So we get Schumer, but Pelosi has to go WTF???

[boston bean]

She now has her challenger... The white men are taking their party back as promised by Sanders and Michael Moore! OH Rep Tim Ryan will challenge.

[Renew Deal]

1. Nothing says party of the people like a 100 millionaire minority leader

[Hortensis]

2. Maybe pull it in, Bean? I'm a great Pelosi admirer, but she

would have been challenged for the speaker position if we had won also. Not everything is men oppressing women, and certainly not in the Democratic Party. Remember, WE just elected four female senators and fought a noble and high-minded battle to elect America's first woman president. Belittling us IS belittling us and also all that Hillary did.

(How quickly they forget...)

[boston bean]

4. It certainly looks pretty bad to be removing a woman from power when one just lost one to a

a fucking bigoted pos.

However, that is just me. The optics are terrible and I think the reasoning poor for removing her.

[radical noodle]

6. Agree 100%

[Hortensis]

15. This a real job, not a symbolic one where "optics" rule.

I have always supported Nancy and do now. She is ferociously competent and is still (sadly) the women who has risen to the highest power in our nation. But maybe let this political situation run its natural course without joining our enemies in falsely portraying it all as just "another" betrayal of America by the Democrats?

It is NOT. We're the good guys.

[radical noodle]

24. Of course it is

but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. I think many are happy with the job she's done. Her hands have been relatively tied the last few years because Democrats failed to get out and vote in off year elections.

Maybe there is criticism of her of which I am not aware..

[wordpix]

35. she was moderate, not a firebrand, which we need now IMO

[Hortensis]

42. She is a big consensus builder. She's been collecting

friends and allies for decades. So sad for America that her speakership was in an era when the Republicans went hard-right, purged their moderates, and determined on a destructive course of total war and obstruction.

[Hortensis]

14. Focusing on sparkly objects dangled before them and ignoring

what was behind them is a big part of how the those-who-can-be-fooled on the right caused this mess. The "optics" are for fools.

Loved seeing Hillary speaking last night. She looks like herself again. Bet she doesn't miss the least little bit sitting every day while while her hair and makeup were lacquered and layered into an appropriate image.

"Our campaign was never about one person or even one election. It was about the country we love and about building an America that is hopeful, inclusive and big-hearted." H-

[Raster]

28. I sincerely hope Hillary's public service is not at an end...

...I know he won't do it, but I could see Clinton as our Ambassador to the UN.

[Hortensis]

40. If nothing else, they will have the Foundation and its

projects in dozens of nations around the planet. But I imagine there will be "else" also.

That said, I don't trust the right not to go after her, though. Millions are eager to jail her to prove they're "right" about all her crimes. A new murder, a fake murder-suicide of an FBI agent, has recently been laid at her door. It didn't happen, but many are already eager that "justice" be done, and attacking her would distract them from what their fascistic leaders will be doing.

[Raster]

43. I think if Trump and the right go after Hillary...

...they will just prove how truly callous, cold and cruel they really are. I think that would be a reach too far. And really, what the fuck do they have to jail Hillary Clinton over? Nothing. Nothing but Breitbart-style innuendo.

[mcar]

25. Yep

But all the folks who screamed about bad optics whenever HRC did anything will not agree with this opinion.

[pennylane100]

7. I wonder if Harry Reid would have been challenged if he had decided to run again,

and won, of course.

[pnwmom]

46. We're supposed to be excited about electing 4 female Senators? How many male Democratic

Senators do we have in the Senate?

[cynatnite]

3. Dear women, get in the fucking backseat where you belong...

I fucking hate this!

[leftofcool]

19. No kidding!

[wordpix]

36. I agree, does not look good

And what has Schumer done for us lately? When he was younger he was better and had leadership qualities but now, I don't see them ...what's his legacy?

[radical noodle]

5. Oh great...

silencing women is the solution?

[think]

8. Warren is going into a leadership role or doesn't she count?

[boston bean]

10. She counts. Who said she didn't? But she isn't Senate Minority Leader is she?

[think]

12. Nope. She sure isn't. I'd prefer she was. Schumer was a terrible choice.

[uponit7771]

16. Relative to the optics and what she has to bring in regards to votes I agree, I'd like to know why

.. Schumer vs anyone else.

[cynatnite]

17. I like Schumer, but I didn't think he was a good pick. n/t

[wordpix]

38. good question, she should be in the top role so

Schumer was a poor choice in comparison but maybe there's a good reason it went down like this.

Right now, though, I'm thinking, men support men more than women, perhaps? Warren a little too tough to lead you Democratic males?

[DURHAM D]

9. Looks like we need to form our own party.

Schumer, Sanders, T. Ryan etc have linked up with the Republicans. This is disgusting.

[Wilms]

31. What are you talking about? Seriously.

[phleshdef]

34. Sanders is pushing for a black Muslim to be the leader of the DNC.

Considering that, your statement is painfully silly.

[DURHAM D]

37. This is not about the DNC which makes you painfully silly. nt

[phleshdef]

41. Yes it is. The DNC IS the party leadership.

[WhiteTara]

11. Yep. We're there. Maybe we should

go to DC on the 21st to let them know we exist and are not going away. Or a nationwide business and home boycott.

[boston bean]

21. I have my hotel room for the 21st.. I hope there is a million of us!

[mcar]

26. My son is buying my airfare as a birthday gift!

I'll be staying with him in Columbia Heights.

[boston bean]

30. Excellent!!!!!

[Buzz Clik]

13. Keep in mind what it takes to get a star and post here: just some cash.

Your point is well taken, but consider the source of your frustration.

[leftofcool]

18. It's just white guys taking their country back. Nothing to see here.

[DemocraticWing]

20. I think Pelosi will beat Ryan. He's too conservative.

[Me.]

22. So Here We Go Again

Another class photo with all white, male faces. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. Nancy has done everything, against great odds, the president has asked of her. And what has T. Ryan done that would indicate he has the leadership skills to best her in the job. And, I do know the women in Congress have written her urging her to stay.

[splat]

23. Cut it out. She has balls and experience. Don't F this up. n/t

[geek tragedy]

27. Senate and House are different animals.

The House need to be a bunch of rabble-rousers who are plugged into what the party needs to revitalize itself. It's just not clear that Pelosi and Hoyer have that insight anymore.

Certainly if Pelosi goes, Steny should also go back to the bench.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

29. no fucking way is tim ryan getting this. gross. gross. gross.

[wordpix]

48. based on what?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

54. ..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028295003

[Mc Mike]

32. She is extremely skilled as a House Leader.

She doesn't cry quite as much as the other orange repug, either.

[yurbud]

44. When Dems took back House in 2006, she let Bushies off the hook

and they never return favors like that.

[Mc Mike]

49. I didn't like that either. But she moved legislation, always had the right vote count, while

she was Speaker. And tied them into procedural knots afterwards, as minority leader.

I didn't like the 'look forward, not backward' approach of Prez O, either. When you let them get away with their felonies, they just get emboldened.

[yurbud]

50. that is one "tradition" that has to die that started with LBJ

When presidents and their cabinets commit major crimes, they must be held accountable.

Oddly, the GOP holds Democratic presidents and candidates accountable for perjury about the use of the penis and where they keep their email, but Democrats can't be bothered to go after Republican presidents and candidates who interfere in a sitting president's peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War, interfere in hostage negotiations to undermine a sitting president, violate the law to arm death squads in Nicaragua, ignore warnings about the biggest terrorist attacks on American soil in history then fail to punish the country most responsible, lie about the need for war with Iraq, leading to wasted trillions of dollars, thousands of our troops lives, and over a million Iraqi lives, authorize the use of torture in violation of treaties we mostly wrote...the list goes on and on.

Hillary was not the cleanest candidate in history and she wasn't my first choice, but compared to Baby Bush, Papa Bush, Reagan, and Nixon, she was as pure as the driven snow.

But most people would never know that because Democrats "look back not forward," a policy Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Charles Manson could have benefited from too.

[Mc Mike]

52. I agree with everything you wrote, yur. Thanks, nt.

[Maven]

33. I think it's time for both of them to pass the baton.

That is, both Schumer and Pelosi. And not necessarily to Tim Ryan, but I do think we need a change.

Look, I admire Pelosi but she took investigation of the Bush admin and impeachment "off the table" and that was a huge mistake that we are still paying for. The party needs a fresh face and a fighter for the working class in Congress to go up against Paul Ryan. And sorry, but Pelosi just doesn't come across as earthy or relatable to working class people. It has nothing to do with her gender.

Flame away.

[wordpix]

39. I agree with you

[Uponthegears]

45. I was all ready

to K&R this, then you degenerated into Bernie bashing.

HOWEVER

Your title is 100% CORRECT. WTF indeed.

[wordpix]

47. Tim Ryan on Rachel NOW, this guy is fantastic

Pelosi did what she could do. Time for a fiery leader with smarts and this guy is it. Has fire in the belly to fight the repukes and Don the Con. Nancy, thank you but your time is done.

[Sunlei]

51. This is not the time to remove Pelosi, we need her to keep an eye in the new Admin. She speaks out!

[Warren DeMontague]

53. I support Nancy Pelosi staying in her job.

But, then, I'm one of those "West Coast Liberals".