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I discerned a change in the coverage today--the media outlets are suddenly calling a spade a spade:
"Trump Falsely Claims Popular Vote Win" (CNN)
"Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally, Citing No Evidence" (NYT)
"Trump Makes Unfounded Claim . . . ." (NPR)
Seems that Trump has finally stepped over the line with such an outrageous claim that the media have collectively abandoned their usual false equivalency approach for instead just rolling their eyebrows. About time.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)The 'meeediah will turn again...
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)No faith in them AT ALL.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)I hope this represents a new turn for the media. They don't need to demonize Trump but if he spouts off bullshit then for the love of the country CALL HIM OUT ON IT. Loudly, harshly, quickly AND EVERY SINGLE TIME!
pbmus
(12,418 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,827 posts)after he pulled that stunt to have a press conference in August, but really to promote a new trump hotel. (emphasis on start to) However, by that time, it was too late and the monster they had created had grown too big to stop.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)The blame falls squarely on Jeff Zucker and CNN.
Without them, Trump's joke candidacy would never made it past Iowa.
pansypoo53219
(20,906 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 10h10 hours ago
I thought that @CNN would get better after they failed so badly in their support of Hillary Clinton however, since election, they are worse!
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 10h10 hours ago
The Great State of Michigan was just certified as a Trump WIN giving all of our MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN supporters another victory - 306!
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 18h18 hours ago
.@CNN is so embarrassed by their total (100%) support of Hillary Clinton, and yet her loss in a landslide, that they don't know what to do.
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 19h19 hours ago
"@sdcritic: @HighonHillcrest @jeffzeleny @CNN There is NO QUESTION THAT #voterfraud did take place, and in favor of #CorruptHillary !"
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 19h19 hours ago
"@FiIibuster: @jeffzeleny Pathetic - you have no sufficient evidence that Donald Trump did not suffer from voter fraud, shame! Bad reporter.
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 19h19 hours ago
"@JoeBowman12: @jeffzeleny just another generic CNN part time wannabe journalist !" @CNN still doesn't get it. They will never learn!
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 19h19 hours ago
"@HighonHillcrest: @jeffzeleny what PROOF do u have DonaldTrump did not suffer from millions of FRAUD votes? Journalist? Do your job! @CNN"
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whathehell
(28,968 posts)a catastrophe like Trump to finally get them to do their jobs.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)demosincebirth
(12,518 posts)putitinD
(1,551 posts)galvanize them.
Warpy
(110,901 posts)He's on his way to becoming the most unpopular president in US history even before he enters office.
Even his supporters are mostly sober and subdued.
The rest are getting kicked out of stores and off airlines.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Warpy
(110,901 posts)than breathlessly reporting every belch and scratch with maximum adoration.
Hekate
(90,189 posts)Why now? Why not a year ago? Why not 6 months ago? Why the hell not a month ago?
calimary
(80,693 posts)stating the WAY-more-than-obvious about dubya, with such ridiculous nonsense headlines as "Prevaricating President?" That's as close as ANY of 'em came to calling george w. dry drunk a liar. And it took years even to get that far. What a disgrace.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,066 posts)They finally did it after Katrina.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 10h10 hours ago
I thought that @CNN would get better after they failed so badly in their support of Hillary Clinton however, since election, they are worse!
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 10h10 hours ago
The Great State of Michigan was just certified as a Trump WIN giving all of our MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN supporters another victory - 306!
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 18h18 hours ago
.@CNN is so embarrassed by their total (100%) support of Hillary Clinton, and yet her loss in a landslide, that they don't know what to do.
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 19h19 hours ago
"@sdcritic: @HighonHillcrest @jeffzeleny @CNN There is NO QUESTION THAT #voterfraud did take place, and in favor of #CorruptHillary !"
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 19h19 hours ago
"@FiIibuster: @jeffzeleny Pathetic - you have no sufficient evidence that Donald Trump did not suffer from voter fraud, shame! Bad reporter.
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 19h19 hours ago
"@JoeBowman12: @jeffzeleny just another generic CNN part time wannabe journalist !" @CNN still doesn't get it. They will never learn!
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 19h19 hours ago
"@HighonHillcrest: @jeffzeleny what PROOF do u have DonaldTrump did not suffer from millions of FRAUD votes? Journalist? Do your job! @CNN"
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Hekate
(90,189 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)to ask themselves whether Trump is careless, thick-brained, or both.
For my part, I'm leaning toward 'both.'
If only we could all ask Fabio for his take on all this...
New Orleans Strong
(212 posts)That was pretty good.
pbmus
(12,418 posts)When it quacks like a duck, it ain't a chicken, it's the Trumpster ...
sheshe2
(83,334 posts)tavernier
(12,322 posts)Sorry... that's the grammar thingy that makes me break out in hives.
Thanks for being patient with my neurosis.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)If one thinks the so called Media will really report the facts,well it is not going to happen. We are seeing the Raygun White House all over again only on Roid's.
What we saw today was just a head fake,this is all about the Privileged and Magic Sperm Club,and you darn well know,the Propaganda Machine counts the clicks and eyeballs,and if the numbers start to falter,they just crank it up a notch or two.
These suckers have to keep the lie going,and you will get some fake push back only when it suits their needs.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)And they will live to regret it when his promises are not kept.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Unless/until we get a trust-busting Pres. with a Congress that will back him/her, it will be thus.
ffr
(22,645 posts)The M$M helped in the dumbing down of Trump's incompetencies by making and keeping it a horse race. Where they fkucked us, is they made an error, like we all did, in betting that polls would hold true.
If there are no anomalies in the election machine audits, it could be the downfall of our great nation. I say could. I mean, will.
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)More ads, more money.
It's one thing to report on the obvious and another to really hit hard on covering Trump, his conflicts of interests, how his cabinet is shaping up to be a danger to country.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)This wouldn't even make the top 10 of his claims.
berksdem
(594 posts)And his minions will eat up like it was free chocolate cake. IMO, nothing new here... Same old #Drumpf.... We should all get used to this garbage bc we have 4 more years or more of this crap.
FuzzyRabbit
(1,958 posts)that will be a change in how the news perceives Trump.
Only a small percent of Americans get their news from CNN, NPR and the NYT. Nearly all Americans get their news from the big three networks and local news shows. They still report on Trump as if he was a conventional politician.
UTUSN
(70,496 posts)spanone
(135,632 posts)TeamPooka
(24,155 posts)the NY Times and Wash Post
Trump knows how to divert attention from the man behind the curtain.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)so what are you talking about?
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)ananda
(28,782 posts)The media is basically Reep friendly.
I think the Reeps are scared shitless of a close vote/election integrity
investigation where the vote was rigged for Trump and the Reeps.
Chakab
(1,727 posts)pushback continuing after inauguration. The media is owned by corporations, and they only care about ratings, advertising dollars and access.
Look for the normalization of Trump to commence in late January.
marked50
(1,350 posts)Persondem
(1,936 posts)not care in the least.
kebob
(499 posts)Trump is the shark!
lostnfound
(16,138 posts)Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)Will they continue to try to undo the monster they helped create or will they roll over and suck up for ratings?
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)"Trump has jumped the shark."
Sadly, how many times will we all be posting that headline in future?
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)Dr. Mullion Blasto
(104 posts)applegrove
(118,013 posts)whether something is true or false is salient in the news.
JHB
(37,128 posts)Bigly!
SleeplessinSoCal
(8,994 posts)0rganism
(23,855 posts)Trump's core supporters view anything evaluative from consensus reality media as pure lies, for example
"Trump Falsely Claims Popular Vote Win" (CNN) ==> "Trump Truly Claims Popular Vote Win"
"Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally, Citing No Evidence" (NYT) ==> "Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally, Citing Irrefutable Evidence"
"Trump Makes Unfounded Claim . . . ." (NPR) ==> "Trump Makes Well-founded Claim"
and his not-so-core supporters are going to go along with this while they have something to gain from it.
this is where we are now. the media are in a mad scramble for survival in this new age where Trump might just install Alex Jones as press secretary. what will they have to do to maintain access without sacrificing audience share? don't count on the press to help us out with this monster, ever.
Demonaut
(8,909 posts)on edit....not enough cared
niyad
(112,432 posts)this mess, you craven, pandering assholes.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Wearing a raw-meat-covered wet suit. Which would answer the questions: 1) do sharks eat their own; and 2) would sharks have trouble holding down an Orange Happy Meal?
Nay
(12,051 posts)Old joke. But still funny.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)AleksS
(1,665 posts)And not a moment too soon!
Thank goodness for their excellent timing!
I heard a saying once about barn doors and doing something after your horses have already escaped.
Watching a puffy, small-handed, horse's ass gallop across the countryside makes me think that saying is appropriate here.
Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)Turn the TV off!! Do not by any means turn the news on. We have to make them suffer financially
It CAN work.look what Sandra Fluke did to ol rush lintball
nolabels
(13,133 posts)I actually get nauseous when i get stuck in some place where that crap is on
bucolic_frolic
(42,663 posts)The fear is palpable amongst Democrats that I've spoken to, and
uncertainty is dawning on the deplorables, at least some of them,
though I doubt many of them knew what they were voting for.
'Change' was all they heard. Gutting the social safety net uncovers
long term financial considerations for households, even solvent ones.
I still say recession in 6 to 9 months. Consumerism rings hollow when
your country is being politically ransacked.
IrishEyes
(3,275 posts)They needed to make it look like a close race to sell papers or get viewers. The media like everyone else didn't expect him to actually win the electoral vote. Now that the election is over, they will report on him. They have no reason not to report all of the evil, crazy, stupid things that he will say and do. It will get viewers which will make money. Since it is a given that Trump will be a complete train wreck, people are going to be tuning in to see everything. More and more of his supporters will turn from him when he does not deliver on his promises and actually makes their lives much worse. He is still surprised and pissed off that Hamilton and Saturday Night Live "attacked" him.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)I would love to know exactly what he said to the Who's Who of media celebrities. Whatever it was, the press is going full on Watergate on his sorry ass.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,815 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)a good job. But vigorous reporting and investigation isn't generally characteristic of cable news or most print media, especially mainstream entities.
There are a lot of people in the GOP who are not directly criticizing Trump but (I'm guessing) likely don't like him either. They want control of their party back, even though they lost it long ago, shooting themselves in the foot by letting the far right religious kooks in the front door.
Now they see that control of their party is in the hands of a brainless egomaniac. They can't control him. Events may conspire to undermine a Trump presidency, but other events may conspire to glorify it. It's a gambler's finish, and there's no help for it at the moment.
The Democratic Party could use some writers -- good ones -- who can frame the issues confronting the electorate. 'Stronger Together' is not a particularly motivating phrase. We need good writers to write ads for a nationwide campaign emphasizing the timeless merit of public education, public transportation, and sound public health.
Trump's administration will attack all three of those things with all they've got. Let's defend the fort.
mopinko
(69,806 posts)the story now could be the horse croaks on the way to the winners circle, or has to be shot.
big money in that story line.
a constitutional crisis would be great for the bottom line.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)They need to inform the public we elected an outright nut job. Rolling eyebrows will not get the message across.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)RiverStone
(7,228 posts)I'm afraid this damage won't be reversed for years. Who holds the news machine accountible?
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,190 posts)DFW
(54,051 posts)For that matter, has anyone explained to him that the speech is NOT for the purpose of having him brag about his bedroom activities?
wordpix
(18,652 posts)DFW
(54,051 posts)Has anyone told him he can't?
wordpix
(18,652 posts)it won't happen
mwooldri
(10,291 posts)I don't know what tops jumping the shark but Trump has done it.... and he hasn't been sworn in yet.