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warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 01:48 PM Nov 2016

The Fairness Doctrine would stop Trumps planned "News Network" in its tracks

If you think Fox news screwed the country up, creating what is now known as "Donald Trumps base", wait till you see what the proposed "Orange Network" will do....




"Trump campaign CEO Steve Bannon is also a right-wing media entrepreneur. During the campaign, Bannon is on leave as the CEO of Breitbart News, an organization whose unabashedly nativist and pro-Trump coverage might provide a blueprint for the Trump network’s sensibility. Kushner is a member of Trump’s trusted inner circle–Kushner’s handpicked Observer editor Ken Kurson helped write at least one Trump campaign speech this year–and would likely be involved in any post-election effort in the media industry."

http://www.spin.com/2016/10/the-donald-trump-news-network-might-be-inching-closer-to-reality/


Restoring the fairness doctrine would prevent this disaster.


There are some who argue "why give right wing talking heads equal time with Maddow and other liberal voices?

The answer is that by the way corporate controls these voices, the right already has MORE than equal time, by a long shot

Any "liberal voice" who does too much truth telling gets canned, to start.

How many times has it happened now, not just on MSNBC, but others? I've actually lost count.

And when the "news" turns into an endless loop beating the dead horse of Hillarys emails, endless attention to every shitty remark Trump makes, and on and on, the "liberal voices" are drowned out in the howling foul wind of right wing propaganda.

I don't see why any democrat would oppose the fairness doctrine.

That is, unless, they are heavily invested in media conglomerates.


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The Fairness Doctrine would stop Trumps planned "News Network" in its tracks (Original Post) warrprayer Nov 2016 OP
Simce it's apparently legal to peddle opinion as "news".... Beartracks Nov 2016 #1
The "fairness doctrine" didn't apply to cable-TV channels nor would it apply to the Internet. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2016 #2
I'm sure warrprayer Nov 2016 #3
So you want censorship. What his network will pedal is bullshit but he should have the right JRLeft Nov 2016 #24
^This. Captain Stern Nov 2016 #4
It didn't do much... TreasonousBastard Nov 2016 #9
Yes, because it only applies to those with broadcast licenses, but not only that... TreasonousBastard Nov 2016 #8
So there ought to be a law prohibiting false and misleading content meow2u3 Nov 2016 #17
If we're going to have a law prohibiting false and misleading content... Dr. Strange Nov 2016 #19
Point taken warrprayer Nov 2016 #30
That's called censorship, and quite a few of us think it is better to have a few... TreasonousBastard Nov 2016 #32
So, then warrprayer Nov 2016 #31
Can we drop the 'evil democrats' meme? emulatorloo Nov 2016 #5
The words "evil democrats" warrprayer Nov 2016 #6
Uh-huh emulatorloo Nov 2016 #7
There may well be democrats warrprayer Nov 2016 #21
As other commenters have already pointed out anoNY42 Nov 2016 #10
Perhaps we have hit the root of the problem warrprayer Nov 2016 #23
You forgot to include a rebuttal of equal length from a RW source in your OP. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2016 #11
The Trump name is mud to everyone except those who frequent Fox. Trump can't get money. anamandujano Nov 2016 #12
Boy, Have You Missed The Obvious Solution To That Problem ProfessorGAC Nov 2016 #13
They might try considering they know the level of intelligence they attract. anamandujano Nov 2016 #15
Or alternatively, RT can change its name to tRump News meow2u3 Nov 2016 #18
... warrprayer Nov 2016 #26
I enjoy the humor warrprayer Nov 2016 #28
Trump may be out warrprayer Nov 2016 #29
If Bannon does a network it won't be called Trump TV, nor will the con man be able to chip in funds. anamandujano Nov 2016 #33
Perhaps warrprayer Nov 2016 #34
FD won't apply to Trump's webstreams from his bunker. TeamPooka Nov 2016 #14
The bestest reality show in the whole wide world! anamandujano Nov 2016 #16
This authoritarian impulse on the left to ban unfriendly press is highly disturbing tritsofme Nov 2016 #20
It's been in development for a while. I don't know what the hell JRLeft Nov 2016 #25
Not advocating banning anything. warrprayer Nov 2016 #27
You know that the Fairness Doctrine only applied to broadcast channels with FCC licenses? brooklynite Nov 2016 #22

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
1. Simce it's apparently legal to peddle opinion as "news"....
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 01:52 PM
Nov 2016

... it only stands to reason that the Fairness Doctrine should be re-established.

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JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
24. So you want censorship. What his network will pedal is bullshit but he should have the right
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:34 PM
Nov 2016

to convey his bullshit on a cable network.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
4. ^This.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 01:57 PM
Nov 2016

It seems that a lot of the folks that think the Fairness Doctrine would solve some problems, don't really understand what it was, and what it did.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. Yes, because it only applies to those with broadcast licenses, but not only that...
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:04 PM
Nov 2016

it really tended to be unenforceable. If you didn't like a segment, just claim it's "unfair" and demand an alternative viewpoing.

Should we let the FCC, itself subject to political forces, decide what arguments or presented facts are "fair"?

Do we set up another body to decide? One that includes other media? That pesky 1st Amendment could get in the way.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
17. So there ought to be a law prohibiting false and misleading content
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 04:10 PM
Nov 2016

Not only on broadcast, but also on cable programming. Conservatives can still broadcast their radio programs, but they won't be able to lie like rugs, slander, or stereotype people and hide behind the excuse of opinion. But I doubt Fox Noise would survive the proposed new rules.

I'd call it the Anti-Propaganda Doctrine.

Dr. Strange

(25,919 posts)
19. If we're going to have a law prohibiting false and misleading content...
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 04:25 PM
Nov 2016

it should start with politicians, not media. Once politicians start being truthful, we can focus on media and others.

Just a reminder, though: although Hillary is the "most truthful", she's still dishonest 28% of the time. So your Anti-Propaganda Doctrine will be targeting her a lot.

Careful what you wish for!

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
30. Point taken
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 06:04 PM
Nov 2016

And perhaps I should say I am not suggesting a return to the exact letter of the fairness doctrine.

I'm sure a workable way of ensuring some token of fair play in the media could be hammered out.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
32. That's called censorship, and quite a few of us think it is better to have a few...
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 06:55 PM
Nov 2016

liars floating around than to have the government "approve" our speech.

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
31. So, then
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 06:09 PM
Nov 2016

If, hypotheticaly, CNN's management goes nuts and decides to air nothing but Trump 27/7, there should be no type of regulation?

emulatorloo

(44,116 posts)
7. Uh-huh
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:04 PM
Nov 2016

"I don't see why any democrat would oppose the fairness doctrine. That is, unless, they are heavily invested in media conglomerates."

Don't piss on my shoe and tell me it's raining.

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
21. There may well be democrats
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:29 PM
Nov 2016

Who are invested iin MSNBC, for example who see that as a good thing, and they have a point to be considered.

I do not consider them "evil", like, say, Breitbart.

Hope that clarifies!

 

anoNY42

(670 posts)
10. As other commenters have already pointed out
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:32 PM
Nov 2016

on this OP and on your other one, the Fairness Doctrine applied only to broadcast networks. Indeed, the whole rationalization of the doctrine, that it was needed for scare, "publicly owned" bandwidth, implies that it could not be extended to cable news networks of the type that Trump News certainly would be.

Why must you persist in clogging my "Latest Threads" page with this nonsense?

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
23. Perhaps we have hit the root of the problem
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:33 PM
Nov 2016

It is not "your" Latest Threads" page.

It is OUR Latest Threads page.

Thank you very much.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
11. You forgot to include a rebuttal of equal length from a RW source in your OP.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:57 PM
Nov 2016

Please correct the oversight within the hour or self-delete.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
12. The Trump name is mud to everyone except those who frequent Fox. Trump can't get money.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:20 PM
Nov 2016

If Fox and Trump have to share an audience, they won't take in enough cash to make either of them profitable. Trump will be tied up in court, bleeding whatever resources he has left to pay his lawyers at the stalling game. His foundation/slush fund has been shut down so he can't use that money. I suppose he can use whatever he has squirreled away from his campaign, saved by not paying staff or vendors. Trump will be in prison after awhile.

There will be no Trump TV.

ProfessorGAC

(64,996 posts)
13. Boy, Have You Missed The Obvious Solution To That Problem
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:28 PM
Nov 2016

Trump and Faux just need to make a day last 48 hours, and the people can watch both Faux and the new clown network 24/7.

Obviously you didn't think through your criticism!

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
18. Or alternatively, RT can change its name to tRump News
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 04:13 PM
Nov 2016

Still the same false content, only with the Orange Jackass' name on it.

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
29. Trump may be out
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 06:00 PM
Nov 2016

But Steve Bannon may not be.

And from what I've read, Fox takes the threat of a Trump network quite seriously.

If they do, perhaps it would behoove us to be proactive.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
33. If Bannon does a network it won't be called Trump TV, nor will the con man be able to chip in funds.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 07:38 PM
Nov 2016

I haven't watched Faux News for years and still get upset stomachs when I read their names. I do have to read their lies on other websites I frequent. I doubt there is any way to stop these nuts. We just have to wait for them to die.

tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
20. This authoritarian impulse on the left to ban unfriendly press is highly disturbing
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 04:28 PM
Nov 2016

This is hardly the first time I've seen it. No concept of free speech or the First Amendment whatsoever, very sad.

Only a coward wins a debate by taking away his opponent's microphone.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
25. It's been in development for a while. I don't know what the hell
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:36 PM
Nov 2016

is going on bit it needs to stop.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
22. You know that the Fairness Doctrine only applied to broadcast channels with FCC licenses?
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:33 PM
Nov 2016

Cable TV, webcasts etc. are not under FCC jurisdiction, nor should they be.

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