URGENT: There will be PUBLIC hearing tomorrow to decide MICHIGAN RECOUNT!

[Barack_America]

At 9:30AM in Lansing, MI.

Full details:
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/BSC_Notice_446227_7.pdf

Members of the public will be allowed 3 minutes to speak if written request is received ahead of hearing (contact info contained in the link)

Trump's lawyers have argued that no one has been "aggrieved" by the election in MI.

We disagree!!

Please consider attending or spreading this message!

This is our last stand, Hillary is now only down by 46,000 votes in PA and 10,000 votes in MI!

http://billypenn.com/2016/12/01/hillary-clinton-lost-pennsylvania-by-just-46000-votes-latest-figures-show/

[spanone]

1. K&R...

[etherealtruth]

2. I wish I could go ... it seems statements must be made in person?

[Barack_America]

9. I may try.

Horrible week for me, work-wise.

I did sign up to monitor the recount.

[etherealtruth]

13. Work is my issue as well

If this were occurring in January/ February I would go. Seems everyone wants everything done by the end of the year

[SoCalMusicLover]

3. Were We Living In A Democracy, The Recount Would Be Allowed To Continue

Sadly though, we're not, so I fully expect the board to prevent the recount.

I hope there is a large public presence vocalizing their support for the recount, but fear that in the end, it won't matter much.

You see, our leaders and the media will tell us how important our votes are, but when it comes to actually verifying them, to confirm accuracy, it's too big a hassle.

It's not who votes, it's who counts the votes.

[etherealtruth]

4. The margin in Michigan is so slim ... I wish Michigan's automatic recount was

... percentage based vs number of votes based (2000 votes ...???)

[SoCalMusicLover]

7. The Problem Is....

Hillary must overturn 3 states. trump only has to prevent 1 from slipping. It doesn't matter which one. Obviously Michigan is the closest, so it probably is of greatest concern to him.

[etherealtruth]

14. I know :-(

[Barack_America]

10. Half the board is Democrat, the other 2 are Republicans.

The chair is a Democrat.

[SoCalMusicLover]

16. What Happens In A Tie?

I have little faith that the Democrats will both vote in favor of the recount.

I have ZERO doubt the repubs will vote against it. They never waver. Democrats on the other hand.

Best I see happening is 2-2 vote. Any idea what that means?

[Barack_America]

18. I don't know. A 2-2 tie results in a hand count in the hand vs. machine debate.

But I don't know about a tie with the objection. Can't find anything.

[Barack_America]

20. Confirmed. 2-2 tie it goes forward. One Dem holding firm in favor.

The other Dem not publically commenting.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/01/recount-objection/94734556/

[Aimee in OKC]

28. If enough citizens show up to try something like this ...

Given any problems getting a formal statewide recount, individual citizens might be able to count ballots. As Optical Scan machines read a ballot, they capture an anonymous image of it.

Use a notarized FOIA request to election officials demanding the images. The response could be cooperation, outright denial (for true reasons or not) and/or dragging it out, so if possible, go in person, taking at least two brand-new, still-wrapped flash drives to download the files. Count the votes & place into a spreadsheet for tracking.

https://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/

1. National map: click on Michigan. {Clicking on a county gets its info.} Scroll to "Search Equipment" dropdowns in lower left. Select Michigan, "Optical Scan" & 2016, and SEARCH.

https://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/#year/2016/state/26

2. See the 2-page list of Michigan counties' usage of which makes and various models of Optical Scan machines = ES&S {Elections Systems & Software}, Premier/Diebold, Sequoia. Go to bottom left, pick Michigan, 2016 & "SEARCH".

3. Explore "Security Concerns" & "Important Info" for those Optical Scan models used in Michigan: in right-hand column, scroll down & select each one in turn to see their vulnerabilities.

https://www.verifiedvoting.org/resources/voting-equipment/

POLLING PLACE EQUIPMENT
Make . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Model . . . . . . Type of Equipment
Election Systems & Software= AutoMARK Ballot Marking Device or System
Premier/Diebold (Dominion)= AccuVote OS Optical Scan
Election Systems & Software= Model 100 Optical Scan
Sequoia (Dominion)= Optech Insight Optical Scan

ABSENTEE BALLOT TABULATION
Premier/Diebold (Dominion)= AccuVote OS Optical Scan
Election Systems & Software= Model 100 Optical Scan
Sequoia (Dominion)= Optech Insight Optical Scan

[TheFrenchRazor]

5. kicking... nt

[DesertRat]

6. k&r

[Skittles]

8. THE ENTIRE COUNTRY HAS BEEN AGGRIEVED

what an ASSHOLE

[texasmomof3]

12. sadly no only the smart half

[Skittles]

15. too stupid to know what they've actually done

ugh

they have royally FUCKED America

[Barack_America]

21. He's already stirred up Indian/Pakastani relations with a single phone call.

[Skittles]

23. he is a fucking moron

can you imagine him meeting with these foreign leaders? I'd be wondering if he was rating their wives.

[Barack_America]

33. I can imagine someone sitting beside him, whispering...

...into his ear, telling him what to say....or WWIII.

One or the other will happen.

[sheshe2]

11. K&R

[Pathwalker]

17. My husband and I Will TRY to attend!

Must call for accommodation.

[Barack_America]

19. Awesome! I might head over too.

Oh man is work going to be pissed. Whatever, I think I'm going to do it.

[certainot]

22. protest MSU and UM to support the recount.

MSU 11 and UM 7 support 18 limbaugh stations. the universities have no excuse for not looking for apolitical alternatives to broadcast sports on.

like limbaugh stations everywhere those are ridiculing the recount effort, intimidating recount officials trying to do the right thing and enabling republicans trying to obstruct the recount. the elected officials in those states depend heavily on those stations. the local blowhards on those stations may be getting very loud and irrational in their objections.

the mere possibility that those stations might lose that ability to use the school brand to attract advertising revenue and may have to find alternative programming will totally disrupt the republican political machine in that state. and now is the time to do that.

penn state supports 11 limbaugh stations, and wisconsin 5.

dems have to stop allowing publicly funded universities support trump like that

Boycott every business w/ads on Trump radio, protest 88 unis, get House and Senate in 2 years.

[poli-junkie]

24. K & R

[brooklynite]

25. Anyone who's planning to speak...

...should limit their comments to the desire for an accurate count, and not veer into fringe conspiracy theories for the hi h they have no hard evidence.

[Barack_America]

31. Don't worry, I'd make you proud.

Fortunately, in real life, I'm a bit more intelligent and accomplished than I may appear here, lol.

[AgadorSparticus]

26. Go MICHIGAN!!!! Let's recount!!

[gollygee]

27. Wow the GOP REAllllllly doesn't want a recount.

I have been very skeptical of the use of a recount, but the more they fight it, the more necessary I think it is.

[lonestarnot]

29. No they really do not.

[peggysue2]

30. You're right

There's something very hinky about all of this. Why send a 36-page legal argument against recounts if you were confident of the tally? And the main reason? Too onerous to the taxpayer although Jill Stein has raised private funds/donations to mitigate the cost. Wisconsin's initial cost estimate doubled once the recount was a reality. Something rotten in Trump Tower and RNC headquarters if you ask me.

Trump himself shouted out the projection: 'It's rigged. folks. It's all rigged.'

He just neglected to say for whom the rigging benefitted.

The whole thing is sickening. Sorry, but I do not buy that a candidate who received 2.5 million more votes is deemed the loser, while the Trumpanzee and his zookeepers are running around the country on a victory tour.

God help us all.

[Lucinda]

32. KNR Thank you!

[Barack_America]

34. Kicking for anyone local. Starts in 1hr.

Sadly, as feared, a "crisis" came up at work and I will be unable to attend.