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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy did Hillary not challenge the results?
I have been hearing about exit polls not matching what happened. Plus, she won by 1-2 MILLION votes. Even with the electoral collage bullshit, could some of those states flip to blue?
bullimiami
(13,083 posts)I wish there would be at least some audits where these exit polls don't match to prove that the tabulators are correct.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"I have been hearing about exit polls not matching what happened"
Make your case. As it stands, I see no case here. Let's regroup and make sure we are on the winning side in two, four, six, eight, years out.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)~Voter ID laws
~Scrubbing the voter rolls
~Closing down 100's of polling places: Strategically
~Only having one tally machine at a poll, where in another district (same town) they had several.
The list goes on. Republicans are predators. They only win because they cheat.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Highly inaccurate in my opinion. Do they cheat? Yes. Is that the great reason they won? Not in any way what so ever.
The county I live in went for Trump. Our voting went of without a hitch. Great system we have set up. We have voted for Dems in the past.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)This election was different.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The difference is that we got our asses kicked. Yes, there are voting issues that must be addressed. They are not the reason we just got our asses handed to us. Look at Pinellas County among others all across the country. It ends your argument.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)WHY, WHY, WHY hand the enemy their ammo??? I will never understand how that horrendous mistake was allowed to happen.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)We start each cycle a leg down in the first place. From the media to voter suppression to outside influences.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)ANYTHING she does becomes ammunition.
EVERYTHING she does becomes ammunition.
This year we found out just how much even being a woman was used as ammuntion - on BOTH sides.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)I have been educating myself regarding how serious, invasive, pervasive voter suppression is and has been growing.
We experienced election fraud, not voter fraud as dumpman spread.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Redistricting/Gerrymandering is a serious issue. Few know that more than Floridians. In a bout of irony, we gained a house seat due to a redrawn district in my area. Crist would have never stood a chance a couple of years back. The district was redrawn favoring Democrats for the seat. It is almost always in favor of Republicans when done in the state of Florida.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)The post is about, "Why didn't Hillary challenge the results?"
I still ask that question.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I would think it would be accompanied by a case for the results to be challenged.
My answer is simple. We got beat. What avenue do you think Clinton should use to challenge the results?
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... from 2006 looks like this is what happened.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... numbers are compounded in those states she was projected to win from 2006
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It should be a cornerstone of our efforts moving forward.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts).... legitimacy of Donald Putin on the grounds of voter suppression in the media should be a minimum though
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And I think that the final numbers might be enlightening in further discussions about how Hillary couldn't get out the vote.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I think Clinton did a solid job at getting out the vote.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)astral
(2,531 posts)I heard Michigan went for Trump which was enough to sway the popular vote to him too, however I haven't learned yet whether this is true. I also understand there were two other states that never turned in their vote count, and that once an electoral college vote has been determined, the rest of the absentee ballots are not counted if they exist, if there aren't enough uncounted votes to change the results in that state.
So, in short, there really were enough uncounted votes and a small enough margin that it really can't be determined if she won the popular vote for certain, and, if the tables were turned, Donald Trump had been chastised hundreds of times to accept the election results, whatever they are.
WOULD he have? I don't know. Undocumented voting and double-dipping at the polls was reported to have happened, were all these votes leaning towards Hillary? We can't really prove that one way or the other either.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)The election is, sadly, over.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I'm personally for getting rid of it. We have the technology now, today, in 2016 so that people could vote regardless of their location. One person. One vote.
I'm tired of the Dems getting screwed. Why should my vote not be as important as some person out in an unpopulated area? I choose to live where I do, and that person chooses to live where he/she does.
still_one
(92,116 posts)wasn't the only state where that similarity occurred.
So in this election, the third party votes did affect the outcome
The only flicker of light is that Lindsey Graham said he will vote to keep the filibuster. I assume the reason being is there is some real concerns about trump, and I suspect there would be a few other republicans who would share the same sentiments.
If the filibuster does stay, there will still be plenty of damage that will be inflicted, but it may slow the process down, and may just reduce or prevent maximum damage to Social Security and Medicare. If nothing else it might allow the Democrats a small vehicle to prevent damage.
As long as trump doesn't blow up the world, time should be on our side, but it will be very painful, and a lot of people are going to suffer. The long term goal will be to retake Congress and the Executive branch, and try to reverse any damage done for as long as this regime is in control