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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:05 PM Oct 2016

Impeachment Hearings Will Begin Right After Inauguration.

There will be no honeymoon after the election. The GOP is signalling that Hillary's presidency will be dead on arrival the first day. they will consider no bills and confirm no judges. They probably will freeze all federal judge appointments for the duration of the Hillary presidency.

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Impeachment Hearings Will Begin Right After Inauguration. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Oct 2016 OP
Send donations to NC's Senate race so Dems run the senate. blm Oct 2016 #1
As long as we have the majority in the Senate, and change the filibuster rules for the Senate before still_one Oct 2016 #2
And also 'try' (run) impeachment procedings ILFightinDem Oct 2016 #6
F**Kem. Maybe she will appoint President Obama to the Supreme Court. That would make their tiny still_one Oct 2016 #9
He's indicated that he's not interested in SCOTUS ILFightinDem Oct 2016 #13
They still need a 2/3rd majority for conviction in The Senate. Not a simple majority. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2016 #35
How are they going to change the Senate rules before the next Congress is gaveled in... hedda_foil Oct 2016 #11
you so do NOT want to change the filibuster rules, not with what's Grey Lemercier Oct 2016 #38
I don't think so. LuvNewcastle Oct 2016 #3
It will be interesting. Does the GOP continue with the politics that has brought them Trump? pampango Oct 2016 #37
Day of Inauguration? On what grounds will they impeach her emulatorloo Oct 2016 #4
Oh, the same grounds they used for all their bogus investigations of her so far. They're infants. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #14
+ 1 Achilleaze Oct 2016 #39
From the way things are sounding at the moment Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2016 #16
In that case, 'recall'ing them seems in order. BadgerKid Oct 2016 #36
If they do it, they will be handing us the 2018 midterms on a silver platter. roamer65 Oct 2016 #5
If only. But as you must know, the midterms have a history of going against the incumbent party ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #8
Didn't work with Bill Clinton. duffyduff Oct 2016 #23
Let's hope that if history repeats itself, it picks that pattern to follow. Thanks for reminder. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #42
When democrats win the senate..they can change the filibuster rule and beachbumbob Oct 2016 #7
We need to show up in larger numbers during off year elections. ecstatic Oct 2016 #12
Yes. Exactly. We need GOTV for midterms the same as for presidential years. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #15
Fuck Republicans world wide wally Oct 2016 #17
You go ahead with that, if it turns you on. I'll skip on that one. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #43
R#3 & K for, yip, "investigations" and gridlock and "impeachment" UTUSN Oct 2016 #18
Respectfully...but I call BS GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #19
But will you stop your hysterics right after inauguration? nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2016 #21
We almost certainly get the Senate, and it's possible the House is seriously in play. tritsofme Oct 2016 #22
There's a good chance they will lose the Senate Major Nikon Oct 2016 #25
They will try it right out of the gate. denbot Oct 2016 #26
Because that worked out so well for the Republicans the last time they did that BlueStreak Oct 2016 #27
I don't think it will Lebam in LA Oct 2016 #28
If you believe in the Constitution and the intention of the Founders BlueStreak Oct 2016 #29
They would have done the same thing to any Democrat radical noodle Oct 2016 #30
Sabotage! applegrove Oct 2016 #31
Blanket pardon by Obama. Make them start fresh. Shrike47 Oct 2016 #32
If Republicans had even one brain cell...? kentuck Oct 2016 #33
The Republicans have been slow to grasp a certain fact DFW Oct 2016 #34
And perhaps their line will be no SC Justice hearings until after impeachment hearings are over Bonn1997 Oct 2016 #40
I don't know why LWolf Oct 2016 #41
This is a variation on what they did with Obama, except that time pnwmom Oct 2016 #46
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blm

(113,010 posts)
1. Send donations to NC's Senate race so Dems run the senate.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:11 PM
Oct 2016

Every blue state DUer who can do this needs to do it ASAP!

still_one

(92,061 posts)
2. As long as we have the majority in the Senate, and change the filibuster rules for the Senate before
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:19 PM
Oct 2016

the session begins, they can waste all the time they want, as the President, and the Senate appoint and Confirm the SC nominees



ILFightinDem

(56 posts)
6. And also 'try' (run) impeachment procedings
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:41 PM
Oct 2016

So HRC will have the 'stain' of impeachment like Bill did, but also not be in danger of being removed from office, just as Bill wasn't.

If you think people are pissed off at the GOP and Trump now... LET THEM TRY and impeach Hillary. We'll flip the House in 2018, being only about 10 seats away after this election.

Now if she limps in, and the 'Pugs retain the Senate... she's going to be toast. Katy bar the door. The people (us) will still be pissed - but the GOP won't be able to resist a certain 'conviction'. They'll gladly put Kaine in - and then impeach him, too, all before 2018.

Hello "president" Ryan (or some other wingnut who can put a coalition together).

still_one

(92,061 posts)
9. F**Kem. Maybe she will appoint President Obama to the Supreme Court. That would make their tiny
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:44 PM
Oct 2016

heads explode

ILFightinDem

(56 posts)
13. He's indicated that he's not interested in SCOTUS
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:58 PM
Oct 2016

"Too limiting", I believe was the response he gave. Makes sense, too - while it seems 'obvious' that a former constitutional law professor would be a perfect fit...and it's something I originally envisioned / hoped for as well... he can effect more change as a former (popular) President. Having held the office, it affords him unique advocacy opportunities - and he's on record saying he wants to help end gerrymandering - which would be a *great* help for the 'true majority'

In USSC, he's 'one of nine' - you'll be hearing from him every June, and then back to the ivory tower for another year.

If he wanted it, you know Hill would appoint him - probably to replace Garland's nomination, as it expires the minute she takes the oath of office. And he'd ride a wave of popularity at the outset - it would be hard for the Pukes to stand against him. If we take the Senate, and manage to kill judicial filibusters, they couldn't stop it at all.

But after considering the two scenarios... I now think he (and we) are better off with him *not* on USSC.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
11. How are they going to change the Senate rules before the next Congress is gaveled in...
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:48 PM
Oct 2016

When that would require McTurtle to whip it in the current session. I don't think that's about to happen.

LuvNewcastle

(16,834 posts)
3. I don't think so.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:22 PM
Oct 2016

The GOP is already on life support, and so are a lot of their constituents. In fact, I think this is going to be a watershed election, like 1980 for Republicans. Won't be surprised to see a few Republicans defect like some Democrats did in the 1980s. It happens when a party goes so far from mainstream thought. I saw 1980 happen as a kid, and I was heartbroken. Glad I've lived long enough to see the pendulum swing back. Only thing that bothers me is that a lot of the people who are going to feel left out are heavily armed and are mental children.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
37. It will be interesting. Does the GOP continue with the politics that has brought them Trump?
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 05:48 AM
Oct 2016

The tea party wing in congress and much of the base will want to do just that. Will the rest of the party rein them in? If not, we will see another 4 years of obstruction and stalemate but it may also lead to the further decline of the republican party.

emulatorloo

(44,063 posts)
4. Day of Inauguration? On what grounds will they impeach her
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:36 PM
Oct 2016

when's she's only been in office a couple minutes?

Will backfire big time.

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
14. Oh, the same grounds they used for all their bogus investigations of her so far. They're infants.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:01 PM
Oct 2016

Not the good, sleepy and cute kind of infants. The screaming temper tantrum type.

Impeachment is like court martial, it only means they bring charges. The charges can be totally bogus. Then the trial acquits the accused, and they throw another tantrum, and bring charges again. Surprising they haven't tried to cook up some pretext for trying to impeach Obama.

I mean, what kind of people spend all their time voting over and over to repeal ACA, and holding the same useless Benghazi hearings again and again? What kind of twisted spiritual cripples refuse to allow anything to come to a vote unless they know they have a majority on their side? They're doing it for show, to impress their voters back home with their ideological purity, to get donations and primary votes, without the least concern about anything else. Their entire purpose for being there is simply to continue to be there, extracting whatever personal benefits they can from the position.
Not all Republicans are like that, of course. The majority of those in congress seem to be, though. and that's enough.

But if we take back the Senate, that should be enough to stop them for a while.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,392 posts)
16. From the way things are sounding at the moment
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:11 PM
Oct 2016

it sounds like they are (amazingly) through chewing on Benghazi and have moved onto e-mails and the Clinton Foundation, clearly the (new) source of all Clinton evil and corruption in the universe.

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
8. If only. But as you must know, the midterms have a history of going against the incumbent party
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:44 PM
Oct 2016

Just like it happened to Obama, more's the pity for us all. We need to find a way to get Dems to turn out to vote in midterms in the numbers they do in presidential election years.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
23. Didn't work with Bill Clinton.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 11:25 PM
Oct 2016

His poll numbers went UP with the impeachment, and ole Newtie had to resign from the House.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
7. When democrats win the senate..they can change the filibuster rule and
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:44 PM
Oct 2016

Make republicans irrevelant....and not able to stop judge approvals...

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
12. We need to show up in larger numbers during off year elections.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:55 PM
Oct 2016

That's the bottom line. Eventually we'll get rid of all the teabaggers and go back to normal.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. Respectfully...but I call BS
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:35 PM
Oct 2016

Not that they will not want to. But assuming they keep the house, which is not assured, how can they even pick a speaker?

Their problem gets even worse after Hillary is elected.

tritsofme

(17,370 posts)
22. We almost certainly get the Senate, and it's possible the House is seriously in play.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 11:07 PM
Oct 2016

Your post is quite strange.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
25. There's a good chance they will lose the Senate
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 11:41 PM
Oct 2016

If that happens, their obstructionism will quickly reach its limit as far as appointees are concerned.

denbot

(9,898 posts)
26. They will try it right out of the gate.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 11:43 PM
Oct 2016

First over the e-mails claiming compromised secrecy, then what ever they can ring out of the half dozen or so investigative committees they will cobble together.

Just because it's stupid, doesn't mean they won't try it at least as many time as we the people allow them the opportunity.

Lebam in LA

(1,344 posts)
28. I don't think it will
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 11:51 PM
Oct 2016

Turn out the way they are hoping. Everyone is sick of congress doing nothing for our country

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
29. If you believe in the Constitution and the intention of the Founders
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 11:54 PM
Oct 2016

you have to begin from the Constitutional language that allows impeachment only in the cases of “treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

And implicit in those words is the premise that the President committed these acts of treason, bribery or high crimes while in office. It would be extraordinary to assert this remedy for events that occurred in another office at another time, especially considering that the public had full knowledge of these accusations and still decided to elect her as President.

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
30. They would have done the same thing to any Democrat
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 11:57 PM
Oct 2016

We need to start the narrative now to let people know who is responsible for not getting things done.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
33. If Republicans had even one brain cell...?
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 01:02 AM
Oct 2016

They could see where their problems are located? In the House and in the Senate, under the leadership of Mitch McConnell. If they want to fix our government, get rid of Mitch.

DFW

(54,294 posts)
34. The Republicans have been slow to grasp a certain fact
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 01:41 AM
Oct 2016

Despite what they may read in their party handbook, they do NOT have a permanent lease on the White House, and Democratic presidents are no more squatters than they are when they live there. G.W. Bush excepted.

Bonn1997

(1,675 posts)
40. And perhaps their line will be no SC Justice hearings until after impeachment hearings are over
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:41 AM
Oct 2016

And they'll try to stall forever. I'm not sure if they have a majority in the Senate that they'll EVER allow the SC balance to be reversed.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
46. This is a variation on what they did with Obama, except that time
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 12:32 PM
Oct 2016

they SECRETLY met and decided to obstruct everything he did from the first day, which they thought would keep him from being re-elected.

Stories about that secret dinner came out eventually, and it didn't help them. So maybe they decided to make a public "stand" this time.

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