Trump supporter banned for life from Delta flights after rant

[dixiegrrrrl]

The Delta passenger who launched into a pro-Donald Trump rant mid-flight last week has been banned from flying the airline.

"He will never again be allowed on a Delta plane,” reads an internal memo from Delta Air Lines CEO Edward Bastian, dated Nov. 28 and obtained by CNBC News.

Last week, a video circulated online of a man yelling at other passengers about the president-elect and Hillary Clinton, Trump's Democratic rival for the White House.

“We got some Hillary bitches on here?” the man asked in the video.
“It’s your president. Every goddam one of you. If you don’t like it, too bad."

The memo also said it is refunding the fare costs to the passengers who were on the flight.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/307680-trump-supporter-banned-for-life-from-delta-planes-after-disruptive-rant

video at link

[radical noodle]

1. I am so glad to see they did something about him

I worried that this would become the norm.

[muntrv]

2. Too bad somone didn't yell "LET'S ROLL" and take down this jerk.

[Siwsan]

3. Good.

People as unstable as that guy demonstrated himself to be, should be on a watch list.

I don't remember reading if this happened before departure or during the flight, but the passengers seemed to be doing a great job of ignoring him. However, I can't believe that the flight attendants didn't immediately jump in to intervene.

I'm flying Delta, next month, connecting out of Atlanta. I hope this will deter anymore deplorables from going on a vile harangue at a very captive audience, but they are pretty clueless.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

54. As I understand it, this happened before departure

while the plane was still at the gate. If so, the flight attendants (3 on a B-717, I think) would probably have been near the forward door of the plane helping the passengers board and preparing the galley, and the pilots would have been busy, too - the captain would be in the flight deck getting the plane configured and the first officer would have been outside doing the exterior preflight check. If the crew were busy at the forward end of the airplane they might not have heard the guy's rant at all, and didn't intervene until someone complained. If they didn't actually witness the outburst, they might not have felt comfortable 86-ing the guy. I think they should have, but I'm also glad Delta made it right for the passengers who had to put up with that behavior, and that they banished the d-bag from future flights.

[Siwsan]

58. If you get banned by one airline, do the other airlines get notified?

I know you don't automatically get banned from them all, but I think it would be erring on the side of caution to have a shared list of problem passengers.

[Statistical]

55. Good but still curious as to why the flight crew felt this was acceptable behavior.

I mean people have been bounced for quietly texting in Arabic and this guy gets to go on a rant for minutes and resume his seat. Come one Delta train your crews a little better or fire them and replace them with people who are competent.

[Siwsan]

56. Same here. I feel like we're missing a piece of the story

Although it sounds like he was removed from his seat, for a while, and probably 'talked' to, he should have immediately been escorted off of that plane.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

59. See #54. If the crew didn't witness the behavior maybe they didn't think

they should (or could) remove him. It sounds like he got a talking-to (giving the FAs the opportunity to decide whether he was drunk, in which case he would have been removed), and made to understand he had to sit down and shut up for the duration of the flight, but of course I agree that they should have booted him. I'm guessing from their memo that Delta will make it clearer to their employees that they need to be willing to remove passengers for that sort of behavior on the basis of passengers' complaints. Maybe other airlines (and other potentially assholish passengers) will get the message, too, on account of all the publicity this incident generated.

[Siwsan]

60. I wonder if the 'banned' list is shared among the airlines

I would think every airline would want to know if a potential passenger had caused problems with another carrier.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

61. I don't know.

Maybe each airline has its own criteria for who's too much of an asshole to fly on their planes? I'm not sure if it's even legal to disclose passenger names. Some discussion here: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39919229/ns/travel-news/t/can-bad-in-flight-behavior-land-you-no-fly-list/#.WDzL0KIrKRs

[Siwsan]

63. Thanks.

One of the places that I go far out of my way to be courteous and on my very best behavior is on an airplane and in an airport. It can be stressful enough without bringing on more agro!

[Lifelong Protester]

4. Good-he should be banned.

And Delta has enough money to refund the other tickets.

I do not want to hear that this sort of sh** is being 'normalized''.

[hamsterjill]

9. Me, either.

While I believe that the passengers on that particular flight probably did the best thing by ignoring this prick, I'm not sure that I would have had the self-control to do that.

No one should be subjected to this type of behavior in an environment anywhere - much less in an environment where they have paid hard earned bucks to be. This sh** needs to get nipped in the bud, and I applaud Delta for putting this out.

[barbtries]

15. we were just talking about this at work.

i wanted someone to tell him off. When I said i didn't know if i would have the guts, she said, "you would. oh yeah, you would." I took it as a compliment but still don't know if it's true.

[narnian60]

43. Well said.

[Old Vet]

47. Oh I so agree, I dont think I could of sat there while he disrespected everyone....

[Auggie]

5. Delta comes through!

I'd love to see that douchebag banned on all flights

[Arkansas Granny]

6. I'm going out on a limb here and guessing that he has at least one confederate flag displayed

at his residence.

[LonePirate]

7. I'm guessing he's the type who travels by air only once or twice a decade.

This ban, while warranted, is symbolic only. He should have been escorted off the plane.

[CincyDem]

52. Actually - I like that he wasn't escorted from the plane.

While I understand the appropriateness and why you say that - I go a different direction. To escort him off the plane would have been a statement by the captain (since that's who would have the final say). I like that this decision to ban him for life from a Delta plane was taken at a much more substantial level. It wasn't just a single pilot exercising his judgment in the moment - it was the entire Delta system saying "Nope - not going to be tolerated on ANY of our flights".

And this guy might only be a once a year traveler, the next guy who thinks he should teach the HRC bitches a lesson in the air might be a twice a month business guy living in a city that is Delta heavy. Hit him with a lifetime ban and it's gonna hurt, as it should.

This sets the standard and, at least to me, is a lot more than symbolic...it's systemic.

Additionally, every delta employee knows now that the company has their back. It's a learning curve but I think the lesson here is less for the asshat and more for the pilots and attendants who are going to be on the front line.

[whopis01]

64. I agree.

You escort someone off and let them return when you think their behavior was a one-time incident. Like being drunk and unruly.

You ban them for life when you know the behavior won't change.

[SpankMe]

14. I'm going out on a limb here and guessing he has at least one confederate flag...

...tattooed to his ass.

[Arkansas Granny]

34. Thanks a lot! Now I have that image tattooed on my brain!

[malaise]

36. He can fly on that now

[spanone]

8. trump will probably give him a permanent seat on AF1

fuck this guy

[HughBeaumont]

10. Message deleted by DU the Administrators

[Demit]

11. What is a sisterhumper?

[HAB911]

16. Really?

He meant daughterhumper

[HughBeaumont]

19. That thunderin' hick deserves worse.

POS.

The reason he continued to be an asshole is because he knew no passenger would stop him, as they would get arrested.

This is how assholes are empowered - an audience and knowledge that anyone who fucks with them is legally going down also.

[Demit]

22. Really what?

[HAB911]

26. Really you don't know, can't guess what a sisterhumper is?

There are many humorless posting here.

TOO FUNNY

[HughBeaumont]

17. A pejorative for a Trump voter.

And for those "this sort of thing isn't helping" people . . . read this loud and clear:

[font size="14"]DON'T CARE.[/font]

My child's health care, my nephew's and niece's safety and my relative's and friend's human rights are not up for negotiation.

I don't care to engage with people who don't take this country or their leadership seriously.

[HAB911]

21. DITTO. nt

[Demit]

24. I notice you don't have any sisters.

[LanternWaste]

29. I notice you don't address the major point of the OP

I notice you don't address the major point of the OP and the thread, and are concentrating on one and only one irrelevancy...

[Demit]

49. I'm addressing the gutter language that disparages women.

[HughBeaumont]

31. I do.

And a wife. And a mother. And a niece.

Precisely why I voted for Hillary even though I'm not a supporter. When there are unqualified know-nothings threatening to subterfuge human rights, you drop the nonsense.

Plus I have a functioning Prefontal Cortex.

[plimsoll]

39. Found it odd

That the person who shot the video's name was released immediately, but this guy has to be crowd sourced? Isn't this part of the problem. They've gamed the system, because fundamentally they don't share those actual core beliefs.

They are "innocent until proven guilty." Ask yourself is that reciprocated? If so why does "the right to face their accusers" become the right to have their fellow travelers attack and intimidate their accusers.

The things that made us great have been used by the people who actually do hate our freedoms to destroy the republic.

[SpankMe]

12. Some points, here:

1. If this ever happens in your presence, don't respond with a spirited Hillary defense. It may get you a ban from an airline as well. I was thinking (fantasizing) about how I would respond by getting all up in his face. I'd have been banned as well, probably.

2. Good for Delta for responding forcefully to an event that obviously made a whole lot of people very uncomfortable.

3. Trump and his supporters are the poorest winners I've ever seen. Losing the popular vote by 2M votes, losing seats in the Senate, losing a few in the house - you'd think an air of modesty or humility would swirl around the Republican establishment. But, it ain't so!

[barbtries]

18. may not be able to take your number 1.

bullshit should be challenged imo.

[dixiegrrrrl]

48. If I were on the plane when that heppened

I would tell the cabin crew that I was afraid for my life because an obviously deranged person is acting unhinged and we have no idea what else
he is capable of.

Thereby almost forcing their hand to do something to a potential terrorist...
I don't care if it is yelling for 45 minutes in a Wal-Mart about being discriminated about
or in an airplane
that is crazy behavior and crazy people do unpredictable things
therefore..........etc.

[Kingofalldems]

13. What a hick.

[NRaleighLiberal]

20. newest candidate for a Dump cabinet post!

[jpak]

23. Ha Ha - douchebag

yup

[brooklynite]

25. A UNITED pilot takes a different approach...

[3catwoman3]

44. That was so civil that I am going to hazard a guess...

...that the pilot is a Democrat.

[oberliner]

27. Pays to take video of everything

Seems to be the only way to hold people accountable for anything.

[Tikki]

28. He'll start 'go fund me' to show who is boss. trump lovers can tithe these a**ho*es like a church.

Tikki

[Hulk]

30. Wish he was banned from ALL public airline flights.

A shame the public has to share space with such an arrogant asshole on another airline.
But good on Delta.

[HughBeaumont]

32. He travels a lot for his job.

I don't see how that happens now.

[hamsterjill]

33. If he was traveling as an employee at the time of his rant,

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It would be interesting to see if a good lawyer could make a case against the employer for a passenger's mental anguish.

A stretch, I know. But a rich company might pay to have a claim go away. Then, they might think twice about hiring blowhards like this.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

41. If he was traveling as an employee his employer should discipline him as well

Any responsible employer would.

[hamsterjill]

46. Oh, absolutely!

Goes without saying. Now that he's been identified, it will be interesting to see how his employer responds.

[jmowreader]

50. He travels for his job...dressed like that?

[whopis01]

65. I travel for work dressed like that all the time.

Do you have a problem with that?

Or do you just look down on someone because they are wearing a t-shirt and jeans?

[suffragette]

35. He did this to intimidate the other passengers. Glad Delta is taking this action against him and

Drawing the line that this type of behavior will not be tolerated on their flights.

[oasis]

37. That's one deplorable I won't have to chew out when I fly Delta.

thanks Delta.

[wordpix]

38. jackass. Thank you, Delta

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

40. Maybe voting for Trump should put one on the no fly list

Not going to happen but one could wish.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

42. If Trump won, why are his supporters such "sore winners"?

[trueblue2007]

45. THE other people on the plane should have beat him up !!

[pangaia]

51. What's his name?

[Gothmog]

53. This video was mentioned on AMJOY on Saturday

AMJOY refused to show the video and I can see why. This guy deserves to be banned

[Warren DeMontague]

57. If instead it had been one of those AA women "guilty" of rolling her eyes at a flight attendant

or not "following crew member instructions" quickly enough, you know she would have been thrown off the plane, tackled and put in the plastic cuffs, etc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/woman-claims-she-was-kicked-off-a-plane-for-flyingwhileblack_us_56fbda3de4b0a06d58041952

[moondust]

62. Thank you NBC Nightly News

for covering this story.