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from Daily Beast:
Podesta: Trump Team Knew Details of Russian Email Hacks Before Release
John Podesta, campaign chairman for Hillary Clinton, claimed late Tuesday that Donald Trumps campaign appeared to know details of the WikiLeaks hack on the Democratic nominees team long before it was released. Podesta said the FBI is investigating a criminal hack of his email account and considers the WikiLeaks release part of a larger agency investigation into Russian cyberattacks on members of the U.S. government. Ive been involved in politics for nearly five decades, and this definitely is the first campaign that Ive been involved with in which Ive had to tangle with Russian intelligence agencies, who seem to be doing everything they can on behalf of our opponent, Podesta said. Russian interference in this election and apparently on behalf of Trump is, I think, of the utmost concern to all Americans, whether youre a Democrat or independent or Republican. Podesta pointed to various remarks made months ago by Roger Stone, a former adviser to the campaign, that the Republican operative had been in contact with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Around the same time, Stone pointed his finger at me, and said that I could expect some treatment that would expose me, Podesta said. So I think its a reasonable assumption toor at least a reasonable conclusionthat Mr. Stone had advanced warning and the Trump campaign had advanced warning about what Assange was going to do.
read: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/10/12/podesta-trump-was-told-about-the-hacks.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl
Jesse Lehrich @JesseLehrich 22h22 hours ago
Trump pushes disinformation same way Russia does. When it comes to these Russian hacks, the confluence is striking.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/world/europe/russia-sweden-disinformation.html
Jesse Lehrich @JesseLehrich 23h23 hours ago
Trump "loves wikileaks" which he KNOWS to be the work of Russian hackers. Meanwhile, denies existence of hacks...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/10/donald-trump-doesnt-know-if-russia-did-the-hacking-assuming-anyone-was-even-hacked/
UniteWomen Florida @UniteWomenFL 1m1 minute ago
Trump recited false information at a rally from a Russian disinformation op as fact. How did Trump get it? https://t.co/u84vqSdmbO
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Although corporate news can not actual confirm the truthfulness of the e-mails, they are STILL reporting portions of it. UGH
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)Contributions do.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)yardwork
(61,588 posts)kentuck
(111,076 posts)This is an extension of Watergate-type crimes against one of our political Parties. The Justice Department seems to be asleep at the wheel?
from the NYT:
...the Obama administration on Friday formally accused Russia of stealing and disclosing emails from the Democratic National Committee and other institutions.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,410 posts)in the hacked email, Blumenthal quoted Eichenwalds Newsweek article but the Russian agency distorted the information to make it appear as if the words were Blumenthals in attempt to link it to Hillary. Trump quoted this exact misinformation at his rally.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,410 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)Thanks.
Brother Buzz
(36,410 posts)Updated | I am Sidney Blumenthal. At least, that is what Vladimir Putinand, somehow, Donald Trumpseem to believe. And that should raise concerns not only about Moscows attempts to manipulate this election but also about how Trump came to push Russian disinformation to American voters.
An email from Blumenthala confidant of Hillary Clinton and a man, second only to George Soros, at the center of conservative conspiracy theoriesturned up in the recent document dump by WikiLeaks. At a time when American intelligence believes Russian hackers are trying to interfere with the presidential election, records have recently been fed to WikiLeaks out of multiple organizations of the Democratic Party. But now that I have been brought into the whole messand transformed into Blumenthalthere is even more proof that the Russians are not only orchestrating this act of cyberwar but also really, really dumb.
The latest emerged thanks to the incompetence of Sputnikthe Russian online news and radio service established by the government-controlled news agency Rossiya Segodnyawhich took words written by me and attributed them to Blumenthal.
The documents that WikiLeaks has unloaded recently have been emails out of the account of John Podesta, the chairman of Clintons election campaign. Almost as soon as the pilfered documents emerged, Sputnik was all over them and rapidly found (or probably already knew about before the WikiLeaks dump) a purportedly incriminating email from Blumenthal.
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http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635
Wilms
(26,795 posts)How does he know who did what?
duncang
(1,907 posts)The person who originally wrote the blurb which was some how placed in the email and credited to Sidney Blumenthal.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)duncang
(1,907 posts)Russian Cyrillic was found in at least one of the documents indicating it had been modified. Total modified until the Clinton campaign goes through all of them with a fine tooth comb hard to say. Even changing, deleting, or adding a single word could make a big difference in what the document conveys. There were also some date discrepancies in the files.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)duncang
(1,907 posts)It was just a small blurb toward the end of a very long article. IIRC it had a reference to some statue in the article.
Edit to add: I'm pretty sure the article was a link from here.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)MFM008
(19,803 posts)Do you want to bet the farm of what comes out of Assange/Trump/Putin???
Wilms
(26,795 posts)I'm just trying to make sure I understand the facts, if not the spin.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Chain of custody.
These hacks would not see the light of day in a courtroom.
yardwork
(61,588 posts)bigtree
(85,986 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Reporters should ask this every chance they get. At the least Donald would have to comment on it and you know he would muck it up, whether or not he actually did know anything.
haele
(12,646 posts)He hires people to do the thinking.
Great people. The smartest people.
He doesn't know what happened, and heck, if you thought he did say something a week or month ago, he didn't say it. It was the other Donald.
If I took his words at face value, I'd think whomever his kids hired to take care of him change out the master processer every Friday, and wipe his cache along with any cookies or browsing history.
Haele
chillfactor
(7,573 posts)that t'rump KNEW the hacks were made by the RUSSIANS! He is such an asshat!
INdemo
(6,994 posts)hacked emails..In a court of law illegally obtained evidence is not admissible, so how can it be legal for the "hacked" emails to be shown on these corporate braodcasts?
True MSNBC and other networks of course are not the court room but how can they broadcast illegally obtained information...and much of it is probably modified by the hackers.
If the information that was obtained through these illegally obtained emails I would think the Clinton campaign could easily get a court order to stop the broadcasts of this info.