons]

6. They are worse than heartless jerks,

The GOP is a vast criminal enterprise, organized to take as much money as possible from public taxes. They want to steal as many Fed agencies and services as possible through privatization. By privatizing the post office, social security, medicare, education, and a host of other depts, they can skim 30%+ right off the top. They are worse than the mob; they are the mob.

[misterhighwasted]

8. Politico tells how Ryan will get around a Dem Senate:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/paul-ryan-budget-congress-229216

Every line of the bill would face scrutiny from Democrats, but a skilled procedural tactician could overcome most parliamentary challenges

Interesting and revealing read.
VOTE STRAIGHT DEM TICKET!!

[BumRushDaShow]

12. "but a skilled procedural tactician"

That would NOT be Lyin' Ryan. He hasn't been in there long enough. He talks a bunch of gibberish that makes his base think he is some kind of genius "policy wonk" but he has no "skill" for anything other than ridiculously-posed photo-ops.

Pelosi knows every friggin' trick in the book (as did Harry Reid in the Senate). And if the Dems end up with Schumer as Senate Majority Leader (in the hope we can take back that chamber), then Schumer knows alot of tricks as well.

[misterhighwasted]

16. Republicans would use Budget Reconciliation to bypass Democrats entirely."

Speaker Paul Ryan is bluntly promising to ram a partisan agenda through Capitol Hill next year, with Obamacare repeal and trillion-dollar tax cuts likely at the top of the list. And Democrats would be utterly defenseless to stop them.
Typically, party leaders offer at least the pretense of seeking bipartisanship when discussing their policy plans. But Ryan is saying frankly that Republicans would use budget reconciliation to bypass Democrats entirely.

Same way the Dems got Obamacare passed.
Ryan's Repubs learned it from the most skilled procedural tactician.. President Obama.
MORE AT LINK

[BumRushDaShow]

24. "Republicans would use budget reconciliation to bypass Democrats entirely."

If Democrats control the White House and/or the Senate, it ain't happening.

And as to this -

Ryan's Repubs learned it from the most skilled procedural tactician.. President Obama.

That is because Democrats controlled both Congressional chambers and the White House. I'm afraid bills do not become law by themselves or just because Lyin' Ryan says so. This is why he is about as "unskilled" a "tactician" as they come.

It's a shame that during the ACA debate here on DU in 2009 - 2010, I had to keep posting this -

The only difference about reconciliation vs other types of bills is that the Senate 60-vote rule is essentially unnecessary and it would just require a majority vote. But if a Democrat is in the White House and vetoes it, it is dead because they wouldn't have enough in the Senate to override. And if the Democrats manage to take back over the Senate (even if by 1 vote), anything looking like what is described would be DOA (and would never even make it to the President's desk). You'll notice that during the 8 years, Obama only had to veto a couple bills and just had his very first override last week. Much of the rest of the garbage out of the GOP never made it that far.

The hyperbolic article from the idiots at Politico is a pile of bullshit.

[klook]

10. Republicans are Libertarians plus social repression

Gary Johnson would privatize everything but let you get stoned. So if you smoke enough dope you won't care.

[yuiyoshida]

11. "MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN!"

[C Moon]

13. They know Hillary will take the White House...

so their going to play the same games they did with President Obama to screw things up in preparation for the 2020 election.

[Blue Idaho]

20. ^^^This^^^

Unless the Republicans take the beating of a lifetime. If Sec. Clinton's coat tails are long and strong we could see republican losses down into the state level. If that happens the Republican Party may gut itself trying to figure out how to appeal to the changing face of America. It may just be that appealing to old white men will no longer win any election.

[phylny]

26. I think Hillary won't be quite as polite as President Obama has been.

He had to really watch his every word and deed. Part of that may be his personality and who he is, but part of it may also have been that as the first African American president, he had two strikes (maybe three) against him at the start in the small, closed minds of some of the deplorables. The hatred for him was and is irrational.

Hillary has already had enough mud thrown at her to fill the Mississippi River. I think she won't take their disrespect and obstruction with quite as much grace - and I'll be behind her all the way.

[Blue Idaho]

27. Excellent points! I Agree! nt.

[C Moon]

33. You're right, there.

[workinclasszero]

14. This is what the GOP has in store for America

And the GOP is fully supportive of just about ending all domestic programs. You would have to say good by to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and health care as we know it

The info is out there so how can poor to middle class workers be Trump republican voters?

If he is elected Trump and his damned party will DEVASTATE these people and their families!

Its insane what hate does to a person.

[BBbats]

31. "But,It's not supposed to mean me!"

That's how poor and some middle class workers think.
I've posted before on this and believe me Hillary is not gonna be an easy shoo in. Trump has a damn good chance of winning this.

As I've posted before I live in a suburb of Philadelphia,Pa. The people are great. Really nice hard working people. Everyone I talk to hates Hillary Clinton. They think Trump "tells it like it is". These are waitresses,construction workers,postal workers,health care,etc.
I even know many Black people who are going for Trump. How the Hell can you be Black and vote Trump!

Now the small town I live in is right next to a town that has a big Mexican population.(They improved the town). Many working people believe all the BS about Mexicans coming into the US and are "given everything". Hell,some of the small business owners who think this way hire Mexicans! It's mind blowing. I can't understand it. They are even amused by Trump's misogyny! And not just the Men either!

I have been canvassing for Clinton and all the Democrats. I bring magazine and newspaper articles that proves what the GOP agenda really is. I've made very few converts. This isn't a hard core Republican town. Nobody has Trump signs anywhere (or Clinton) but I'd bet most of these people will be voting Trump. They don't think that their Medicaid,Social Security,Snap,Medicare pensions,health care,etc.will be affected. Then when the shit hits the fan they aren't going to believe it.

This is no time to be cocky about our side winning! This is the scariest shit I've seen since I started voting in 1971!

[workinclasszero]

32. "They don't think..."

That about covers it I guess.

Look its plain to me that the only reason a working class person would vote republican is because of hatred of other races, religions and gender as well this year. Oh and fear that Hillary will take all their precious gunz!

The dumb bastards will do it even if it kills them! And it will!

If enough intelligent and sane democrats don't vote this year we will all be screwed not just the brain dead haters.

[Stonepounder]

18. That's why I wanted Trump as the GOP nominee.

Given the mood of the country and they way the alt-right was getting the tea-billies fired up, I was afraid that if someone like Ryan got the nomination we could end up with t GOP Congress, President, and SCOTUS. And that, my friends, would be the end of the USA as we know it. Because they would do to the nation what various tea-party Governors have done to some states. They are so convinced that their ideas work and will work wonderfully if they could just get them spread widely enough.

And I, for one, don't really want Daniel Webster coming back out of his grave.

It's a story they tell in the border country, where Massachusetts joins Vermont and New Hampshire.

Yes, Dan'l Webster's dead — or, at least, they buried him. But every time there's a thunderstorm around Marshfield, they say you can hear his rolling voice in the hollows of the sky. And they say that if you go to his grave and speak loud and clear, "Dan'l Webster — Dan'l Webster!" the ground'll begin to shiver and the trees begin to shake. And after a while you'll hear a deep voice saying, "Neighbor, how stands the Union?" Then you better answer the Union stands as she stood, rock-bottomed and copper-sheathed, one and indivisible, or he's liable to rear right out of the ground. At least, that's what I was told when I was a youngster.

Stephen Vincent Benét, in The Devil and Daniel Webster (1937).

[Still In Wisconsin]

19. GOP = Trump...the only difference is that Trump says out loud what they all think/ say in private

I haven't heard Trump say anything that would be out of character for any of my supposedly "mainstream" Republican in-laws to say at the annual family reunion picnic.

[kentuck]

22. Most Trump supporters seem to have forgotten...

that the reason they are voting for Trump is because they are so angry at the Republican Party establishment.

[wiggs]

23. YES. And Hillary has been easy on the GOP in order to pull many over to vote for

her in bid for WH. But surrogates and Kaine need to talk more about the GOP record or horrible statements and horrible policies in order to not only gain the WH but at least get the senate.

This is NOT just a binary election between presidential candidates...it's an election about two very different approaches to governing, policy, justice, progress, and morality.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

25. In the 70s there was talk from the racists of rounding up all non-whites....

From there they would round up anyone who had a problem with rounding up all the non-whites.

Then they would go after the non-Christians.

Then they would go after the Christians that didn't obey their version of Christianity where you hate the poor.

Then they would try to spread their white utopia to the rest of the world, using nukes,....hallelujah.

The ultimate DREAM they envisioned was a disease that only killed non-whites.

This was why in the 80s they were happy to see aids. They honestly believed it was a gift from God that would only kill the sinful.

[dvan]

28. Let's be honest...

If you're a white southerner, (and probably a lot of northerners, too, I suppose) then you don't just hear what trump says (around the picnic table...), you hear a lot worse.
Not unusual to hear someone drop an n bomb at some point during a get together.

[DonCoquixote]

29. The silver lining of Trump

is that he is too dumb not to say what the GOP keeps hidden, their real desire to burn, rape and kill us. I have much more fear of Pence taking over after Don gets a "heart attack", the sort that certain "contracted" employees can mix up the way a bartender mixes a jack and Coke. Why do I fear pence more, because Pence know how to wrap vile ideas in the Bible, which means the churches will help him hide everything.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

30. IOW

if you don't like what Trump would sign as POTUS, don't vote for him AND the Republican Congress that will deliver it to him on a gold platter.