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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsImpeachment Hearings Will Begin Right After Inauguration.
There will be no honeymoon after the election. The GOP is signalling that Hillary's presidency will be dead on arrival the first day. they will consider no bills and confirm no judges. They probably will freeze all federal judge appointments for the duration of the Hillary presidency.
blm
(113,010 posts)Every blue state DUer who can do this needs to do it ASAP!
still_one
(92,061 posts)the session begins, they can waste all the time they want, as the President, and the Senate appoint and Confirm the SC nominees
ILFightinDem
(56 posts)So HRC will have the 'stain' of impeachment like Bill did, but also not be in danger of being removed from office, just as Bill wasn't.
If you think people are pissed off at the GOP and Trump now... LET THEM TRY and impeach Hillary. We'll flip the House in 2018, being only about 10 seats away after this election.
Now if she limps in, and the 'Pugs retain the Senate... she's going to be toast. Katy bar the door. The people (us) will still be pissed - but the GOP won't be able to resist a certain 'conviction'. They'll gladly put Kaine in - and then impeach him, too, all before 2018.
Hello "president" Ryan (or some other wingnut who can put a coalition together).
still_one
(92,061 posts)heads explode
ILFightinDem
(56 posts)"Too limiting", I believe was the response he gave. Makes sense, too - while it seems 'obvious' that a former constitutional law professor would be a perfect fit...and it's something I originally envisioned / hoped for as well... he can effect more change as a former (popular) President. Having held the office, it affords him unique advocacy opportunities - and he's on record saying he wants to help end gerrymandering - which would be a *great* help for the 'true majority'
In USSC, he's 'one of nine' - you'll be hearing from him every June, and then back to the ivory tower for another year.
If he wanted it, you know Hill would appoint him - probably to replace Garland's nomination, as it expires the minute she takes the oath of office. And he'd ride a wave of popularity at the outset - it would be hard for the Pukes to stand against him. If we take the Senate, and manage to kill judicial filibusters, they couldn't stop it at all.
But after considering the two scenarios... I now think he (and we) are better off with him *not* on USSC.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)hedda_foil
(16,371 posts)When that would require McTurtle to whip it in the current session. I don't think that's about to happen.
Grey Lemercier
(1,429 posts)coming down the pike in 2018
LuvNewcastle
(16,834 posts)The GOP is already on life support, and so are a lot of their constituents. In fact, I think this is going to be a watershed election, like 1980 for Republicans. Won't be surprised to see a few Republicans defect like some Democrats did in the 1980s. It happens when a party goes so far from mainstream thought. I saw 1980 happen as a kid, and I was heartbroken. Glad I've lived long enough to see the pendulum swing back. Only thing that bothers me is that a lot of the people who are going to feel left out are heavily armed and are mental children.
pampango
(24,692 posts)The tea party wing in congress and much of the base will want to do just that. Will the rest of the party rein them in? If not, we will see another 4 years of obstruction and stalemate but it may also lead to the further decline of the republican party.
emulatorloo
(44,063 posts)when's she's only been in office a couple minutes?
Will backfire big time.
ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)Not the good, sleepy and cute kind of infants. The screaming temper tantrum type.
Impeachment is like court martial, it only means they bring charges. The charges can be totally bogus. Then the trial acquits the accused, and they throw another tantrum, and bring charges again. Surprising they haven't tried to cook up some pretext for trying to impeach Obama.
I mean, what kind of people spend all their time voting over and over to repeal ACA, and holding the same useless Benghazi hearings again and again? What kind of twisted spiritual cripples refuse to allow anything to come to a vote unless they know they have a majority on their side? They're doing it for show, to impress their voters back home with their ideological purity, to get donations and primary votes, without the least concern about anything else. Their entire purpose for being there is simply to continue to be there, extracting whatever personal benefits they can from the position.
Not all Republicans are like that, of course. The majority of those in congress seem to be, though. and that's enough.
But if we take back the Senate, that should be enough to stop them for a while.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,392 posts)it sounds like they are (amazingly) through chewing on Benghazi and have moved onto e-mails and the Clinton Foundation, clearly the (new) source of all Clinton evil and corruption in the universe.
BadgerKid
(4,549 posts)N/t.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)Just like it happened to Obama, more's the pity for us all. We need to find a way to get Dems to turn out to vote in midterms in the numbers they do in presidential election years.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)His poll numbers went UP with the impeachment, and ole Newtie had to resign from the House.
ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Make republicans irrevelant....and not able to stop judge approvals...
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)That's the bottom line. Eventually we'll get rid of all the teabaggers and go back to normal.
ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)world wide wally
(21,738 posts)ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)UTUSN
(70,645 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Not that they will not want to. But assuming they keep the house, which is not assured, how can they even pick a speaker?
Their problem gets even worse after Hillary is elected.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)tritsofme
(17,370 posts)Your post is quite strange.
Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)If that happens, their obstructionism will quickly reach its limit as far as appointees are concerned.
denbot
(9,898 posts)First over the e-mails claiming compromised secrecy, then what ever they can ring out of the half dozen or so investigative committees they will cobble together.
Just because it's stupid, doesn't mean they won't try it at least as many time as we the people allow them the opportunity.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Lebam in LA
(1,344 posts)Turn out the way they are hoping. Everyone is sick of congress doing nothing for our country
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)you have to begin from the Constitutional language that allows impeachment only in the cases of treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors.
And implicit in those words is the premise that the President committed these acts of treason, bribery or high crimes while in office. It would be extraordinary to assert this remedy for events that occurred in another office at another time, especially considering that the public had full knowledge of these accusations and still decided to elect her as President.
radical noodle
(7,997 posts)We need to start the narrative now to let people know who is responsible for not getting things done.
applegrove
(118,492 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)kentuck
(111,052 posts)They could see where their problems are located? In the House and in the Senate, under the leadership of Mitch McConnell. If they want to fix our government, get rid of Mitch.
DFW
(54,294 posts)Despite what they may read in their party handbook, they do NOT have a permanent lease on the White House, and Democratic presidents are no more squatters than they are when they live there. G.W. Bush excepted.
Bonn1997
(1,675 posts)And they'll try to stall forever. I'm not sure if they have a majority in the Senate that they'll EVER allow the SC balance to be reversed.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)this would surprise anyone. It's totally predictable.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)they SECRETLY met and decided to obstruct everything he did from the first day, which they thought would keep him from being re-elected.
Stories about that secret dinner came out eventually, and it didn't help them. So maybe they decided to make a public "stand" this time.