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liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 09:49 PM Nov 2016

How To Deal With Trump Supporters On Thanksgiving

Blogger writes tips for coping with the Trump supporters on Thanksgiving.

First….
If you’re a drinker, I strongly suggest you start drinking early.



Second….
Wear comfortable clothes.


Third….
Find an ally.
You really need at least one person in the room to be on Team Sanity with you.

Fourth….
Prepare for emergencies.
Before the day even starts find a safe space and give yourself a good pep-talk.

Fifth….
Don’t lose hope.
Here’s the thing. We will survive a Trump Presidency. We really will. Oh, it’s going to be four years of hell alright, but we WILL survive it. And if we can survive the Apocalypse called Trump, we can survive one day with our misguided relatives.

If all else fails, take a deep breath and start over at number one.

Happy Thanksgiving, Lefties!!


Mindy Fischer is a lefty-liberal, freelance political writer. Follow her on Facebook and on Twitter.

Full descriptions at link http://mindy-fischer-writer.com/2016/11/deal-trump-supporters-thanksgiving/

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How To Deal With Trump Supporters On Thanksgiving (Original Post) liberal N proud Nov 2016 OP
Canceled on the Trump loving in laws, done with that Shit. sarcasmo Nov 2016 #1
I have an agreement with my husband Bettie Nov 2016 #2
Stay home. Poach a chicken breast. marybourg Nov 2016 #3
Just very calmly explain what is going to happen to Medicare and SS. DURHAM D Nov 2016 #4
for those concerned about SS / Medicare / Medicaid John_Doe80004 Nov 2016 #9
Trump will sign anything that lands on his desk. DURHAM D Nov 2016 #11
and i will either prove or disprove John_Doe80004 Nov 2016 #35
You think a petition is going to do anything? Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #36
Or show them Trump's anti first amendment stance. Initech Nov 2016 #28
They won't believe you n2doc Nov 2016 #48
I would be a no-show. I'm fed up with catering to Trump types. Fuck them!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #5
i can tolerate trump supporters John_Doe80004 Nov 2016 #6
Thankfully, not a worry in my family this time around... tenderfoot Nov 2016 #7
I am not going anywhere and i am not having any trump voter over. boston bean Nov 2016 #8
I'm there with you MiniMe Nov 2016 #60
Whew! ReRe Nov 2016 #10
Just my wife and I at the beach - with our two dogs. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2016 #12
Thank you! hamsterjill Nov 2016 #18
I've similarly pruned my Facebook contacts. And I am being dropped by some on Twitter NRaleighLiberal Nov 2016 #21
Mine has gone further than Facebook. hamsterjill Nov 2016 #24
It hit me like a bolt out of the blue... Ligyron Nov 2016 #31
When I sat down and started analyzing things hamsterjill Nov 2016 #46
These kind of user people you should drop pronto regardless of politics lunasun Nov 2016 #50
That's absolutely right. hamsterjill Nov 2016 #58
I have almost the same situation you describe going on minus the disengagement (so far). Ligyron Nov 2016 #59
My Plan Kilgore Nov 2016 #13
I'm going full Bluto. Initech Nov 2016 #29
I'm with ya!! Kilgore Nov 2016 #32
Better than taking Xanax! Initech Nov 2016 #38
*snort* smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #37
Lol DesertRat Nov 2016 #57
So much other things to talk about yeoman6987 Nov 2016 #14
You mean without slipping something in their drink? meow2u3 Nov 2016 #15
We don't talk politics at family gatherings--EVER. duffyduff Nov 2016 #16
My family's politic views TimeChaser Nov 2016 #17
Maybe we should just freak them out and one-up them world wide wally Nov 2016 #19
Or walk in with a KKK hood on. That will do all the talking for you. lindysalsagal Nov 2016 #22
But you know what? It's hard to do any serious drinking with those things on. Ligyron Nov 2016 #27
I'm liking this treestar Nov 2016 #41
Seriously, I tried the frothing-at-the-mouth right-wing bomb-throwing anti-everything blow-hard gig. Hugin Nov 2016 #52
Stab them in the eye with a serving fork? The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2016 #20
I was kind of hoping it would involve a baseball bat and mace. justhanginon Nov 2016 #23
Skip it. RB TexLa Nov 2016 #25
I just don't care anymore. Texasgal Nov 2016 #26
I'm so sorry for your loss, Texasgal DesertRat Nov 2016 #30
Yes Texasgal...you are right. I'm sorry for your loss. rusty quoin Nov 2016 #34
If you can afford this attitude treestar Nov 2016 #42
That was unfair, Treestar...... Amaril Nov 2016 #55
I was not aware of that treestar Nov 2016 #61
WTF? Kali Nov 2016 #56
That's not my problem. I'm gonna have a room full of pissed off liberals all on the exact same page. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author lunamagica Nov 2016 #39
Drown them in gravy? MFM008 Nov 2016 #40
I am working so I don't have to deal with people. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2016 #43
I am not convinced AT ALL that we will survive a Trump Presidency with our democracy intact. seaglass Nov 2016 #44
I disagree with number 5 as well liberal N proud Nov 2016 #49
Six: pay attention to your audience... JHB Nov 2016 #45
As luck would have it . . . . HughBeaumont Nov 2016 #47
In as calm a voice as possible, I'm going to say that I don't want to talk about the election. Paladin Nov 2016 #51
I say no drinking, or stay home. Drinking makes things much worse and more hostile. They call it lonestarnot Nov 2016 #53
Yeah... sagetea Nov 2016 #54
With His Broken Promises kebob Nov 2016 #62

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
2. I have an agreement with my husband
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 09:52 PM
Nov 2016

We get to leave if I can't stand being around his gloating sisters and their excessively religious spawn.

John_Doe80004

(156 posts)
9. for those concerned about SS / Medicare / Medicaid
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 10:04 PM
Nov 2016

i have posted a change dot org petition that is asking Trump to keep his campaign trail promises of no cuts to SS / Medicare / Medicaid

it is posted under General section of DU.

Note: Trump has back pedaled and done a 180 on SS/Medicare/Medicaid on his website already and is now considering deep cuts to all entitlements.

John_Doe80004

(156 posts)
35. and i will either prove or disprove
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 12:27 AM
Nov 2016

my hypothesis, that severely gutting entitlements without first bringing back good paying full time jobs with benefits and training people to do those jobs, will crash the economy in a very hard way possibly ushering in a new great depression.

I hope i am completely wrong.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
28. Or show them Trump's anti first amendment stance.
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:58 PM
Nov 2016

They'll shut up once they realize how much their freedoms will erode when Trumpenfuror takes office.

John_Doe80004

(156 posts)
6. i can tolerate trump supporters
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 09:57 PM
Nov 2016

after all they are just full of hot air!!!

Now Trump / Pence on the other hand along with a Republican congress absolutely terrify me with the policies they can enact / repeal making our life a living hell and completely crash our economy.

lets hope what few democrats are left can filibuster the shit out of most of it and use the same tactics against Trump that R's used against Obama.

time to organize, peacefully protest, and be active in the petition process,,,

tenderfoot

(8,426 posts)
7. Thankfully, not a worry in my family this time around...
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 10:01 PM
Nov 2016

not one Trump supporter to be found. My MBA libertarian older sibling voted for Hillary.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
60. I'm there with you
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 12:45 PM
Nov 2016

Well, not with you, but I plan on hunkering down with my favorite beverage and watching football. My blood pressure just can't take being with anybody who would be a tRump supporter.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
10. Whew!
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 10:06 PM
Nov 2016

If the last 12 days have proved anything since that Gawd-awful day, it will be an explosive Thanksgiving this year. One is swearing a move to Iceland. Good luck to everyone this holiday.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
12. Just my wife and I at the beach - with our two dogs.
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 10:13 PM
Nov 2016

As far as I know, both my dogs are Democrats



Seriously, I can't - and won't - knowingly have anything to do with Trump supporters. Support of him indicates a serious moral or character flaw - or both.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
18. Thank you!
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:03 PM
Nov 2016

I have been "cleaning house" of sorts. Re-evaluating a lot of friendships that I've had with Trump supporters, and what I have discovered is a lop-sided friendship. Seems I've been there for them, but I'm not so sure they have been (or would be) there for me. I have come to realize what you said in your post. I'm just different than them and have no desire to be around them anymore.

What I thought was going to be angry and hurtful on my part has actually felt very cathartic. No arguments, no explanations, no goodbyes, just rather a letting go.

I'll be with family - enlightened family - on Thanksgiving, and for that I truly am thankful.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
21. I've similarly pruned my Facebook contacts. And I am being dropped by some on Twitter
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:07 PM
Nov 2016

since I've been pretty obviously anti-Trump.

I am 60 and at this point don't feel like I have to take any shit from anyone. I can't come up with a single legit excuse for being a Trump supporter.

I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving!

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
24. Mine has gone further than Facebook.
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:46 PM
Nov 2016

Mine has extended to a couple of lifelong friends and a couple of family members that I rarely see anyway. Like you, I cannot justify why or how anyone could have supported Trump. I'm in my late 50's, and as you stated, at a point where I'm not asking anyone's permission to be me! I'm comfortable with who I am and what I stand for.

Hope you enjoy a great Thanksgiving as well.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
31. It hit me like a bolt out of the blue...
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 12:02 AM
Nov 2016

" ...with Trump supporters, and what I have discovered is a lop-sided friendship. Seems I've been there for them, but I'm not so sure they have been (or would be) there for me."

after reading what you wrote it occurred to me that the only Trump supporter I know or put up with, a sort of adopted half step daughter type I took in long ago is exactly that.

To a T - as in Trump...

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
46. When I sat down and started analyzing things
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 09:45 AM
Nov 2016

I've known one person since I was a baby and have continued our friendship out of family loyalty. When I sincerely took a look
at that relationship after a discussion with her where she defended Trump, I saw things very differently. I literally made a list of the times we've interacted over the last five or ten years, and every one of them had been HER having a crisis. The times I'd needed her ear, etc., she was always too involved in keeping her husband (at the time) happy.

I made the decision to just disconnect. No drama, just permission to go forward and search for more sincere friendships.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
50. These kind of user people you should drop pronto regardless of politics
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 10:38 AM
Nov 2016

They will only really miss you the next time they need you has been my experience

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
58. That's absolutely right.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 12:36 PM
Nov 2016

But I think I was still of the mindset of trying to "go high". I knew she needed a sounding board at times, etc.

I'm no longer capable of handling that now that she has admitted to supporting that monster, nor am I interested in putting forth any effort when I run into these types. "Going high" for me from now on is going to mean avoiding the negative. As I said in an earlier post, I don't want to fight with them. Don't want the drama or the expense of energy. I just don't want to be around them.

Hope your Thanksgiving will be enjoyable!

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
59. I have almost the same situation you describe going on minus the disengagement (so far).
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 12:45 PM
Nov 2016

Me and the ex "adopted" this individual and supported her, gave her a place to live, fed her, hell, I even paid for the boob job she just had to have even though they were fine to begin with, IMHO. The girl is a clothes horse.

Happily helped raised her two kids too but when she graduated college, got a job and moved out, and for awhile there, pretty much the only time we'd hear from her was when she needed something.

My ex is still very engaged with her, almost to the point of co-dependency, and we love the "grand babies" so we decided just to not to talk politics and she doesn't either when we're together.

But all one has to do is go to her Facebook page and there it is...

Now, every time she has a "crisis", (like once a week) off goes the ex but when the ex has a problem does this individual ever jump at the chance to finally pay back some of the love she was (and still is) freely given?

I really feel like I need to point this out to a few enablers.

Anyway, too long a rant, thanks for pointing out the issue and the therapy session, lol.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
16. We don't talk politics at family gatherings--EVER.
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:00 PM
Nov 2016

That has been the rule for years. It works beautifully.

There is a lot to talk about in this world without having brawls.

TimeChaser

(5,551 posts)
17. My family's politic views
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:00 PM
Nov 2016

run the gamut from liberal to socialist. My condolences to anyone who has to deal with trumplettes this week.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
19. Maybe we should just freak them out and one-up them
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:06 PM
Nov 2016

Just say you agree and you are going to buy a gun so you can start shooting Mexicans, Muslims, black people and faggots. Then you are quitting your job so you can volunteer to build that wall. Lobby for nuking Europe and you are going to start suing anyone who disagrees with you. Grab your Auntie's pussy and just say it was locker room fun.
Then ask if that at least qualifies you to run for congress.
That should at least cause them to stop talking to you so you can focus on drinking.
It will probably help to learn a few Russian cuss words too.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
41. I'm liking this
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 02:39 AM
Nov 2016

Lol. ThT would be what they deserve.

I've seriously thought of saying since they are middle class fuckers that the home interest deduction should be done away with and also child tax credits. Right wingers have told me people should not have children if they can't afford them. No tax deductions follows that line.

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
52. Seriously, I tried the frothing-at-the-mouth right-wing bomb-throwing anti-everything blow-hard gig.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 10:50 AM
Nov 2016

For about a month not too long ago.

A few of my more liberal associates immediately saw right through it... But, the rest? Totally freaked out on it. Especially, oddly enough, the most traditionally conservative people I'm around.

It was cathartic and, well... Very liberal-a-ting.

I was ranting about privatizing everything, squashing any hint of empathy, or tolerance. Total up-by-the-bootstraps Randian Objectivist jive.

I became a regular Trumpanzee.

However, I discovered... It hurt people. People I least expected. Finally, one of the quieter of them talked with me and said that she and several others were hurt. They'd always felt safe around me. I had inspired confidence and self-esteem in them before. Now, they were losing that. I had been empowering before and now there was doubt. I felt bad.

So, I reverted back to the affable empathetic tolerant me.

However, I learned... I will NEVER give in to the genuine type of person I was portraying. This is why I'm on the Give Trump No Quarter (Just like the Repigs did to President Obama) bandwagon.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,670 posts)
20. Stab them in the eye with a serving fork?
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:07 PM
Nov 2016

OK, that's kind of harsh. If you don't want to do that I guess the thing to do is refuse to discuss politics at all.

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
23. I was kind of hoping it would involve a baseball bat and mace.
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:45 PM
Nov 2016

I guess maybe just drinking would be better idea .

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
25. Skip it.
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:48 PM
Nov 2016

Life if much easier when you stop talking to family and don't have to do any of this shit anymore.

Texasgal

(17,043 posts)
26. I just don't care anymore.
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:55 PM
Nov 2016

I plan on having a nice day with my family and having no politics discussed. My beautiful loving husband just died and I have no patience for anything other than some good food and a few laughs. In the end I still have to get up, go to work, maintain this house and provide a good and loving home for my dogs.

Live life well. Be good to one another, you never know when it'll end.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
30. I'm so sorry for your loss, Texasgal
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 12:02 AM
Nov 2016

You are so right, we never know when it'll end. We agree not to discuss politics at our family gatherings too. I hope you have a peaceful holiday.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
34. Yes Texasgal...you are right. I'm sorry for your loss.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 12:24 AM
Nov 2016

My wife has been my life for so long. If I lost her, I would try to be like you. I feel so bad you lost him. Keep on keeping on girl.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
55. That was unfair, Treestar......
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:39 AM
Nov 2016

......and unnecessarily harsh. Texasgal literally just lost her husband within the last few weeks (I remember reading her post about it), and is walking through the very fresh grief of that loss. Everyone processes grief differently, and her "I don't care anymore" has less to do with "white privilege" than it has to do with anguish.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
61. I was not aware of that
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 09:36 AM
Nov 2016

nor taking it personally. Sometime to me sharing that kind of personal information - we can't know if it's true and a way to deflect any criticism of the underlying opinion.

So taken in the abstract, the idea we can just ignore it and live our lives and not pay attention or worry is the idea I am objecting to. I think it an interesting idea and would like to address it in abstract, rather than having to ignore it out of politeness on personal grounds. Maybe another post would have been better.

I thought too of doing that - just tuning out on politics. After all, it will be stressful to see the Orange Toxin in that office and hear about what he says and does. And the racists who support him. I am white but despise white racists, especially the middle class ones who are "soft" racists, claiming they should not be considered such.

But then we can't tune out. The hope the old white racists belong to the older generation and won't be here in the future seems not to be a thing. There are plenty of young ones.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
33. That's not my problem. I'm gonna have a room full of pissed off liberals all on the exact same page.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 12:14 AM
Nov 2016

I'm at the point where, fuck, I just don't feel like talking about it.

Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

seaglass

(8,171 posts)
44. I am not convinced AT ALL that we will survive a Trump Presidency with our democracy intact.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 07:20 AM
Nov 2016

The signs are not good.

So you can imagine what I am feeling about hosting Thanksgiving with a bunch of Trump voters coming over.

The only reason I am hosting T-Day is because my dad died in September and I did not want to leave his SO alone on her first T-Day without him. I cannot wait until the day is over.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
45. Six: pay attention to your audience...
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 07:28 AM
Nov 2016

...which is not necessarily the person talking at you. There are usually bystanders for these things. Persuade where you can, plant seeds where they might grow, but don't find yourself just banging your head against a brick wall.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
47. As luck would have it . . . .
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 09:48 AM
Nov 2016

. . . at the house I'm going to, we're all on the same page about Plutocrat Pol Pot.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
51. In as calm a voice as possible, I'm going to say that I don't want to talk about the election.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 10:46 AM
Nov 2016

Those who don't respect my wishes will be met with silence.

This is a war, folks. If it has to start around our Thanksgiving dinner tables, then so be it.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
53. I say no drinking, or stay home. Drinking makes things much worse and more hostile. They call it
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 10:52 AM
Nov 2016

firewater for a reason.

sagetea

(1,368 posts)
54. Yeah...
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:37 AM
Nov 2016

I was tolerant in 2000, I'm not anymore, nope, they voted for hate and fear...that is toxic to me, don't need it in my life. The only one I would care about is my dad, and he died so, I don't care.

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