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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:07 AM Oct 2016

Clinton Camp Says Trump Team Knew Details of Russian Email Hacks Before Release

from Daily Beast:

Podesta: Trump Team Knew Details of Russian Email Hacks Before Release

John Podesta, campaign chairman for Hillary Clinton, claimed late Tuesday that Donald Trump’s campaign appeared to know details of the WikiLeaks hack on the Democratic nominee’s team long before it was released. Podesta said the FBI is investigating a “criminal hack” of his email account and considers the WikiLeaks release part of a larger agency investigation into Russian cyberattacks on members of the U.S. government. “I’ve been involved in politics for nearly five decades, and this definitely is the first campaign that I’ve been involved with in which I’ve had to tangle with Russian intelligence agencies, who seem to be doing everything they can on behalf of our opponent,” Podesta said. “Russian interference in this election and apparently on behalf of Trump is, I think, of the utmost concern to all Americans, whether you’re a Democrat or independent or Republican.” Podesta pointed to various remarks made months ago by Roger Stone, a former adviser to the campaign, that the Republican operative had been in contact with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. “Around the same time, Stone pointed his finger at me, and said that I could expect some treatment that would expose me,” Podesta said. “So I think it’s a reasonable assumption to—or at least a reasonable conclusion—that Mr. Stone had advanced warning and the Trump campaign had advanced warning about what Assange was going to do.”


read: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/10/12/podesta-trump-was-told-about-the-hacks.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

Jesse Lehrich ‏@JesseLehrich 22h22 hours ago
Trump pushes disinformation same way Russia does. When it comes to these Russian hacks, the confluence is striking.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/world/europe/russia-sweden-disinformation.html

Jesse Lehrich ‏@JesseLehrich 23h23 hours ago
Trump "loves wikileaks" – which he KNOWS to be the work of Russian hackers. Meanwhile, denies existence of hacks...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/10/donald-trump-doesnt-know-if-russia-did-the-hacking-assuming-anyone-was-even-hacked/

UniteWomen Florida ‏@UniteWomenFL 1m1 minute ago
Trump recited false information at a rally from a Russian disinformation op as fact. How did Trump get it? https://t.co/u84vqSdmbO
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Clinton Camp Says Trump Team Knew Details of Russian Email Hacks Before Release (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2016 OP
T-rump campaign knew . . . Iliyah Oct 2016 #1
I think Trump paid then to do it. Wealthy money has no obligation to anyone. Jim Beard Oct 2016 #2
Well, I hope they got all their money up front. bluedigger Oct 2016 #6
LOL Good one. Jim Beard Oct 2016 #17
Trump pays for nothing. Putin is paying Trump to run. yardwork Oct 2016 #11
This is a big story ! kentuck Oct 2016 #3
here bigtree Oct 2016 #4
So the email are real?? Wilms Oct 2016 #5
The email was hacked....BUT.... Brother Buzz Oct 2016 #7
Do you have a link for that? n/t Wilms Oct 2016 #13
It's linked in the OP Brother Buzz Oct 2016 #15
OK. An allegation from a KOs writer. Wilms Oct 2016 #18
An allegation from Newsweek, too Brother Buzz Oct 2016 #19
He's making numerous claims and not backing them up. Wilms Oct 2016 #24
The allegation was from Kurt Eichenwald duncang Oct 2016 #21
"...somehow placed..." Wilms Oct 2016 #25
What brother buzz said plus duncang Oct 2016 #9
Do you have a link for that? n/t Wilms Oct 2016 #14
Tried finding it again but couldn't duncang Oct 2016 #20
OK. Thx. n/t Wilms Oct 2016 #23
Doesnt mean they werent altered MFM008 Oct 2016 #27
Good grief! I don't want to bet the farm on anyone. Wilms Oct 2016 #29
Three words... ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2016 #8
Shame on the media for reporting them as fact. yardwork Oct 2016 #12
kick bigtree Oct 2016 #10
What did Donald Trump know and when did he know it? yellowcanine Oct 2016 #16
Donald Trump only knows what his "experts" tell him before an event. haele Oct 2016 #22
it has also been reported on TV... chillfactor Oct 2016 #26
How is it that the corporate media is allowed to even talk about these INdemo Oct 2016 #28

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. T-rump campaign knew . . .
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:19 AM
Oct 2016

Although corporate news can not actual confirm the truthfulness of the e-mails, they are STILL reporting portions of it. UGH

kentuck

(111,076 posts)
3. This is a big story !
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:32 AM
Oct 2016

This is an extension of Watergate-type crimes against one of our political Parties. The Justice Department seems to be asleep at the wheel?

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
4. here
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:46 AM
Oct 2016

from the NYT:

...the Obama administration on Friday formally accused Russia of stealing and disclosing emails from the Democratic National Committee and other institutions.

Brother Buzz

(36,410 posts)
7. The email was hacked....BUT....
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:13 PM
Oct 2016

in the hacked email, Blumenthal quoted Eichenwald’s Newsweek article but the Russian agency distorted the information to make it appear as if the words were Blumenthal’s in attempt to link it to Hillary. Trump quoted this exact misinformation at his rally.

Brother Buzz

(36,410 posts)
19. An allegation from Newsweek, too
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 04:50 PM
Oct 2016
DEAR DONALD TRUMP AND VLADIMIR PUTIN, I AM NOT SIDNEY BLUMENTHAL


Updated | I am Sidney Blumenthal. At least, that is what Vladimir Putin—and, somehow, Donald Trump—seem to believe. And that should raise concerns not only about Moscow’s attempts to manipulate this election but also about how Trump came to push Russian disinformation to American voters.

An email from Blumenthal—a confidant of Hillary Clinton and a man, second only to George Soros, at the center of conservative conspiracy theories—turned up in the recent document dump by WikiLeaks. At a time when American intelligence believes Russian hackers are trying to interfere with the presidential election, records have recently been fed to WikiLeaks out of multiple organizations of the Democratic Party. But now that I have been brought into the whole mess—and transformed into Blumenthal—there is even more proof that the Russians are not only orchestrating this act of cyberwar but also really, really dumb.

The latest emerged thanks to the incompetence of Sputnik—the Russian online news and radio service established by the government-controlled news agency Rossiya Segodnya—which took words written by me and attributed them to Blumenthal.

The documents that WikiLeaks has unloaded recently have been emails out of the account of John Podesta, the chairman of Clinton’s election campaign. Almost as soon as the pilfered documents emerged, Sputnik was all over them and rapidly found (or probably already knew about before the WikiLeaks dump) a purportedly incriminating email from Blumenthal.


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http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

duncang

(1,907 posts)
21. The allegation was from Kurt Eichenwald
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 05:07 PM
Oct 2016

The person who originally wrote the blurb which was some how placed in the email and credited to Sidney Blumenthal.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
9. What brother buzz said plus
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:35 PM
Oct 2016

Russian Cyrillic was found in at least one of the documents indicating it had been modified. Total modified until the Clinton campaign goes through all of them with a fine tooth comb hard to say. Even changing, deleting, or adding a single word could make a big difference in what the document conveys. There were also some date discrepancies in the files.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
20. Tried finding it again but couldn't
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 05:03 PM
Oct 2016

It was just a small blurb toward the end of a very long article. IIRC it had a reference to some statue in the article.


Edit to add: I'm pretty sure the article was a link from here.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
27. Doesnt mean they werent altered
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 05:43 PM
Oct 2016

Do you want to bet the farm of what comes out of Assange/Trump/Putin???

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
29. Good grief! I don't want to bet the farm on anyone.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 05:57 PM
Oct 2016

I'm just trying to make sure I understand the facts, if not the spin.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
16. What did Donald Trump know and when did he know it?
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 04:24 PM
Oct 2016

Reporters should ask this every chance they get. At the least Donald would have to comment on it and you know he would muck it up, whether or not he actually did know anything.

haele

(12,646 posts)
22. Donald Trump only knows what his "experts" tell him before an event.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 05:11 PM
Oct 2016

He hires people to do the thinking.
Great people. The smartest people.
He doesn't know what happened, and heck, if you thought he did say something a week or month ago, he didn't say it. It was the other Donald.

If I took his words at face value, I'd think whomever his kids hired to take care of him change out the master processer every Friday, and wipe his cache along with any cookies or browsing history.

Haele

chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
26. it has also been reported on TV...
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 05:42 PM
Oct 2016

that t'rump KNEW the hacks were made by the RUSSIANS! He is such an asshat!

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
28. How is it that the corporate media is allowed to even talk about these
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 05:56 PM
Oct 2016

hacked emails..In a court of law illegally obtained evidence is not admissible, so how can it be legal for the "hacked" emails to be shown on these corporate braodcasts?
True MSNBC and other networks of course are not the court room but how can they broadcast illegally obtained information...and much of it is probably modified by the hackers.
If the information that was obtained through these illegally obtained emails I would think the Clinton campaign could easily get a court order to stop the broadcasts of this info.

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