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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI want to inject a little honesty here about racism.
I am one of those dreaded boomers. Sixty-nine years of age and Caucasian. I grew up in the mid-west. Here is the truth. Very few white people my age were not raised racist. My grandparents were racist, so was my father, my mother I'm not sure about, certainly less so. I had to learn not to be reflexively racist, homophobic and sexist, among other life lessons-like never trust a Republican. That took most of my adult life and didn't start until college. Up until then I had never met a Jewish person or had a conversation with a black person. Mexicans lived in Mexico except for a tiny enclave. Asians were a rarity. If you were raised in those days better than I was, your family and community should be complemented.
I can understand how people never unlearned what they had been brought up with. Especially with help from their church, the right wing media and the boys at the bar, factory, gun club. It sucks, but that's the way things are. It is hard to educate people who half the time can't even find their glasses without a whole house search. Maybe we will die off without destroying the planet.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)in church , one age group dying off does nothing really . Just served as a good example to the younger ones to carry on with the same culture
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)we are headed for a new dark ages or worse.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Grew up in Queens, NYC. Trump's neighborhood, actually.
My mother told me how she was mortified when I was maybe 5 and saw my first black man, a construction worker in the neighborhood, and ran around yakking about the "chocolate man". My father was a closet racist, but smart enough not to tell our Jewish neighbors what he really thought about them. I never really did understand that about him, though. He was a lawyer with a Jesuit philosophical background and talked about rights and ethics, but never seemed to connect that with the racism he grew up with and could never get away from.
Anyway, through meeting others in high school and City College, I lost all outward racist beliefs, but still have that vague unsure feeling about "others" of all sorts. I think that's ingrained in us from the earliest times when strangers were to be feared and will eventually evolve out of us. If we last long enough.
We were alive when Rosa Parks refused to sit at the back of the bus and King sat at a white lunch counter. We saw how it was to have our worst side enshrined into law. The good news is that we have come this far in one lifetime. The bad news is how far we have to go, and how we are slowing down.
Our grandkids seem to care less about race and gender a lot less than we did. Maybe they are the future after all, if they live to see it.
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)It is time for old people to let go of the reins and concentrate on finding our glasses.
Nitram
(22,794 posts)...question your statement that most boomers were "raised racist." My parents, who in later years I discovered did harbor some racist beliefs, raised us not to be racists or anti-semitic, and they really believed in equality between the races. My mother privately tutored young African-American kids in a rural Virginia community in 1961 and 1962 to bring them up to speed for school when they moved to our town. Old geezers on their front porches called out "your mother's a n*r-lover as we walked to school in the morning. didn't bother us because they were so obviously out of it. The race riots during the 60s and 70s scared them senseless, and they retreated into a default position of a fairly "mild" form of racism. They worked with and liked the African-Americans in their community, but were avid Fox News watchers and became increasingly right wing and conservative as they aged.
But my sisters and I benefited from the idealism of their youth and were consciously raised not to be racist or anti-semitic. Both my parents explained to us about prejudice against blacks and Jewish people, and told us in no uncertain terms it was very wrong. I've met some racist boomers in the north and the south, but the vast majority of the boomers I've met were not raised racist. That's my two cents.
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)My dad had a freaking ninth grade education. He was effectively emancipated at the age of fifteen years old when he became a stevedore at the Port of New York. I never heard him make a racist, xenophobic, or homophobic comment in my life. He had black friends who when we went to visit we were the only white people I could see for miles. We had friends, white, who lived in trailer parks.
When we moved to FL in 1970 my dad got a job putting up signs in new developments. On his first day of work he instinctively sat down to have lunch with his black co-workers. They told him it was cool with them but the white workers might shun him. My dad said he didn't care.
Ain't nothing innate about bigotry.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)I grew up not knowing any black folks personally. There just weren't many around the town I grew up in. As kids, we told pretty much all of the ethnic jokes, primarily against "polacks" IIRC, but some with blacks as the subject. In high school, we had one young black man transfer in, he was a football player, of course. I didn't know him well, but he seemed to be accepted by the "in crowd."
We did have several Korean and Japanese families in town. Don't remember any racial tensions.
I first came into regular contact with blacks during my hitch in the Corps. In fact, it was the first time I experienced blacks in authority. There were numerous senior NCOs in my unit that had earned their stripes in Vietnam.
In my mid 60's now, and yeah, I still have to work to get over those feelings of "other" that perhaps are a staple of small town living, anywhere in the world. Current rash of hate crimes really bother me.