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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:51 PM Oct 2016

It turns out that our do-nothing Congress knew about the Pentagon taking vets' money for 2 years

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/25/1586704/-It-turns-out-that-our-do-nothing-Congress-knew-about-the-Pentagon-taking-vets-money-for-2-years

Yesterday it was revealed that the Pentagon revisited old signing bonuses given to soldiers in an effort to boost enlistment numbers in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Pentagon found that, while there is no evidence that the soldiers receiving these bonuses did anything wrong, they must produce much of the money because the National Guard may have mishandled the monies they gave out. Not only is the Pentagon demanding repayment on money given to soldiers up to 10 years ago, they are also threatening large financial punishments for those who are unable to produce that money. How does this happen? The LA Times reported late yesterday that our do-nothing Congress, the one made up of so many Republicans who enjoy wearing red and white and blue memorabilia, knew for at least two years about the Pentagon’s methods of retrieving this money.

The California National Guard told the state’s members of Congress two years ago that the Pentagon was trying to claw back reenlistment bonuses from thousands of soldiers, and even offered a proposal to mitigate the problem, but Congress took no action, according to a senior National Guard official.

The official added that improper bonuses had been paid to National Guard members in every state, raising the possibility that many more soldiers may owe large debts to the Pentagon.

The majority of cases are based in California but the fact of the matter is that there are a number of states affected, and every single soldier we send out to protect us is the responsibility of every single congressman and congresswoman Democrat or Republican. Now House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi and others will be asking this useless group of Republican lawmakers to pass a bill as soon as they come back into session—after the election. Republicans will hem and haw about how if Democrats weren’t hellbent on turning our country into a communist Muslim caliphate, the Republican Party may have been able to find a way to do their jobs.


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It turns out that our do-nothing Congress knew about the Pentagon taking vets' money for 2 years (Original Post) KamaAina Oct 2016 OP
K&R Solly Mack Oct 2016 #1
Omigod, those dirty bastards! I read this in the LA Times too. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2016 #2
And a RW doctor I had an appointment recently blames Obama for not doing more for Veterans. Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #3
And Embassy security. Why don't RWers know this? SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2016 #8
Perhaps hoping they can fool us, can you imagine if Obama had left off a war Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #10
The GOP runs a racket. That's all there is to it. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2016 #19
Maybe they can get hired at moondust Oct 2016 #4
And all the ph*ckers could do was keep sending up bills TheDebbieDee Oct 2016 #5
Another discussion with RWers, we know PP provided abortions are funded by Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #11
The Hyde Amendment might as well be Greek TheDebbieDee Oct 2016 #12
It does not serve FOX totellthe truth, this is her exposure. Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #16
This happened to my son! Vivid Lizard Oct 2016 #6
Yikes! KamaAina Oct 2016 #20
Get Haliburton to pick up the tab. They made villions off our military's backs. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2016 #7
I don't get it... Crash2Parties Oct 2016 #9
A Master Sergeant has already been Court-martialed.. TheDebbieDee Oct 2016 #13
Lets get something straight, Some of these NCOs knew better........... Old Vet Oct 2016 #15
Republicans have a long track record of shitting on our veterans Achilleaze Oct 2016 #14
Get Biden on it asap. lindysalsagal Oct 2016 #17
Does the do nothing Pentagon have no accountability here? Peaches999 Oct 2016 #18

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. And a RW doctor I had an appointment recently blames Obama for not doing more for Veterans.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:19 PM
Oct 2016

I explained he needs a bill across his desk before signing it into law, I ask him who was responsible for not sending the bill to Obama, and then explained it has been a Republican Congress. Republicans who refuse to vote for more benefits for our veterans. This is another example.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
5. And all the ph*ckers could do was keep sending up bills
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:27 PM
Oct 2016

repealing Obamacare and de-funding Planned Parenthood...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
11. Another discussion with RWers, we know PP provided abortions are funded by
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 09:07 AM
Oct 2016

Donations but I could never get the RWer to understand, a FOX listener.

Vivid Lizard

(23 posts)
6. This happened to my son!
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 12:28 AM
Oct 2016

My son, who helped guard an international airport right after the attacks, and who then risked his life in Iraq as a Calvary Scout Gunner in a Humvee turret, and who liked the people and children there (even had Thanksgiving dinner with a family!) was told to return his reenlistment money promised to him. You have no idea how angry this makes me! I think he may have already paid it back, but I will fight like hell to have it given back to him if that's the case.

It makes me so sick to even think about...

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,081 posts)
7. Get Haliburton to pick up the tab. They made villions off our military's backs.
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 12:34 AM
Oct 2016

And Blackwater. And on and on. Get the war profiteers in America's face.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
9. I don't get it...
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 12:47 AM
Oct 2016

Let's say a company I work for was being bought out or moving and offered me a retention bonus so long as I worked x more years, I worked the x years and then moved on. Turns out the agent of the company - some mid level manager - who offered me the bonus wasn't supposed to according to the company's internal rules. Now a decade later they want it back? No court in the land would say I have to return it!

What, please, is the difference?

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
13. A Master Sergeant has already been Court-martialed..
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 09:54 AM
Oct 2016

and is serving time for this SNAFU. But I find it hard to believe that he/she acted without direction.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
15. Lets get something straight, Some of these NCOs knew better...........
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:26 AM
Oct 2016

And after reading about this on different military mags, The COs and NCOs were mostly guility of letting lower ranked soldiers receive these funds. BUT on the other hand some soldiers are definitely getting screwed.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
14. Republicans have a long track record of shitting on our veterans
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:05 AM
Oct 2016

Check the record. Republicans love to pretend, but they screw over our vets time and time again.

Republicans have even selected another chickenhawk - with five freaking military deferment - to be their leader and role model. And then Donny Deferment (R) cozies up with the Evil Empire of Russia, insults our veterans, and demeans people who have been captured by the enemy while defending America.

 

Peaches999

(118 posts)
18. Does the do nothing Pentagon have no accountability here?
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 11:39 AM
Oct 2016

Do nothing is really the wrong word here, the Pentagon did do something. They were inappropriately clawing back these bonuses.

The Pentagon made no request to Congress to change the law until there was bipartisan opposition to what was happening. Rather than playing a petty blame game on this issue (there are much more important and stronger issues to use political capital to attack the Republicans), a law needs to be passed and one that remits back the already collected clawed back bonuses.

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