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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe privatization of America is upon us
Say goodbye to public education. Say hello to vouchers for private schools.
Say goodbye to the U.S. Postal Service, a target of Republicans for decades.
(Perhaps) say goodbye to Medicare. Its at the top of Paul Ryans hit list.
(Perhaps) Social Security will be turned over to the roulette table called the New York Stock Exchange.
Virtually everything, everything, currently run by the U.S. government, and many state governments, are about to go on the bidding block. This has been the GOPs wet dream for years. And they now have the power to make it come about.
How do we fight this? We don't control the White House. We don't control the Senate. We don't control the House. We are about to lose the Supreme Court, perhaps for decades to come. A Republican majority runs two thirds of the state houses and are led by Republican governors.
Our control over any of the levers of power is minimal at best. So how do we stop, or at least stall the privatization (which could also be called the "bargain sale" of America? Beats me.
Suggestions?
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)look for all the trillions overseas coming back at a reduced rate
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)It will ever be so.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)paleotn
(17,911 posts)...that captures government to the point where you can't tell where private and public begin or end. Everything is done for a buck and the commons are long gone. Our own, American version of fascism.
brewens
(13,574 posts)The big corporations were all over it too. They even had ads assuring people that it wouldn't make it easier for underage people to buy because only retailers above a certain size would be allowed liquor sales. So the mom and pop stores and convenience stores were cut out of it.
If they were doing that, I would have liked to have seen the little guy get a piece of the action too. A couple I know that own a bar are pissed, as is about everyone else. The convenience of being able to buy a jug at the grocery store instead of the state liquor store doesn't make up for the price jump.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)far right wing think tank legislation, and will ram through things very quickly and in secrecy with little or no public awareness or input, one thing after another - undoing 100 yrs of environmental & labor protections, progressive era govt transparency laws, passing legislation to pave way to privatization of everything and anything, selling off public lands & other assets at bargain basement prices to cronies, undoing all kinds of laws to pave way to corporate and foreign ownership of our land and our aquifers (WI /great lakes states are largest fresh water reservoirs in the world), use state legal resources to obstruct and defy fed requirements, etc. etc. etc. I could go on!
Donald Trump will prove to be a useful idiot - distracting media and the public with his antics. Its like those crime shows where the thieves work in partnership - one guy distracts the clerk while the other one makes off with all the merchandise.
Sorry to be a downer but I dont know how to fight it. What Ive seen both here locally and with this past election - the most outrageous things people will initially respond with horror, but then after only a few days or weeks, after inundation with RW propaganda - its normalized, and ... guess its something that we really wanted after all.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)the concept we called "Land of the free," or "America."
Most people don't get it. And they still don't see it coming. But when it hits them, I have no idea what their reaction will be. Who will they blame? Who will they hate for their circumstance? Who will they attack?
Given the ignorance of far too many, my fear is that they will buy whatever Republican propaganda is fed to them and they will attack those who are far more down trodden than they are.
Too many on this site and elsewhere have not yet grasped the magnitude of the current disaster. All I can say is that I hope I'm wrong about all of this. But I don't think so.
boguspotus
(286 posts)This is exactly what will happen. And his followers won't care anyway, because fake news will tell them who really is to blame.
moondust
(19,972 posts)Minimum wage. Some of the nuttiest wingnuts like Michele Bachmann have not so long ago advocated getting rid of it. That alone would be a giant step backward toward slavery. I don't even like to mention it for fear they'll pick up on it and push it and decide they like it and--boom! Gone.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)The Republican attitude on this issue is "Let them eat cake," or McNuggets, or whatever.
They really don't give a rat's ass whether the peasants eat, live or die. And the irony is that so many of those "peasants" voted them into power.
paleotn
(17,911 posts)...all that will be owned and operated by an oligopoly or outright monopoly, where the government is the company and the company is the government, and the vast, vast majority of us are but cogs in the machine. The end state of unregulated capitalism.
Kind of reminds me of....
Art many times reflects reality.
kimbutgar
(21,130 posts)Or will it be Soylent green, handsmaidens tale, brave new world or 1984?
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)those tales may be the least of what we can expect from the likes of Jeff Sessions, Bannon, Guiliani, et. al.
Here's my greatest fear. "Papers, please."
And to anyone who thinks, "It can't happen here," no one thought a Trump presidency could happen here.
virgogal
(10,178 posts)Belgium is one----many others.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)Haven't you ever seen a WWII movie with Nazis in it?
"Papers bitte" is a standard line in any one of them.
Nay
(12,051 posts)into a bunch of bomb throwers. And even then, the military/police powers this country has can easily be turned on the population to quell any physical manifestations of unhappiness. Look at places like Kansas and Wisconsin. The Pubs have robbed those places blind and they still vote for them. Obviously, a large proportion of the public thinks this sort of corpo-religio-fascism is working for them. I fail to see what is making them happy, unless it's simply the act of sticking a thumb in the eye of all them damn libruls. But there you have it. They're happy with what they have done, for whatever reason. It honestly will have to just play itself out, no matter the damage, and no matter the ecocide. To me, this signals the last gasp of civilization. In 100 years we'll be scavenging in the ruins. Literally.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)They've screwed us all. So let me say this. Fuck them to hell.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Not much you can do about it now.
Prepare for the most destructive laws in US history.
And if it does not happen it will still be horrendous.
The rich gated ones will never do without but many millions will.
Jails will bulge with inmates.
Welcome to Shitlerville.