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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 03:58 PM Nov 2016

Trump's statements about flag-burning: Clinton co-sponsored "Flag Protection Act" of 2005

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_Protection_Act_of_2005
The Flag Protection Act of 2005 was a proposed United States federal law introduced in the United States Senate at the 109th United States Congress on October 24, 2005, by Senator Bob Bennett (R-Utah) and co-sponsored by Senator Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.).
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The law would have prohibited burning or otherwise destroying and damaging the US flag...It called for a punishment of no more than one year in prison and a fine of no more than $100,000;


Perfect illustration of the FUBAR election 2016
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Trump's statements about flag-burning: Clinton co-sponsored "Flag Protection Act" of 2005 (Original Post) uhnope Nov 2016 OP
Neither party is above exploiting ugly nationalistic urges loyalsister Nov 2016 #1
2005 was a time of forced hyper-nationalism and authoritarian tendencies. Oneironaut Nov 2016 #2
The act she co-sponsored was IF the burning would cause riots OKNancy Nov 2016 #3
and destruction of other's property or federal property bigtree Nov 2016 #5
You missed (accidently, no doubt) relevant detail of the act in question... LanternWaste Nov 2016 #4
Here are a ouple other obvious things HassleCat Nov 2016 #6
This! nt Laffy Kat Nov 2016 #7

Oneironaut

(5,491 posts)
2. 2005 was a time of forced hyper-nationalism and authoritarian tendencies.
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 04:01 PM
Nov 2016

It's starting to feel that way again.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
5. and destruction of other's property or federal property
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 04:07 PM
Nov 2016

...besides. the threat to citizenship is all Trump's. That's what should disturb folks, not something private citizen Clinton said or did in the past.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
4. You missed (accidently, no doubt) relevant detail of the act in question...
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 04:05 PM
Nov 2016

to prohibit: (1) destroying or damaging a U.S. flag with the primary purpose and intent to incite or produce imminent violence or a breach of the peace
(2) intentionally threatening or intimidating any person, or group of persons, by burning a U.S. flag; or
(3) stealing or knowingly converting the use of a U.S. flag belonging to the United States, or belonging to another person on U.S. lands, and intentionally destroying or damaging that flag.

Hence, if the flag is yours, you're not attempting to incite a riot or intimidating anyone, it is fine under the act to burn a flag. I understand how easy it is to miss the glaringly obvious if it doesn't fit our narrative.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
6. Here are a ouple other obvious things
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 04:58 PM
Nov 2016

1. Inciting violence by any means is already a crime, so the flag thing just adds another criminal charge. Same goes for stealing a flag, threatening someone etc.
2. This is typical pandering to patriotic fervor. Or perhaps it's just an attempt to deflect criticism about lack of patriotism.
3. Let's stop trying to cover for politicians we like. Yeah, they all have to do stupid stuff because that's the way the game is played. Why not just admit it?

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