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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBeen to a lot of other sites in the past week
Take it from me.
THERE. IS. NO. SUBSTITUTE.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)a kennedy
(29,655 posts)I felt terrible, almost as bad as a facebook person I know who voted for tRump and had nothing and I mean nothing good to say about HRC. I thought I was on a repub site. such hate.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)a kennedy
(29,655 posts)jack pine radicals.......do you know of it? I felt so out of place.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)Oh, and Bernie's a complete sell-out, anti-Trump protesters are paid by Soros, Trump's nothing to fear, if you voted for Hillary yr a Hillbot who wants WW3 but those who voted for Trump aren't racists and bigots or even folk who don't give a shit about racism and bigotry as long as it's not aimed at them. Some 'Lock Her Up!' posts, and insistence every time someone mentioned what a scary prospect a Trump administration was going to be that people having a go at Trump need to focus on the real issue, which is how terribly evil Hillary is and how they need to be alert and stop her. And that we must respect Trump supporters.
I sat and wondered to myself if maybe I wasn't as progressive as I thought I was, coz the combination of Trump soft love and high octane Hillary hate mixed with a measure of loathing for Bernie Sanders made me uncomfortable. And then I thought, nah, I'm pretty sure some of the views expressed there are pretty fucked up, so I departed and returned to DU.
I've got some DU friends who are over there, think highly of one of the admins, and thankfully they're not part of the small but loud group who are fangrrling for Trump. I'll miss them, but I don't think that place is for me. If I want to read stuff like that, I'll head over to Discussionist when it's up and running again. At least there, RW talking points are coming from RW posters, not people who drape themselves in the cloak of being progressive....
cwydro
(51,308 posts)They appear to be turning on Bernie now too.
A site fueled by hate and sour grapes.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)We'll see how it goes in here now.
I found myself harangued and scoffed at on here ever since the site declaration a month before an official nominee was announced for the Democratic party, with the edict of banning all "fighting the primary" which was a coded message for all hail Hillary, all the time and if you don't like it f off.
If Bernie would have conceded after California, then of course, no need to discuss and weight the merits of each, (including the electability issues). But Bernie made it clear that he was taking it all the way to the convention, so that made that new edict, respectfully because I know Earl G and Skinner have done an exemplarary job over the years, wrong on a number of levels.
This site was clearly in the majority for Sanders. I heard from a prominent member that she heard from admins it was as high as 85%. I kind of doubt that but it was still very high. So that rash move caused an exodus of a lot of good people trying to find a home where they could actually ruminate on the merits and dangers of Hillary as the nominee. Or on the very real dirty tricks of the establishment DNC. All this was deemed "re-fighting the primaries" ......A MONTH BEFORE THE PRIMARIES WERE OFFICIALLY OVER.
Many of us that went there and still do, have to hold our noses at some of the posts and threads. I think they have bee infiltrated by a small but vocal army of Brietbart fans. Ridiculous posts you would normally hear from Alex Jones. Soros is Dr. Evil and secretly runs the planet etc.. And Trump is preferable to the Clinton crime family. But we felt we had no where else to go.
There are many that were caught in the middle of what my post title says. I am glad and thankful that the admins have seen fit to allow us to now at least discuss the primaries process and the kind of misguided tunnelvision that the Democratic party elites stoked.
I had maybe one post hidden in my 13 years, and had 3 or 4 hidden in a matter of weeks simply for trying to engage this type of discussion. I wrote more than one post in one of the many dancing banana threads about the inevitable party we were all going to have soon, that Trump could still win and listed why, and I was laughed off or declared a "concern troll".
So people went where they could raise concerns and vent. We put up with the outlandish Brietbart worshipers to be able to discuss this election FROM ALL ANGLES. Not just from the strict new edicts from DU. I'd like to see some kind of understanding from folks on here of those that felt they had to leave and are filtering back. We need to come together at this time.
seaglass
(8,171 posts)outside the US and not eligible to vote. Skinner reiterated those conditions today. I don't think there are too many over there that fit that criteria.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)I'd like to see him back and others there. Seemed to be a small but vocal cadre of sour folks on here that didn't understand sarcasm. News flash: The Colbert Report was also satire. That or they knew very well how powerful satire is to cut through the bullshit and they worked 24/7 to kick him off until they found something they could blow up.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Felt lost, like moving to a new city and searching for the right place to shop for a certain product and couldn't find one.
MissB
(15,805 posts)Bigredhunk
(1,349 posts)I wrote this in another thread. HuffPo, Daily Kos, Talking Points Memo, Think Progress, Media Matters...they all pale in comparison. I was lost without DU. I'm doing cartwheels here!! Cartwheels aren't easy for a 6'5" guy to do!
And the comments by the knuckle draggers and liberal HRC haters under DU's Twitter & Facebook comments made it worse.
rickford66
(5,523 posts)DU is so smooth and usually trouble free. Hats off !!
a kennedy
(29,655 posts)erinlough
(2,176 posts)monmouth4
(9,694 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)I did find some web sites who were mean enough to be laughing at everyone here and cheering the troll who took us down. It was disgusting, and it made me want to rip their own hearts out and feed it to them.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)I went there for some solace and friendship and found ugly hate.
manicraven
(901 posts)The Trumpsters are gloating and vicious. Also, they sure don't seem like a very happy bunch of people, even despite winning. Now there's big denial going on that (1) protesters are paid shills, (2) that Trump actually won the popular vote and the MSM is lying about his victory. And, there's no convincing them otherwise.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)not my style.
Is good to be back in from the wilderness.
rurallib
(62,406 posts)It is good to be home
Did enjoy some good reading over at Boll Moyers site, though.
BumRushDaShow
(128,892 posts)Had stopped into dKOS to lurk and a couple other sites just to get a sense of the aftermath. I did manage to see a random report somewhere about how poor Sam Wang did go on and eat a bug as promised (ended up being gourmet crickets)... But this is why I missed LBN most of all because my fellow Duers have always done an excellent job finding and posting newsworthy items when I don't often get chance to go hunting them down myself.
Agree that there is really no good substitute.
tavernier
(12,381 posts)There is no such thing as coincidence.
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)Scruffy1
(3,255 posts)Big thanks for getting it up running.
Stuart G
(38,420 posts)AND ....at the same time presents the news, almost as it happens..this place often beats out many mainstream sources.......
NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING
riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)davekriss
(4,616 posts)ChazInAz
(2,566 posts)There's no place like home.
manicraven
(901 posts)If I could, I'd hug all of you!
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)Daily Kos sucks on every level compared to DU
freeplessinseattle
(3,508 posts)flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)It's good to have us all back!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)My wife subscribed and three times a day she comes in crying about Paul Ryan cutting Social Security and Medicare.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)Science, the environment, late breaking news, national defense, foreign affairs, gardening, weird news, the Lounge, and so on and so on.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)Not that change is bad - it happens to everyone and everything.
Nitram
(22,791 posts)LT TX
(104 posts)I read but hardly ever posted. I missed this place so much. Nothing else like it!
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)I really missed DU. I am so glad we are back up and running.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)You're right; there's no place like home.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)seaglass
(8,171 posts)follow. I do prefer a forum format but wish there was a way to integrate twitter threads into DU.
hunter
(38,311 posts)Yes, this situation is fucking awful, but like a good Irish wake, laughter is an essential part of the healing.