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So In Texas Women Will Have To Schedule A Funeral Even For Miscarriage?? (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Nov 2016 OP
It boggles the mind Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2016 #1
Bastards should be made to hold a funeral randr Nov 2016 #2
Only if the miscarriage is soon enough that Ilsa Nov 2016 #3
So much for "limited government" emulatorloo Nov 2016 #4
They are limited government! GWC58 Nov 2016 #10
Enforcement Lotusflower70 Nov 2016 #5
I seriously doubt the US will survive over the coming years as a democracy. Given the strong RKP5637 Nov 2016 #6
I am not aware of any federal or state mandated ceremony for any burial or cremation Siwsan Nov 2016 #7
law exempts women who abort or miscarry at home HAB911 Nov 2016 #8
This can kill you. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #11
I expect (and will support) massive ignoring of this ridiculous law. Paladin Nov 2016 #9
Stockholm Syndrome? Initech Nov 2016 #12
Abusive even by Texas standards Shoonra Nov 2016 #13
Women Are Set Up For Investigation And Prosecution Over End Of Their Pregnancy. TheMastersNemesis Nov 2016 #14

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
3. Only if the miscarriage is soon enough that
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:19 AM
Nov 2016

You don't need a D&C to scrape out the holy conceptus. If the miscarriage is more like a bad period, then the holy conceptus will be flushed away, inanimately clinging to toklet paper.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
10. They are limited government!
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:35 AM
Nov 2016

At least when it's something they agree on. Guns? Small! A woman's choice? Big, over reaching, government! The choice to put what you choose in your body, such as cannabis? Big, intrusive, over reaching government!! I hope I'm wrong, but after 20 January I expect to see the heavy hand of law enforcement to come down, and come down hard!

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
5. Enforcement
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:25 AM
Nov 2016

Who is going to be enforcing this garbage? And where can I donate to help the women? Are PP and Naral setting aside funds for this?

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
6. I seriously doubt the US will survive over the coming years as a democracy. Given the strong
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:29 AM
Nov 2016

foothold the republicans now have and the weakness of democrats, they will creep into every corner.

Siwsan

(26,248 posts)
7. I am not aware of any federal or state mandated ceremony for any burial or cremation
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:30 AM
Nov 2016

These people are just plain crazy. They don't give a rip about anything but humiliating and punishing the woman.

HAB911

(8,867 posts)
8. law exempts women who abort or miscarry at home
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:30 AM
Nov 2016

The law exempts women who abort or miscarry at home, after all. If a woman starts to miscarry at home, but knows she may be forced to pay for funeral services if she goes to a hospital for help, she might stay at home and hope that the failing pregnancy works itself out on its own.

There’s already significant evidence that a large number of Texas women are turning to DIY abortion methods rather than going to a doctor. The most popular method is using misoprostol, a drug that can induce miscarriage, either bought over the counter in neighboring Mexico or bought from a black-market dealer who buys in bulk and brings it over the border. While misoprostol is relatively safe and effective, women who take it still run the danger of an incomplete miscarriage and infection, which is why doctors would prefer it be taken under medical supervision.

But if going to a doctor means you need to hire funeral services for what looks, to the naked eye, exactly like the tissue from a heavy menstrual period, many women may be tempted to go the black-market route.

It appears there’s no limit on how bizarre Texas conservatives are willing to go, if it means making abortion more fraught or miserable for women. Now the anti-abortion crusaders are willing to punish women who suffer unwanted miscarriages, if it gets the zealots closer to their goal.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
11. This can kill you.
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:38 AM
Nov 2016

I once had a miscarriage...had the misfortune to live in Georgia and had a right to life doctor...he waited for bloodwork...I hemorrhaged at home and was rushed to the hospital where this doctor put me in a room by myself with no treatment ...still waiting for the blood work. Luckily, hubs came home from his trip and rushed to the hospital where he found me unconscious in a pool of blood. He fired the doctor and a young resident saved my life. It is worth noting that under current law, I would have died most likely...untold amounts of blood, three weeks in the hospital and I could not have other children. I had to get a hepatitis and aids test every six months...still can't give blood.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
9. I expect (and will support) massive ignoring of this ridiculous law.
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:31 AM
Nov 2016

Hell, even Texas funeral directors are against this measure by the Christian Taliban.

Shoonra

(518 posts)
13. Abusive even by Texas standards
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:12 PM
Nov 2016

Many religions common in America do not regard a miscarriage as person entitled to a funeral or the attention due a living person who died. By requiring this sort of attention to a miscarriage, Texas is imposing the strictures of a very few religions on everyone, and at enormous expense.

Even at a pet cemetery a cremation costs well above $100, usually in the neighborhood of $200.

Apart from the very considerable expense and inconvenience (and stress), falling on a woman whose just lost her pregnancy, keep in mind that the large number of miscarriages contrasted to the small number of crematories could lead to a logjam of fetuses awaiting cremation, a considerable biomedical risk to the general community.

There is already a serious problem of too many women failing to get adequate prenatal care, but this law will actually encourage more women to avoid seeing a doctor for prenatal care, for fear that even if the pregnancy is unsuccessful the doctor's report will cause them devastating expense.

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