Cenk Uygur Praises Donald Trump For Carrier Deal: Obama Would Never Have Done It

[SidDithers]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/30/cenk_uygur_praises_trump_for_carrier_deal_obama_would_never_have_done_it.html


He closes with:

Nobody is going to remember the downsides of that deal, no one is going to worry about those tax breaks later. It is going to be a huge political win for Donald Trump, that is by the way, as I just said, somewhat earned. There are so many options that the Democrats never choose to use... They want to outsource the jobs, let them outsource the jobs.

Threaten their government contracts? Yes, you threaten their government contracts. That's called being strong!

So I told you there would be some small upsides to Donald Trump winning, because at least he is strong. There are a thousand downsides and we have a thousand videos to talk about those. But we have to give credit where credit is due today. They got this deal done, and not only will it look great... but it actually saved a thousand American jobs.

Strength, it matters. It isn't unsophisticated to talk about strength. It is smart...

Democrats, as usual, you ought to be embarrassed.

Clown.

Sid

[Buzz Clik]

1. I've been on the "Cenk is an Irrelevant Clown" train for a long time.

I'm beyond caring what he says.

[cwydro]

6. Yup.

He loves the sound of his own voice.

Ugh.

[JaneQPublic]

24. I don't trust him.

Read Cenk's bio on Wiki. He was a GOP activist until the Clinton impeachment trials, when, he said, the GOP's unfair treatment of BC made him decide he was with the wrong party. How odd, since he never misses a chance to lambaste Bill & Hillary, both personally and politically.

Obviously, Cenk presents himself as a far-left progressive, but it seems he uses that stance to attack Obama and other leading Dems just as vigorously as do GOPers, if not more so. Perhaps that's why his show on MSNBC was so short-lived. I heard complaints that if you want to hear someone rag on Obama constantly, then you may as well watch Fox News.

For those reasons, I strongly suspect he's a GOPer who only pretends to be a progressive to sneak his anti-Dem screeds past our defenses.

[Buzz Clik]

25. Interesting take: the classic mole.

I'll buy it.

[Greybnk48]

55. Ditto. All these people that flip back and forth

between parties... I don't trust them.

[Buzz Clik]

56. What I find interesting about this thread ...

... is the Cenk is being thrown under the bus for his comments when he has been revered at DU for ... what ... ten years?

[Vinca]

2. So the key to keeping jobs is to buy off the CEOs?

How patriotic.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

36. How isn't it considered a "bribe"?

That would be a great way for Democrats to frame it BTW. He's promising them not only tax incentives (which has been a fairly common practice by most politicians, albeit wrong IMHO) but reportedly also regulatory relief as well. This could become a big mess if this is how Don the Con decides to save manufacturing jobs and "Making America Great". Incidentally, there are a lot of unanswered questions about the deal (Indiana Senator Joe Donnelly is already questioning it) and any "deals" that Don the Con makes are surely not going to benefit Unions or progressives. Nobody on the left should be praising the deal until we find out more about it. I doubt that we will find much we like about it in the end.

[cilla4progress]

3. Fuck

that shit.

Stupid take, Cenk

[bigtree]

4. this isn't hard to understand

...Trump said he'd solve the problem of outsourcing by taxing those companies at 35%. He said this several times during the campaign.

Instead, what he's done here is use Pence's lame-duck governorship to bribe the company into keeping 1000 out of 2000 jobs planned to go to Mexico in the state. Indiana taxpayers will foot the $700,000 tax break the company gets for, essentially, sending 1000 jobs out of the country, and Trump and Pence get a photo-op where they'll claim they saved something.

Uygur and the rest of the clowns praising this stunt ought to be ashamed, especially if they've been calling themselves 'free-market' republicans.

[ProfessorGAC]

10. I Still Don't Believe It Either, Tree

1000 jobs not moved to a low employment cost country for $700k? The numbers don't make sense. $700 per year per person at around 2100 hours worked each, saves them 33.3 cents per hour. I don't believe they did this for $700k.

Either they were never actually going to move all those jobs or the number is WAY higher than $700k

[beaglelover]

37. There is more to it. United Technologies is a HUGE Pentagon contractor. Trump threatened to take

away their contracts and not include them in future bids. That's a large part of why those jobs are staying in the USA now.

[ProfessorGAC]

42. And You Believe That?

Come on, BL.That would mean that the president elect is admittedly committing economic blackmail against a US company? And then admit it publicly?

Too convenient for me.

[bigtree]

49. looks like spin

...all that we really see is a $70m bribe, sweetened with federal contracts and less than half of the jobs said to be headed to Mexico were 'saved.' Presumably, 1000 or so are headed to Mexico. The company just got rewarded for that.

If he's going to penalize companies for moving jobs overseas, he should get a law on the books. Even if he actually participates in that effort (beyond promises in a campaign), this will remain a typical bought-and-paid stunt by Trump.

[Bettie]

16. If they follow usual practices

they'll keep the jobs there until they've reaped the benefits of the tax break and then move the plant anyway.

[rtracey]

5. pssssssh

This is why this asshole is not on a network. He seem quite two-faced....

[justhanginon]

28. The Young Turds!

[stonecutter357]

7. promise of a 35% tariff if move jobs to Mexico-Instead gives massive tax break..

[napi21]

8. The Con didn'tt do the Carrier deal, PENCE DID!! as Governor nt.

[get the red out]

9. idiot

The last thousand jobs left will leave the minute the perks the company was given run out.

[kcr]

11. Wow, that is dumb.

It isn't Dems who should be embarrassed, Cenk.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Read his bio. He used to be a Rethug.

Becoming a leftie was a great career move.

[Stellar]

17. Whoa... I didn't know that.

Thanks for sharing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. ...

Political views
In his college and law school years, Uygur espoused socially conservative views. He wrote a column in The Daily Pennsylvanian criticizing Penn's practice of affirmative action.[10] He supported the pro-life position on the abortion issue, criticized feminism, and argued that Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was treated unjustly during his Senate confirmation hearings.[15|


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenk_Uygur


I know some folks question the legitimacy of wikipedia as a source. That's why the good entries include footnotes.

[Stellar]

27. He sounds like morning Joke to me here.

[cwydro]

57. Back during the primaries people here swooned over him.

[spanone]

13. bullshit

[Stellar]

14. As Cenk said, " the devil was in the details"....

(what exactly was the devil in the details, and brushed off so casually.) and he added that nobody will remember that in the end. And he called Obama, 'weak'.
What did Cenk say when Obama saved the car industry when everybody, everybody was telling Obama that it would be a lost cause to save the industry. Did Cenk still consider Obama to be weak?

Obama always looked at things critically, and not jump to the first thing that came to mind (like the Twitter king).

Obama, the weakling that went after bin-Laden...hmmm.

[BeyondGeography]

15. Well it is right up there with saving the auto industry

[Stellar]

18. What were the details in saving the auto industry...

please tell.

[BeyondGeography]

19. Errrr, ok

https://newrepublic.com/article/78781/obama-gm-detroit-auto-bailout-worked

[Starry Messenger]

20. Fuck you, Cenk.

[stopbush]

38. Cenk needs to get together with Ed Schultz for a circle jerk

over a picture of Trump.

[Petrushka]

21. More ---

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028321512

[NCTraveler]

22. Sorry ass tool for the right. nt.

[mcar]

26. Yeah, creating 16 million jobs is doing nothing

"Saving" 1000 with bribes and tax breaks is making America great again.

Sometimes there aren't enough walls.

[NWCorona]

29. I used to like Cenk but he's just a tool

[Fast Walker 52]

44. same here

[RAFisher]

61. Yeah I gave up a few months ago.

Been listening to Sam Seder much more. Pretty much the anti-TYT. Both Cenk and Sam were for Bernie but they seem like opposites in how they see things. Sam is much more calculating and thoughtful.

[lostnfound]

30. Not the sharpest card in the deck, is he?

Open season for corporations to extort taxpayers and thereby increase municipal debt.

[Initech]

31. Obama wouldn't have done it, and that's a good thing.

The only that benefit from this "deal" is Carrier - their CEO and board of directors, who I'm sure will get very generous bonuses out of this. It's an extremely terrible deal all the way around. 1200 jobs are still lost. But it makes Trump look good for a minute, so who cares?

[Cha]

32. Cenk's an idiot.. This is what President Obama did.. does cenk have a memory of that?

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/11/30/decorations/

His hero trump is inheriting a good economy from President Obama.. Obama had to wipe up bush2 and cheney's.

Thanks, Sid~

[kacekwl]

33. How the fuck was that being strong ?

Roll over give piles of corporate welfare to a corporation who already recvive ridiculous amounts of welfare to save less than half of the jobs of those affected. And for how long. Art of the deal my ass.

[Fast Walker 52]

45. exactly... sounds weak to me. Not to mention, this was more due to Pence and his connections

than anything Trump did.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

34. glad he is spreading the hate around, instead of focusing on HRC

will usher in his irrelevance faster.

[randome]

35. Stupid man says what?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[MineralMan]

39. Kowtow, Cenk!

Bow down before your master!

Perhaps you've forgotten all the work that Democrats have done to keep industries alive through tax breaks and incentives. Perhaps you weren't aware of those situations. Perhaps you're so busy pretending to be a pundit that you were unaware.

Piss off, Mr. Uygur! There's a good fellow...

[ismnotwasm]

40. I can't stand that fucker

And as usual --he gets it wrong

[Proud Liberal Dem]

41. Now

Trump just has to save 1000 jobs 804 more times to match President Obama's record.

[otohara]

43. I Pissed Him Off on Twitter - Whoa

He came after me and so did his rabid fan base.

But I did get some "hearts"

[rockfordfile]

46. He wasn't this bad awhile back. Now he has lost a lot of credibility

Now he has lost a lot of credibility. He is all over the place.

[Maru Kitteh]

47. We need to quit pretending "strongman" fascist-admiring misogynists like this are progressives

Cenk "was" a Republican? Newsflash. He still is at heart.

He's right about one thing though. Obama wouldn't have done this deal because HE'S NOT THE GOVERNOR OF INDIANA YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

[Retrograde]

48. True, because Obama is ethical and honest

and is therefore unlikely to stoop to bribery (i.e., tax subsidies from Indiana) or taking credit for the work of others (i.e., Pence)

[workinclasszero]

50. Haven't said this in a while....

FU Cenk!!!

Maybe he's angling for a job in Dump's administration?

[dawg]

51. Cenk is a smarmy know-it-all.

He's the liberal version of Ted Cruz. And he's not nearly as smart or as insightful as he thinks he is.

[Hekate]

52. Calling for a strongman -- seems to be a worldwide trend. When you do call them, they will come.

[bravenak]

53. Here he goes again. Maybe he should switch back to being a repub?

[MFM008]

54. no

sorry . No. this is just to make headlines and assuage the morons.
Trying to be in charge of news cycle.
As usual.
he can piss off.

[kentuck]

58. A little early to start praising Trump.

Cenk is disappointing.

[erpowers]

59. According to Media Matters President Obama Made a Better Deal

According to this article at Media Matters President Obama saved 1.5 million American manufacturing jobs in 2009.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/12/01/fox-news-cheers-trump-over-1000-carrier-jobs-denounced-obama-saving-15-million-auto-industry-jobs/214676

[erpowers]

60. If President Obama Had Made This Deal

If President Obama had made this deal he would have been criticized for having completed a horrible deal. The main stream media would have most likely pointed out that more jobs are leaving the United States than are staying in the United States. They would have also pointed out that Carrier was given tax incentives in order to keep the jobs in the Unites States.

The Fox News crowd, which is supposedly cheering this Trump deal, has in the past criticized President Obama for involving the government in the free market would have kept to that line of thinking. They would have also claim President Obama was propping up a union instead of allowing it to fail as it rightfully should. Media Matters is reporting that many of the same Fox News figures who are now praising Donald Trump for completing this Carrier deal, claimed, in 2009, that President Obama was bullying business interests in the United States. They would have said the same thing if President Obama had completed this deal.

[RAFisher]

62. Sam Seder dismantled Cenk's argument. Does Cenk want a dictator?

[betsuni]

63. Cenk: you are dumb.

Everybody knows. Why not get a job at Fox News?