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Stinky The Clown

(67,790 posts)
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:04 AM Oct 2016

Would this be a nanny state law or a law for the national good?

There has always been discussion of the Fairness Doctrine. Many think it forced honesty on the news. It didn't and that wasn't even close to its intent.

So how about this:

Define NEWS in legal terms.

Require that any and all media, apart from the personal, clearly identify when they are reporting news. For example, require they display a bug on their screens that says NEWS. Require that they can only deal in facts. Not equivalencies. Not opinions. Not debate. Just actual facts.

Make a BIG DEAL out of the new system. Make sure everyone knows what news and facts are. Enforce the new law vigorously.

Everything else can stay as it is. Fox can keep on spewing their spew. They just can't call it NEWS. Breitbart can do whatever they wish. Rachel Maddow will have to break her self indulgent story telling into fact and opinion/analysis.

No one will be REQUIRED to give anyone the news. If Fox wants to continue to be GOPropaganda, no problem. They can even give their flavor of "news" but they will not be allowed to call it news.


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Would this be a nanny state law or a law for the national good? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Oct 2016 OP
the problem with that melm00se Oct 2016 #1
Nice try, but it won't pass the 1st Amendment challenge...nt Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #2
No thanks GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #3
This can't even be stretched to be called censorship Stinky The Clown Oct 2016 #4
That implies a huge assumption that you will agree with whichever authority... Upin Oct 2016 #12
You deny censorship GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #13
Simply a bad idea. n/t Throd Oct 2016 #5
What should the penalty be for those who dare to defy this bullshit edict? CBGLuthier Oct 2016 #7
The question is Turin_C3PO Oct 2016 #8
Who gets to determine what's news? ileus Oct 2016 #9
The Ministry of Truth pinboy3niner Oct 2016 #10
Completely uneforceable and subjective... Upin Oct 2016 #11
I don't understand this authoritarian impulse to impose government control on the press. tritsofme Oct 2016 #14
Trump wants to jimmy with the media, too. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #15
This would be unconstitutional Peaches999 Oct 2016 #16

melm00se

(4,990 posts)
1. the problem with that
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:20 AM
Oct 2016

is I can present "facts" but "facts" can be omitted (rarely do you get all the facts) or colored by word selection or positioning within the newscast, these can (and do) skew the perception of the event(s).

Is the next step a law/regulation that a station/network must carry stories A, B and C with the following wording and time positioning during the broadcast hour?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
3. No thanks
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:52 AM
Oct 2016

I'll stick with the first amendment instead.

Because we regularly see even here on DU that it is not just people on the right who would like the government to censor those they disagree with. As demonstrated by your scenario.

Stinky The Clown

(67,790 posts)
4. This can't even be stretched to be called censorship
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 12:46 PM
Oct 2016

There is no requirement to present news. You can present a news like half hour of bullshit if you like. You just can't display the NEWS bug.

Upin

(115 posts)
12. That implies a huge assumption that you will agree with whichever authority...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 02:23 PM
Oct 2016

... is deemed to determine the finite line between facts and opinion.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
13. You deny censorship
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 02:26 PM
Oct 2016

Then proceed to tout censorship.

If the government punishes someone for calling any speech by the wrong name it is by definition censorship.

I can call porn news, a sit-com news or a brown cow news. If the government punishes me for that it is censorship.

The first amendment covers ALL speech.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
7. What should the penalty be for those who dare to defy this bullshit edict?
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 01:53 PM
Oct 2016

Flogging? Execution?

No thanks, we don't need some nebulous "someone" to decide what is news and what isn't. What are acceptable facts and what aren't.

Surely you realize this bullshit is the kind of thing that happens in totalitarian countries, not free ones.

Turin_C3PO

(13,964 posts)
8. The question is
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 01:55 PM
Oct 2016

who would be appointed to determine if what's being reported is factual or not? You know the Repubs, if in charge, would call Fox Spews fact-based reporting.

tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
14. I don't understand this authoritarian impulse to impose government control on the press.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 02:53 PM
Oct 2016

Especially from people on the left, it is just foreign to me, and quite scary.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
15. Trump wants to jimmy with the media, too.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 04:10 PM
Oct 2016

I don't think it's a very good idea. The 1st Amendment shouldn't be screwed with lightly- or at all.

 

Peaches999

(118 posts)
16. This would be unconstitutional
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 06:42 PM
Oct 2016

The only medium where news can be regulated is on governmentally leased airwaves.

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