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DFW

(54,365 posts)
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 06:30 AM Dec 2016

So, WHO is surprised to see this NY Times headline?

"Trump's Economic Cabinet Picks Signal Embrace of Wall St. Elite"

Oh, really? Before the election, I saw some of the I-Hate-Hillary crowd posting on FB that they would vote for Trump because Hillary would do that and Trump would not. Hell, except for his kids and a few politicians,Trump doesn't KNOW anyone else, and the unemployed in "flyover country" don't care because he's gonna make America great again. Somehow. Or something.


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So, WHO is surprised to see this NY Times headline? (Original Post) DFW Dec 2016 OP
"But they know how to make money" seems to be the thought terminating cliche of choice here ck4829 Dec 2016 #1
yeah, they sure do: fuck over the working class anarch Dec 2016 #21
For themselves. Iggo Dec 2016 #29
Comrade Casino (R) to voters: "Hah, hah, stupid suckers!" Achilleaze Dec 2016 #2
Only Trump voters are surprised. Rub their faces in tRump shit pie everytime it happens. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2016 #3
Trump voters don't read news. wildeyed Dec 2016 #9
Right, hence it needs to brought up in their presence. Once they are surprised, then rub their faces Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2016 #11
Social Media erpowers Dec 2016 #18
"Drain the swamp" means fill it with swamp monsters, apparently. baldguy Dec 2016 #4
He "drained the swamp" Bettie Dec 2016 #8
NY Times kinghov Dec 2016 #5
Welcome to DU! panader0 Dec 2016 #6
Hey Teaheads get the red out Dec 2016 #7
Racist, sexist, heaven05 Dec 2016 #10
Trump IS Wall Street Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #12
I never bought the "lesser of two evils" line DFW Dec 2016 #14
I hate the whole "Lesser of Two Evils" schtick Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #19
Probably a LOT sooner DFW Dec 2016 #20
I think that most people are appalled Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #22
They can't obstruct forever, but they can obstruct for a long time DFW Dec 2016 #23
I would agree that we should obstruct as many of Trump's nominees Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #24
We won't have a (fairly) functioning SCOTUS if a Scalia clone joins that bench DFW Dec 2016 #25
They've been Trumped Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #13
i think you've summed it up perfectly. it's absolutely insane. spanone Dec 2016 #15
Every time I see the media call him out, I feel a little better. lindysalsagal Dec 2016 #16
It's what they all do awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #17
I'm spending the next for years laughing and crying ffr Dec 2016 #26
I will probably not be giving up my residence in Germany any time soon DFW Dec 2016 #27
Man of the people... welivetotreadonkings Dec 2016 #28

ck4829

(35,069 posts)
1. "But they know how to make money" seems to be the thought terminating cliche of choice here
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 06:45 AM
Dec 2016

Anything they can do to quell the cognitive dissonance, I imagine they will be doing this a lot.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
21. yeah, they sure do: fuck over the working class
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:01 PM
Dec 2016

tried and true; basically what capitalism is all about

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
18. Social Media
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:57 AM
Dec 2016

Apparently, a number of Trump supporters are either feeling regret, or on the verge of regret. According to a tumblr post some Trump supporters are on twitter asking Trump not to make them regret they voted for him. Others are claiming they are beginning to regret voting for him due to some of his cabinet picks and Republican plans to end Medicare and Social Security. Some of them do believe in facts and are aware of what is going on in Washington, D.C. I think a number of these people really thought Trump was going to fight for them and kick the corrupt elite out of Washington, D.C. They may have bought his up from my boot scraps story.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
8. He "drained the swamp"
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 09:17 AM
Dec 2016

right into his cabinet.

He'll have a group of monsters equal to him in ability and willingness to do harm to millions.

A bunch of yes-men who will stroke his ego to get their agendas through.

They will make billions off of this as apparently, there are no longer enforced rules with regard to ethical behavior, and the rest of us will lose everything or nearly so.

My kids' school is already talking about where they are going to make cuts for the coming budget cuts. My guess is that Music, Art, Special Ed and the talented and gifted program are gone next year.

kinghov

(9 posts)
5. NY Times
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 09:04 AM
Dec 2016

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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. Racist, sexist,
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 09:28 AM
Dec 2016

fascist always court the corporations. Wall Street? Piece of cake for our POS potus-in-waiting. AmeriKKKa is truly an openly fascist nation now. No more shining light on the hill. All of us brown people and those wanting to come here for a new start from countries with "3rd" world brown people will start to be blinded by the sunlight beaming off of our potus-in-waitings gold covered toilet, europeans and all those will be allowed of course, Trying to keep those numbers up, don't cha know????

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,411 posts)
12. Trump IS Wall Street
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 11:36 AM
Dec 2016

personfied/given human form. I could NEVER wrap my head around arguments that Hillary could or would somehow be worse than Trump for the country in terms of economic policy (leaving aside the fact that she supports the CFPB). Well, the "I-Hate-Hillary" crowd got their wish and now get Trump and a cabinet full of hardcore Wall Streeters running economic policy in a Trump (mis-)Administration and a likely trashing or neutering of the CFPB.

DFW

(54,365 posts)
14. I never bought the "lesser of two evils" line
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 08:38 PM
Dec 2016

There weren't two evils running. Just one. Keep in mind that any post with the stock phrases of "corporate/corporatist," "oligarch/oligarchy," "liar/can't be trusted," are ones I passed over as a matter of course. Repeating Fox Noise lines is not articulating an argument, it's imitating a parrot. That was never a discussion I was interested in joining, any more than I'll argue with someone on the right who thinks that "libbruls" are an issue.

Someone with a lot more people skills that I'll ever have, a social worker for 35 years, asked me why (she is not American), during the primaries, did the Republicans not utter one peep about Bernie Sanders, if he was such a "soshalist/kommanist" and everything Republicans were taught from birth to hate? Maybe because he was doing (not deliberately, obviously) the Republicans' propaganda work for them, probing what seemed to make Hillary vulnerable, writing down which anti-Hillary lines drew the greatest cheers. Note whatever it might be that the masses might hate about Trump, then paint Hilary with the same brush, and then let Hillary's Democratic opponents smear her with "well, she IS a lot closer to Trump than Sanders!" Well, umm, no she isn't and never was. Bernie knew that the whole time, but I don't think he ever realized how many of his "supporters" didn't get what he was about. When they lose their job, health coverage, house, income, self-respect, whom will all these people, right AND left, blame? Trump? Nope. Democratic "corporatists." Now THERE's an easy target. Like aiming at the side of a barn, and like the side of a barn, they won't shoot back. Republicans will, so better leave them alone, right?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,411 posts)
19. I hate the whole "Lesser of Two Evils" schtick
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 12:55 PM
Dec 2016

I also never understood why there were so many people whom were so conditioned/propagandized to hate both candidates during this election cycle. Whatever else you might think of her or her "mistakes" ("Trumped up" as they were), we had two major party candidates running for President and Hillary was obviously the more intelligent, coherent, and qualified candidate in the running. There wasn't or shouldn't have been any kind of reasonable equivalence between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. There just wasn't. And for progressives whom hated that she beat Bernie by 3 million votes in the primary, Hillary wouldn't have be nominating a Scalia clone to SCOTUS, nor would she be choosing ANY of the people Trump has been choosing so far for Cabinet posts- but that's exactly what we're going to get now with President Trump. People whom- either through action or inaction- let the Trump Presidency become a reality are REALLY going to regret their decision- and probably sooner rather than later.......

DFW

(54,365 posts)
20. Probably a LOT sooner
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:00 PM
Dec 2016

Rational minds should have started to be appalled starting with Sessions as AG, and at the latest after it went downhill from there.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,411 posts)
22. I think that most people are appalled
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:08 PM
Dec 2016

but there is not much that can be done right now. Democrats can attack and attempt to filibuster or put holds on Trump's nominees but eventually Trump's Cabinet will HAVE to be fully staffed and, politically, Democrats can't obstruct forever, so eventually SOMEBODY will have to be confirmed for all of the various positions and they will still likely wind up being the most loathsome people Trump can find to work for him.

DFW

(54,365 posts)
23. They can't obstruct forever, but they can obstruct for a long time
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:21 PM
Dec 2016

The question is, do they want to? Do they want to look as bad as the Republicans, or do they want to set a better example with the major side effect that they will be allowing dangerous individuals into positions of power they have no business occupying.

If it were up to me, I'd say yes, go ahead and obstruct to the extent you can. How badly did the Republicans suffer, after all, from 8 years of obstruction of Obama? From the looks of things as they now stand, not too badly at all. Can't obstruct forever? The Republicans did it for eight years. I think we owe it to ourselves (and the country) to see if we can stick it out for four. Trump (or whoever it is that's really doing his nominating for him) is so far coming up with a combination of evil, incompetent and malicious. If that's not worth obstructing, I don't know what is. His Supreme Court nominees (or whose-ever they really are) will probably be looking to the Volksgerichtshof as their role model--and the Republican Senate will be screeching from the loudest rooftops (with every media stooge from Wolf Blitzer to Sean Hannity in support) that a president has the right to nominate whomever he wants to the Supreme Court, and that the nominees deserve a fair hearing in the Senate.

Merrick who?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,411 posts)
24. I would agree that we should obstruct as many of Trump's nominees
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:26 PM
Dec 2016

I would imagine that we could have quite a field day if Trump nominates Patraeus to SOS or Palin to VA. Schumer wants to make Price's nomination a proxy war over Medicare, ACA and Sessions couldn't get confirmed to the Judiciary back in 1986. Why should he be confirmed for AG now?


I also think that Democrats should- as a matter of Principle- declare Donald Trump a "lame duck" President and call for the next President to fill Scalia's seat. After all, that's what the Republicans did to us. Unfortunately, we're probably too high minded for that because we care about having a functional SCOTUS but we really should fight them over the gross perversion of the SCOTUS nomination process that they pulled with President Obama.

DFW

(54,365 posts)
25. We won't have a (fairly) functioning SCOTUS if a Scalia clone joins that bench
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 03:33 PM
Dec 2016

I find your suggestion inspirational: declare Trump to be a lame duck president and block every SCOTUS nomination he puts up saying the next president should pick the next Supreme Court Judge. I will pass that one on to a few people!!

spanone

(135,828 posts)
15. i think you've summed it up perfectly. it's absolutely insane.
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 09:08 PM
Dec 2016

i swear i'm in some bad version of the twilight zone

lindysalsagal

(20,679 posts)
16. Every time I see the media call him out, I feel a little better.
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 09:19 PM
Dec 2016

I am terrified they'll just lie down for him. Or he'll buy them all out.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
17. It's what they all do
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 11:03 PM
Dec 2016

when they get that position they start ensuring a good retirement stream. Heck, who else is going to pay the huge speaking fees?

ffr

(22,669 posts)
26. I'm spending the next for years laughing and crying
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 03:57 PM
Dec 2016

Laughing at all the buffoons who get their medicine.

Crying at the foolishness of supposed adults.

DFW

(54,365 posts)
27. I will probably not be giving up my residence in Germany any time soon
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 04:04 PM
Dec 2016

Unless it's to move to Switzerland.

I will still take my summer vacations in Massachusetts, which is beginning to sound like I am coming to visit friends in a gated community.

28. Man of the people...
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 05:16 PM
Dec 2016

I saw dumb dumbs making that argument too. It takes about two minutes of reading to realize Trump's economic team was far more vicious and connected to Wall Street.

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