What if Ivanka was not "pretty" or " attractive"?

[SummerSnow]

For some years now Trump has always made comments about how hot his daughter is. Commenting on her body etc. What if Ivanka was not "pretty" or "attractive"? What if she was overweight, maybe just slightly in his opinion? Would she get all this praise from him?
Would she be in the forefront of his campaign? Would she had even been on the Apprentice? Would she had given that speech at the RNC? Just a thought.

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. He doesn't say much about Tiffany. Frankly, I think he thinks his kids are hot because they look

like him!

[csziggy]

3. Trump probably would have sent her to plastic surgeon to create the daughter he wanted

Frankly every one of the "Trump" women look very plastic to me. Maybe they haven't had surgery, maybe it's just the pounds of makeup they all wear but they look fake.

If a child of his was not up to his standards, Trump would probably hide them and make sure they were never mentioned. Something like Prince John that the British Royals kept hidden:

[JenniferJuniper]

11. Prince John had epilepsy and possible autism...

not to speculate wildly about a 10 year old, but some people are saying the young Trump baron may be on the spectrum.

[csziggy]

17. The program I linked said he was probably not as ill with those problems as originally thought

They had a woman who played with him when they were both children. She was the daughter of a workman in the area of the country estate where John was exiled. The program had speculation that the royal family did not want people in their circle knowing of John's problems.

The woman said John was a funny, engaging child. He may have had epilepsy in a time when there were no drugs to help control the seizures but otherwise he was reasonably healthy. He probably was closer to the mild Asperger's end of the autism spectrum than full blown detached from human contact type.

The royal family hid him because he was not what they expected from a royal heir. As a non-perfect specimen he was embarrassing to them. That was the same point about any Trump daughter that might not be attractive enough for her father to consider her a "10" - she would either be "fixed" or she would be hidden away.

Trump himself is probably on the autism spectrum aside from his narcissistic tendencies. He's terrible at interpersonal contact, fairly knowledgeable about restricted areas of interests and completely ignorant about things that don't catch his attention. I haven't read much about his youngest son, only enough to know he exists.

[JenniferJuniper]

18. John's story has been out there for awhile

I think much of it came out from the Duke of Windsor's letters which displayed an appalling lack of sensitivity to the the little boy. I don't think his parents were quite as cold towards him, apart from the fact that they were cold British royals to begin with.

He was seen in public as a small boy, but his epilepsy worsened as he moved toward adolescence. I am not condoning George and Mary, but I can understand the family at that time and at their station not wanting the public seeing his seizures.

His life was too short, but young John probably had the happiest life of all their kids.

I don't think Trump has autism (Barron might though) but many, many people are saying he has a host of personality disorders. I'm hearing this all over the place.

[B2G]

19. Would you stop with the 'Baron might have autism' bullshit please?

It's pretty disgusting to put wild, unfounded shit out there about a child. His father is fair game. He is not.

Thanks in advance.

[JenniferJuniper]

20. No.

[B2G]

21. Then you're no better than they are. nt

[JenniferJuniper]

22. Yeah, I am but

I also understand the meaning of "false equivalency".

[B2G]

23. I've made it clear how I feel.

I see not reason to discuss this with you any further.

[JenniferJuniper]

24. Good. Go cry for the Trumps elsewhere.

[csziggy]

25. John was kept out of the public view because he didn't match the ideals of the royal family

I'm saying that any daughter of Donald Trump's that is not up to his limited standards (beauty only) would be kept out of the public view.

[Sanity Claws]

4. Plastic surgery

She would have consented to it in order to get daddy's approval.
Tiffany did not have a relationship with Trump while growing up and did not succumb to that pressure.

BTW, the word is that Ivanka did have plastic surgery and looks plastic in person. Also, her hair is very thin and that she uses extensions. I heard this from folks who live on the Upper East Side, one of whom used to get hair done at the same place as Ivanka.

[tblue37]

27. Ivanka has had surgery--including fake breasts. nt

[whathehell]

28. I think your assumption about Tiffany needing "daddy's approval" is likely incorrect..

Maybe you didn't see her smilng, but firm rejection of his kiss at the end of the last debate..I believe she is actually not very dependent on his approval.

[Sanity Claws]

35. Yes. That's why I said that she was able to resist being forced to have plastic surgery.

She didn't have a relationship with him and was not seeking his approval.

[whathehell]

36. So you were referencing Ivanka?

[Sanity Claws]

37. Yes

Ivanka had plastic surgery. She also changed her hair through extensions.
Some posters below in this thread posted Ivanka's before and after plastic surgery pictures. She looked more like her mother in the before photo.

Tiffany is an attractive-enough girl but not good enough for the Donald apparently.

[Little Star]

5. No & her name would then be Tiffany Trump.

[milestogo]

6. Straightaway to the Plastic Surgeon and fat camp.

The thing is - since he always mates with very beautiful women - its unlikely they would produce an ugly child,

[Maru Kitteh]

13. Ivanka was never ugly, but he did march her off to the plastic surgeon

nose job
buccal fat removal
chin implant

and then there's this

[milestogo]

15. she looked too much like him

[Foggyhill]

26. Massive chinjob + jaw line that's the biggest difference

Jaw op, accounts for lip difference
Maybe cheek op, seems very different

Got nothing against the op if she didn't do it for her father

[milestogo]

7. If he had a special needs child the world would never know about it.

[sarae]

9. Yep...

shallow dickhead that he is.

[sarae]

8. I don't think he would shine such a spotlight on Ivanka

if not for the fact that she looks like a model. I've noticed that he never mentions or spotlights his other daughter, who doesn't fit the supermodel beauty standard as well, although she's still a conventionally "pretty" blonde.

If he had a daughter who was actually overweight, he'd probably make her life a living hell until she lost weight. I think he sees the women in his life only in terms of how they reflect his image. I'm sure he thinks his wife has to be faithful, subservient, and always put together in appearance (a perfect trophy wife). His daughters are probably allowed to be more outspoken and intelligent – but only because those are his genes on display.

[Retrograde]

10. Is she? It's hard to tell

under all that makeup and botox. Same with Melania - they two of them are so primped and painted they look like big plastic dolls. Tiffany (judging by my one view of her at the GOP convention) is still young enough that she hasn't had any obvious plastic surgery - she looked like a nice, normal human being.

[whathehell]

32. She's a little young for botox, actually

especially at the age of that "before" picture..Women rarely start going that until they're middle-aged.

[Maru Kitteh]

14. She wasn't pretty enough for his taste or "brand" - so she had a bunch of plastic surgery.

and on her face

nose job
buccal fat removal
chin implant




She looks like she was a normal, pretty girl - but Donny likes cartoon boobs and that placticine look.

[Initech]

31. Trump wishes he could be the husband in that movie "The Stepford Wives".

Though I am guessing that he's probably never read the book or seen the movie.

[ck4829]

16. "Ivanka who?" That's what Donny would say.

[Initech]

29. I wonder how many times he's "accidentally" walked in on her without clothes on.

Donald Trump is a class A pervert and needs to be jailed for it.

[Doreen]

30. from my suspicions.

I suspect that there was sexual abuse between Trump and Ivanka. Maybe not being in his own sick mind pretty enough Tiffany was spared sexual abuse. I could be wrong but there is just to many things said and seen to say otherwise. I would never leave a girl alone with him.

[Warpy]

33. Overweight? He'd send her to a fat farm (and probably has)

Big nose? Rhinoplasty! Bad teeth? Orthodontics! Small tits? Implants!

She's a direct reflection of him, you see, and can't possibly be left in some unattractive state, even if she is only a brainless female.

[B2G]

34. This whole thread makes me a little nauseous.

The pukes comments about Chelsea and her supposed plastic surgery have always revolted me.

I don't see how this is any different.

[Foggyhill]

38. There is nothing wrong with plastic surgery

If it's not in response to you father's rampant sexism
Got a nose job myself