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ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 03:18 PM Nov 2016

trump's bizarre ties to conspiracy theorist Alex Jones

If you haven't heard of Alex Jones, his website Infowars is required reading for conspiracy theorists of all stripes, from the 911 truthers to the people who think the San Bernadino shootings and Sandy Hook killings never happened to the claim that Obama is a Muslim.

Jones' claims often are trumpeted by trump the next day, and picked up by the media, but the media rarely notes the connection.

The latest is trump's claim that barring "3 million votes by illegal immigrants for Hillary" he would have won in a "landslide".
All the main steam media point out that there is zero evidence for the claim.

but what they don't point out, is that trump's story follows a story in Alex Jones' Infowars, headlined: “Report: Three Million Votes In Presidential Election Cast By Illegal Aliens,”

from the article in Media Matters:

"Trump adopting a conspiracy from Jones and Infowars is not out of the ordinary. The relationship between the politician and the conspiracy theorist has flourished for months.
Trump appeared on Jones’ radio/internet show in December of 2015 and praised him for his “amazing” reputation. Trump’s informal adviser, Republican dirty trickster Roger Stone, has been a regular contributor to Jones’ radio program for months and the two have made joint appearances at pro-Trump events.

In an October speech attacking “global financial powers” while using anti-Semitic tropes and dog whistles, Trump was parroting an argument that Jones has used for years.

After Jones said Trump should begin complaining the election was “rigged,” Trump began making similar complaints on the campaign trail.

When Trump alleged that President Obama was “the founder of ISIS,” he was echoing Jones, whose website once wrote that “the Obama administration has been backing ISIS since the beginning.”

After Trump delivered his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention, Jones saw so much of his rhetoric included that he bragged on his radio show that Trump was “totally synced” with him and his conspiratorial world view. Following Trump’s victory, Jones claimed that Trump called him to “thank” Jones’ audience and promised to appear on his show in the near future.

This latest outburst shows that the two men remain in sync, and it’s time for the media to let the public know who is pulling the next president’s strings."


https://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/11/28/trump-s-fake-election-claims-came-conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-media-isn-t-reporting/214635

and from Mother Jones:
"Trump himself has used the site's (Alex Jones') work to bolster way-out claims, including his references to Clinton's alleged poor health and his false assertion that "thousands and thousands" of American Muslims were celebrating the 9/11 attacks in New Jersey. Trump appeared on Jones' internet-based talk show in December 2015 and told him, "Your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down." Roger Stone, a longtime Trump adviser and a conspiracy theorist who claims LBJ killed JFK, has often appeared on Infowars, and he held joint events with Jones at the Republican convention in Cleveland in July. At that convention, Jones had "special guest" credentials."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/trump-alex-jones-conspiracy-illegal-votes

This is kinda like the So Korean Pres. and her swami girlfriend, except worse!
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trump's bizarre ties to conspiracy theorist Alex Jones (Original Post) ellenrr Nov 2016 OP
I wish the MSM had some guts get the red out Nov 2016 #1
The title to this OP needs one more... 3catwoman3 Nov 2016 #2
Pretty sure he knows what he's doing WMDemocract Nov 2016 #3
Is this the new normal? WMDemocract Nov 2016 #4
Matt Drudge gave Alex Jones credibility by starting to link to his articles several years ago Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #5
Republicans don't listen to the MSM and that's scary. Initech Nov 2016 #6

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
1. I wish the MSM had some guts
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 03:40 PM
Nov 2016

This connection needed to be made public, and still needs to be made more public. It's insane! Alex Jones says Sandy Hook was a "false flag" operation, he is a maniacal opportunist. No wonder he and Trump are in sync.

3catwoman3

(23,965 posts)
2. The title to this OP needs one more...
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 09:33 PM
Nov 2016

...word - Trump's bizarre ties to bizarre conspiracy theorist, Alex Jones.

Alex Jones is flat out insane, or damn good at pretending he is.

WMDemocract

(36 posts)
3. Pretty sure he knows what he's doing
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 03:59 PM
Nov 2016

I think he knows what he's doing. He acts calmly in some interviews and bat sh*t crazy in others. He's most likely an actor making money and gaining influence by leveraging fear, paranoia and gullibility.

http://www.factandmyth.com/conspiracy-theory/alex-jones-infowars-and-sandy-hook

WMDemocract

(36 posts)
4. Is this the new normal?
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 04:04 PM
Nov 2016

I know adherence to facts and reason were already on the decline, but will Trump bring us to an all-new low? Is the new normal a President who just makes up facts as he goes along, with the broad majority of "his party" going along with it because "at least he's not Hillary"? After years of laughing at the tinfoil hat crowd, they now seem to have one of their own in office.

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
5. Matt Drudge gave Alex Jones credibility by starting to link to his articles several years ago
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 04:15 PM
Nov 2016

Drudge actually came onto the InfoWars set and gave an ultra rare interview. Jones has been the 800 pound gorilla in the conspiracy movement for about 15 years now. The real hardcore neo nazis and white nationalists hate Jones, they call him a gate keeper and a zionist.

Jones also is a HUGE con artist, (probably why the Trumpster dumpster loves him) who has made millions pushing pills, powders, doomsday food to his flock of paranoid lunatics.



Initech

(100,054 posts)
6. Republicans don't listen to the MSM and that's scary.
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 04:20 PM
Nov 2016

There was a time they used to, but since the time of Nixon and Reagan that is no longer the case. The hate bubble has been building for 40 years and Infowars and Breitbart didn't help things. Hopefully it bursts soon.

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