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Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 06:44 PM Nov 2016

Water has subtle properties beyond the claims of Big Pharma propaganda

In an effort to stomp out competition from natural remedies that Multinational Pharmaceutical companies feel would cut into their unchecked drug profiteering, many agents circulate narrow, outdated speculations about water and its subtle properties. Water has many properties that the limited perspective of Drug Companies has yet to acknowledge.

"Neutron scattering and computational modeling have revealed unique and unexpected behavior of water molecules under extreme confinement that is unmatched by any known gas, liquid or solid states.

"In a paper published in Physical Review Letters, researchers at the Department of Energy's Oak Ridge National Laboratory describe a new tunneling state of water molecules confined in hexagonal ultra-small channels - 5 angstrom across - of the mineral beryl. An angstrom is 1/10-billionth of a meter, and individual atoms are typically about 1 angstrom in diameter...

"The discovery... demonstrates features of water under ultra confinement in rocks, soil and cell walls, which scientists predict will be of interest across many disciplines.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2016-04-state-molecule.html#jCp

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Water has subtle properties beyond the claims of Big Pharma propaganda (Original Post) Achilleaze Nov 2016 OP
I don't have a PhD in physics (or in any discipline) etherealtruth Nov 2016 #1
Your introductory paragraph has nothing to do with the article. DavidDvorkin Nov 2016 #2
Homeopathy is not subtle HassleCat Nov 2016 #3
Might be useful when the Homeopathy scammers begin COLGATE4 Nov 2016 #4
Please do not give them any marketing ideas etherealtruth Nov 2016 #5
Are you trying to tie this to homeopathy? Bradical79 Nov 2016 #6
Looks like it. nt marybourg Nov 2016 #9
The test of any drug is whether it works in a double-blinded trial. FarCenter Nov 2016 #7
... SidDithers Nov 2016 #8
Homeopathic delocalized tunneling miracle water soon to be on the market bhikkhu Nov 2016 #10
What on earth does water in mineral crystals have MineralMan Nov 2016 #11
Fine, but this has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with pharmacology. longship Nov 2016 #12
Wait... RobinA Nov 2016 #13
WOW, what a non sequitur ! Absolutely no connection between the unverifiable woo claim in first para eppur_se_muova Nov 2016 #14

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
1. I don't have a PhD in physics (or in any discipline)
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:07 PM
Nov 2016

I am very curious regarding your interpretation and its relation to pharmacology (I could visualize the eventual development of new delivery systems). Perhaps you can share your insights into the significance, especially as it relates to homeopathy or other treatments.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
4. Might be useful when the Homeopathy scammers begin
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:54 PM
Nov 2016

to sell their product contained in rocks. But, until then...

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
5. Please do not give them any marketing ideas
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 08:00 PM
Nov 2016

I am still interested on what the OP based their introductory paragraph on? I would be interested in their explanation or their interpretation of the implications of the behavior of water molecules under extreme confinement as it relates to "alternative therapies" and big Pharma ... ?

bhikkhu

(10,711 posts)
10. Homeopathic delocalized tunneling miracle water soon to be on the market
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 08:39 PM
Nov 2016

I'm predicting, and the only customers will be those who have only the vaguest and most wrong-headed notions about the physics discussed in the article.

The physics is interesting, but the conditions under which the behavior is evident are extreme; close to zero chance that there is any medical application or implication.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
11. What on earth does water in mineral crystals have
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 08:48 PM
Nov 2016

to do with homeopathy? I'm pretty sure you didn't actually understand that article at all. Water is a mineral. As a crystalline solid, it crystallizes in the hexagonal system of crystallization, like many other minerals, including beryl, which you showed in your image. That has been known since the beginnings of the science of crystallography.

That has nothing whatever to do with homeopathy. There is no connection. It is simply the crystal system of the mineral we call water. Physics.

longship

(40,416 posts)
12. Fine, but this has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with pharmacology.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 08:56 PM
Nov 2016

And magic homeopathic water still does not work.

There. I fixed the OP.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
14. WOW, what a non sequitur ! Absolutely no connection between the unverifiable woo claim in first para
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 10:32 PM
Nov 2016

and the actual, seriously scientific article cited. None.

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