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flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
1. And he managed to see the USA finally show some respect to Cuba
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 02:55 AM
Nov 2016

with the opening created by the Obama Administration.

Kudos to Obama for making that move - it was the right thing to do.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
2. Kind if a nice way to go out, I wouldnt ming dying at 90 in my bed in a nation I ran for fifty years
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 03:08 AM
Nov 2016

that my sibling now runs in my place. He will get a wonderful send off unlike gadaffi and saddam.

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bravenak

(34,648 posts)
7. Disgust because I said he died old and in bed in his own dictatorship? Whoa Nellie!
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 04:33 AM
Nov 2016

Why did you Love Castro so much? I am super curious why facts disgust you. This is interesting as hell.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
8. Facts? I see non in your posts here.
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 04:38 AM
Nov 2016

It is interesting seeing all of the Cube experts come outta the woodwork tonite.


 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
9. Well, there is the fact that he was the first leader in Cuban history
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 04:55 AM
Nov 2016

that ever made life better for the workers and the poor.

And our leaders essentially forced him to be like that.

The imperial attitude our country always showed towards the Americas gave him no reason to believe that he could preserve the revolution's gains by any other means.

If you don't know what our country did to Latin America starting with the proclamation of the Monroe Doctrine, you should educate yourself.

At the very least, study what our country did to Nicaragua(more than once) Guatemala, Chile, Brazil(where a right-wing coup happened just months ago under the cover of a spurious "impeachment" trial-the impeachable offence being the country's then-president's then-refusal to impose a brutal austerity program), the Dominican Republic and virtually every Latin American country other than Costa Rica that dared to elect a government that put human needs before profit.


Maru Kitteh

(28,333 posts)
12. All hail the Great Leader? Lest we incur your wrath? Or, maybe he was just a flawed person
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 06:19 AM
Nov 2016

like so many. Some good, and plenty of less good, and some outright bad.

BainsBane

(53,027 posts)
10. They and their families have had bad experiences under him
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 05:24 AM
Nov 2016

DU is the worst place to discuss this because people see thinngs in entirely black or white. Castro's legacy is not so simple. He brought greater equality, education, and medical care to the island but also political repression and economic dependency on the USSR. Cuban exiles in Miami tend to loathe him because of their treatment in Cuba, from property being seized to imprisonment or even execution. There are many different waves of Cuban immigrants. Some were wealthy Cubans who left immediately after the revolution. Some were revolutionaries who faced repression when they broke from Castro. Others grew up in Communist Cuba, never had wealth, and left later for economic or political reasons, or to be reunited with family. There were a number of economic refugees following the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of subsidies, which were cut dramatically even before the end of communism in the USSR.

Second generation Cuban Americans tend to be less anti-Castro, but we do see young people celebrating in the streets. Castro's death is a symbol for the hardship their families faced.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
17. The equality he brought was of poverty.
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:03 AM
Nov 2016

A poverty he himself did not share. Castro's regime was overall bad for Cubans. There's a reason that they have to try to stop defectors.

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