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If the Bundys can be found innocent in Oregon... (Original Post) SHRED Oct 2016 OP
I wonder if Jury Nullification occured. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2016 #1
No wonder the other jurors wanted to get rid of the former BLM guy csziggy Oct 2016 #3
I see this as just one more marked50 Oct 2016 #2
Aren't they all facing other charges? blogslut Oct 2016 #4
In Nevada SHRED Oct 2016 #5
Wow, are some jury's stupid. n/t ScienceIsGood Oct 2016 #6
and, in the meantime, look what is happening to the protectors at dapl. niyad Oct 2016 #7
Sadly so. SHRED Oct 2016 #8
How many of them have been killed? jberryhill Oct 2016 #33
Didn't they destroy property? livingonearth Oct 2016 #9
Miscarriage of justice SHRED Oct 2016 #10
Unintentional consequences Bear Creek Oct 2016 #15
and can you link to those videos, please? niyad Oct 2016 #36
This is a travesty of Justice MarinCoUSA Oct 2016 #11
lotta sovereign Citizens in Oregon........ Cryptoad Oct 2016 #12
Comparing Eastern Oregon to PDX and the Coast is like comparing Henry Hyde's part of IL to Chicago. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #13
Rural/Urban divide same for whole country. ErikJ Oct 2016 #17
I wonder where they pulled the jury from. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #18
Those fucks should be in prison Not Sure Oct 2016 #14
Brexit. IS. Bundy. Trump. Turbineguy Oct 2016 #16
Go here to take action burrowowl Oct 2016 #19
It's mind-blowing! They had to drop the ball on jury selection! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #20
Wasn't the jury, it was the prosecutors trying to send a political message that screwed it up pediatricmedic Oct 2016 #21
Not even convicted for illegal possession of firearms... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #23
Nor were they charged with... SHRED Oct 2016 #24
A better explanation from another member on DU pediatricmedic Oct 2016 #25
That was one of several charges. Are people suggesting that... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #26
Yes juries do react that way. former9thward Oct 2016 #30
Well at least they tazed the defense attorney today after the verdict. MissB Oct 2016 #22
Yes, attacking someone who is defending the Constitution. former9thward Oct 2016 #28
Yep, that's it! MissB Oct 2016 #31
We all aspire to your righteousness... LanternWaste Oct 2016 #34
ROFLMFAO snooper2 Oct 2016 #35
Oh boy! I'm going to go live is a federal office somewhere! It's not against the law! Kablooie Oct 2016 #27
I know where I'm living! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #29
Of course if you're black it means instant death, but whites, your home free! Kablooie Oct 2016 #32

csziggy

(34,133 posts)
3. No wonder the other jurors wanted to get rid of the former BLM guy
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 09:36 PM
Oct 2016

The juror they questioned had worked for the BLM for a short time 20 years ago. He'd made it through voir dire and the trial but when they started deliberations, the other jurors questioned whether he should be on the jury at all. The judge let it happen - I think in an effort to be fair.

I would love to hear that juror's side of things.

marked50

(1,366 posts)
2. I see this as just one more
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 09:32 PM
Oct 2016

thing for the crazies to latch onto after Nov 8. There is no telling where we are going.....

livingonearth

(728 posts)
9. Didn't they destroy property?
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:35 PM
Oct 2016

I saw videos of them using backhoes digging trenches. They were riding around in public vehicles. I saw videos of them taking down cameras, and generally smelling up the place.

What about trespassing? Aren't they at least charged with that?

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
15. Unintentional consequences
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 11:22 PM
Oct 2016

[link:http://www.npr.org/2016/10/27/499575873/oregon-occupation-unites-native-american-tribes-to-save-their-land|
Tribes in Nevada are now pushing for permanent protection of lands they consider sacred around militia leader Cliven Bundy's ranch, the man who inspired the Oregon occupation and father of Ammon and Ryan. A coalition of tribes in Utah is pushing for a national monument on cultural lands there. And the most high-profile show of tribal unity since the Oregon occupation has been the protests over the Dakota Access Pipeline led by the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe.

MarinCoUSA

(891 posts)
11. This is a travesty of Justice
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:54 PM
Oct 2016

And when the media puts a mic in front of Trump (and any rePuke) and he repeats hid KKK dog whistle, the country will be repulsed.
Just hoping we get through election day without a Timmy McVey event at the polls.

This is the OJ verdict redux, but this verdict comes with an immediate moral imperative for all. Let the Second Great Uprising At the North Begin.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
13. Comparing Eastern Oregon to PDX and the Coast is like comparing Henry Hyde's part of IL to Chicago.
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 11:11 PM
Oct 2016

"Oregon" is very blue, because most of the people are concentrated in the Portland area and that's very progressive. But there are some pretty Red areas in Oregon.

pediatricmedic

(397 posts)
21. Wasn't the jury, it was the prosecutors trying to send a political message that screwed it up
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 12:46 AM
Oct 2016

They overcharged. Should have stuck to charges that would stick and be easy to prove. Tried to send them to prison for life when they could have sent them away for 5 to 10 years.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
23. Not even convicted for illegal possession of firearms...
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 12:55 AM
Oct 2016

... in a federal facility?!

That charge wasn't overreach at all!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
26. That was one of several charges. Are people suggesting that...
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:11 AM
Oct 2016

... the jury failed to pronounce guilt on all charges simply because SOME of them might have been extreme?

I don't think most juries would react that way.

MissB

(15,805 posts)
22. Well at least they tazed the defense attorney today after the verdict.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 12:50 AM
Oct 2016

That's about the only bright spot.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
34. We all aspire to your righteousness...
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 08:58 AM
Oct 2016

We all aspire to your righteousness... regardless of its content of sincerity.

Kablooie

(18,619 posts)
27. Oh boy! I'm going to go live is a federal office somewhere! It's not against the law!
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:13 AM
Oct 2016

Homeless people everywhere!
A nice warm office is waiting for you at your nearest federal office.
You can even use a gun to keep them from throwing you out.
Perfectly legal now.

Whoo hoo!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
29. I know where I'm living!
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:16 AM
Oct 2016

The courthouse where my sister used to work. It has a tall tower that will allow me to see everything with my rifle in hand.

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