People in Indiana are going to wake up with a bad taste in their mouths

[bigtree]

...about all of the money their lame-duck governor just spent to basically codify the jobs that Carrier will ship to Mexico, notwithstanding their 'agreement' to defer the movement of some of those jobs.

It has to be dawning on them that, not only can't this stunt be replicated around the state, it's certainly not going to work nationally. Moreover, they have to be thinking of how much more impact the taxpayer-funded payoff to Carrier would have if distributed to the thousands of other Indiana businesses, or, by extension, the millions of workers around the nation experiencing the same economic pressure.

[JI7]

1. they voted for it multiple times , but i do feel bad for the rest who didn't

[pangaia]

2. They won't notice anything.

Ever been to, oh say, Indianapolis? The only thing to eat there is big hunks dead cows.

[dhill926]

8. Wrong

Lived there for 18 years. Many cool places and cool people. The state as a whole on the other hand…

[pangaia]

9. Oh well. whenever I go, which is about once/year for a convention.. there that's all I can find.

I did find a nice Cuban place downtown.
Could not find good sushi or Chinese,

A friend took me to a sushi place on the north side, or just north.. couldn't tell.. It was ok but not great. I ate at one sushi place right near the convention center,,,, blechk,,,,

Any suggestions for Asian places?

[pnwest]

10. The BEST Chinese in the world, is

at Lotus Garden in Greenwood, south of Indy. Been there forever, best food ever. Period.

[pangaia]

12. With ALL, I mean ALL due respect...

trust me the best Chinese in the world is NOT at Lotus Garden in Greenwood, Indiana.
It is not.
Really, I promise you...
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,really, really.......



But thank you for trying to help me find places to eat....

[pnwest]

13. Ok, maybe a bit of hyperbole & lot of homesickness-

But it is DEF good stuff, authentic recipes...DEF best in Indiana! LOL, and so far I have yet to find better in 13 years of living in AZ, and 5years of living outside-of-Seattle, WA.

[dhill926]

18. been 10 years since I've lived there...

but try the places on Massachusetts Ave., near downtown. Some good stuff. Another good Thai place whose name I can't remember, in Fountain Square, short cab ride from d-town. If you stay near convention center, then yep, a lot of the eateries are geared toward that crowd. But Yelp is your friend!

[Ilsa]

3. I don't think they get the hypocrisy, either, of Pence

"Socializing" the expense to the company of maintaining this local workforce. The trade-off of the 850 keeping their jobs is partly born by the taxpayers.

[Cha]

4. Big Con by drumpfucks and the M$M.

[jmg257]

5. Do you think giving tax-breaks for businesses to keep jobs in their state is something new?

What makes Indiana re: Carrier different?

Shit - Cuomo gave Remington 5.5 million over 5 years to consolidate 600 jobs in NY, and a year later they moved to Alabama (due to "gun laws" - now that's a bad taste!).

[bigtree]

6. for a governor, probably not much of a story

...but for a president to sell this to the nation is likely a reflection of his entire economic policy. Sleight of hand, shell-game politics benefiting a select few.

I've seen several clips and statements from Indianans complaining about the cherry-picking of Carrier and these few select jobs.

[jmg257]

7. Ah gotcha! Thanks. Nt

[TeamPooka]

11. Don't forget Trump campaigned for the last 12 months on "stupid dumb politicians giving

money and tax breaks to companies" and how tough guy threats of tariffs were all that was needed to keep them here.
Now Trump's not so tough, just another dumb politician but his voters won't see it that way.

[leftynyc]

14. We're talking about a candidate

who ran on getting tough with corporations - taxing them at 35% and removing any government contracts if they outsource. What we got instead was a PE who got beat up in the schoolyard and had to cough up his lunch money.

[jmg257]

15. Great point! nt

[cbdo2007]

16. A tax break for one is a tax increase for someone else. We need to frame this as him raising taxes.

Because SOMEBODY is paying for it, it's not just free money that comes out of thin air.

[jmg257]

17. Understood - but every governor does this...tax incentives to keep jobs are nothing new. nt

[cbdo2007]

19. That doesn't mean we can't spin it just like they do. A big reason they won is because

of how they framed their debates and their verbage...it resonated with the uneducated out there, so we need to stop trying to explain why they are so terrible in our words which go way over their heads, and rather do it in this twisted meaning rhetoric that they seem to understand.