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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 11:12 PM Oct 2016

I'm stunned by the Bundy Oregon verdicts

Meanwhile at Standing Rock, when corporate interests are threatened, the hammer is coming down.



And guess what...we tax payers get to pay for the Bundy destruction they did to the Refuge.

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I'm stunned by the Bundy Oregon verdicts (Original Post) SHRED Oct 2016 OP
That verdict was BS. Lifelong Protester Oct 2016 #1
Sickening. nruthie Oct 2016 #3
Not for people of color SHRED Oct 2016 #5
I'm thoroughly disgusted but ultimately not surprised. Orrex Oct 2016 #4
White men can get away with anything in the USA. Laffy Kat Oct 2016 #6
Don't blame the jury. PdxSean Oct 2016 #7
Standing Rock is State, Malheur is Federal. malthaussen Oct 2016 #8

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
1. That verdict was BS.
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 11:34 PM
Oct 2016

Maybe someone here can explain it to me, like they will be held liable under another ruling, but my gut says it is just BS.

nruthie

(466 posts)
3. Sickening.
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 11:43 PM
Oct 2016

As an Oregonian I am appalled beyond belief. Unbelievable. This will give a green light to every anti-government loon out there to do whatever they want. It's outrageous.

PdxSean

(574 posts)
7. Don't blame the jury.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 12:53 AM
Oct 2016

Last edited Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:42 AM - Edit history (1)

As I wrote in a similar thread:

They were charged with "conspiring to impede federal workers from their jobs." What? They weren't even charged with a basic destruction of federal property. If my black ass had done what the Bundy crew did, it would have taken the court a full day just to read the list of charges the prosecutor would have filed against me. This, assuming I survived the hail of bullets law enforcement would have rained down on me the moment I came out to chat about "terms."

I don't think the jury can be blamed for this one. If you catch a man ON-CAMERA stealing an apple, and you charge him with stealing an orange, you lose.

Edit to add: They were also charged with possession of a firearm on federal property. Only the jury can explain the acquittal on that one. A-mazing.

malthaussen

(17,184 posts)
8. Standing Rock is State, Malheur is Federal.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:50 AM
Oct 2016

The Feds have always adopted a hands-off approach to civil disobedience, allowing the governors and local law enforcement to bear the onus. Thus the Feds can keep their hands relatively clean while the State of North Dakota breaks heads.

As is clear from the charges presented, the Feds were not particularly interested in inconveniencing the Bundy boys any. Whether this is because of racism, or an attempt not to make martyrs, or some other reason, it is a pitiful performance and an insane response by the jury. It does boggle the mind.

The Feds could put a stop to the DAPL pipeline in a second, though, by revoking the permits granted by the Corps of Engineers. But again, "inaction" seems to be their watchword.

I wonder what the shade of RFK would say.

-- Mal

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