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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 10:45 AM Dec 2016

Trump voter lost her home to new Treasury secretary

Trump voter lost her home to new Treasury secretary

WASHINGTON (AP) — When Donald Trump named his Treasury secretary, Teena Colebrook felt her heart sink.

She had voted for the president-elect on the belief that he would knock the moneyed elites from their perch in Washington, D.C. And she knew Trump's pick for Treasury_Steven Mnuchin_all too well.

OneWest, a bank formerly owned by a group of investors headed by Mnuchin, had foreclosed on her Los Angeles-area home in the aftermath of the Great Recession, stripping her of the two units she rented as a primary source of income.

"I just wish that I had not voted," said Colebrook, 59. "I have no faith in our government anymore at all. They all promise you the world at the end of a stick and take it away once they get in."

Less than a month after his presidential win, Trump's populist appeal has started to clash with a Cabinet of billionaires and millionaires that he believes can energize economic growth.

https://apnews.com/0f1305c8742547df9bcf978b2c15997c/Trump-voter-lost-her-home-to-new-Treasury-secretary
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Trump voter lost her home to new Treasury secretary (Original Post) workinclasszero Dec 2016 OP
Normally, I would have compassion for her, but since November 8, 2016... liberal N proud Dec 2016 #1
She was fooled, just like a huge portion of Trump voters. trotsky Dec 2016 #3
she wasn't fooled mercuryblues Dec 2016 #13
Do you think the average American is equipped to sift good information from an ocean of shit? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2016 #57
If not it is sad standingtall Dec 2016 #62
Sad, yes. But I can't agree with anything agter that. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2016 #70
Oh, bullshit - all you had to do was listen to the guy jberryhill Dec 2016 #20
Keep telling yourself that and we'll keep losing. n/t trotsky Dec 2016 #21
Lol jberryhill Dec 2016 #22
I would prefer our party figures out a way to reach them. trotsky Dec 2016 #23
I would prefer that our party figures out a way to draw in the 50% who DID NOT VOTE. CincyDem Dec 2016 #26
Can't we do both? trotsky Dec 2016 #33
We can blue cat Dec 2016 #51
And I never said we should. You shouldn't imply I did. trotsky Dec 2016 #54
"Rather that trying to teach a frog latin" Perseus Dec 2016 #37
In order for us to draw all the standingtall Dec 2016 #63
No she was not fooled, her comment says it all Perseus Dec 2016 #35
She was fooled into believing Hillary was "as bad as" (or worse) than Trump. trotsky Dec 2016 #43
She was fooled into being a republican standingtall Dec 2016 #64
She wasn't fooled. She is just like Trump. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #47
I guess that proves it. trotsky Dec 2016 #48
That in concert with her being a Trump Humper. It's called a trend. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #50
FFS trotsky Dec 2016 #53
There are no lengths some won't go to cover for Trump Humpers. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #55
Perhaps you should request I be banned. trotsky Dec 2016 #56
"Perhaps you should request I be banned." NCTraveler Dec 2016 #58
A Trump Voter Gets Buyer's Remorse Vogon_Glory Dec 2016 #2
Well, there is some justice after all. lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #4
No sympathy... Aristus Dec 2016 #5
K&R - The con man strikes again CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #6
"Expose and educate." Tactical Peek Dec 2016 #7
Everyone wakes up at some point. No matter when it comes, it's painful. RedWedge Dec 2016 #8
Apparently, just not vote. Tactical Peek Dec 2016 #10
Sounds like she was speculating on the real estate market and got burned inwiththenew Dec 2016 #9
I'm going to guess she had more than one mortgage. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #12
No she doesn't inwiththenew Dec 2016 #18
I actually LOL'd at her. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #11
I don't give a fuck. You may lose yours too. lonestarnot Dec 2016 #14
A telling quote in there... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #15
Sure shes brainwashed by the news media's false equivalency big lie workinclasszero Dec 2016 #16
She has no faith in government because she got the government she always votes for. Johonny Dec 2016 #17
This is what I have been saying for a long time to people I know Perseus Dec 2016 #39
Sad trombone jberryhill Dec 2016 #19
If Trump's destruction wasn't so broad, this would be funny dbackjon Dec 2016 #24
Again...for Teena Liberalagogo Dec 2016 #25
well if that aint it in a nutshell. smdh. mopinko Dec 2016 #27
Another smug Republican getting schooled at Trump University. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2016 #28
Reply of the next four years workinclasszero Dec 2016 #34
She should be wishing she voted for Hillary BainsBane Dec 2016 #29
Alas, many millions of voters will be realizing that they got Republi-suckered Achilleaze Dec 2016 #30
People like her have destroyed our country. lark Dec 2016 #31
Oh please, Teena. You didn't vote for him because he would get rid of "moneyed elites" in DC. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #32
Bingo workinclasszero Dec 2016 #46
STFU Teena. MontanaMama Dec 2016 #36
I have absolutely no sympathy for her or any other like her. LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #38
If she was only 25 yo, I might feel for her. Ilsa Dec 2016 #40
At the ripe old age of 22, my Jarhead Dad voted for Ike in 1952. That was KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #65
And IMO, Ike wasn't so bad. Ilsa Dec 2016 #67
How little i care... Deuce Dec 2016 #41
Seems like the latest of a few mistakes she has made... jmg257 Dec 2016 #42
. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #45
Yeesh...what the...??? nt jmg257 Dec 2016 #49
People can't be this fucking stupid. They just can't be. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #44
No sympathy here blue cat Dec 2016 #52
You enroll in Trump University, you're going to get an education in fraud and scamming. Because duh. Squinch Dec 2016 #59
Don the Con TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #60
well ho lee fug inch IT! that was a soup RISE to all of us, wasn't it, tee? struggle4progress Dec 2016 #61
Just wait till the estimated 5M Trump supports lose coverage after Obamacare is repealed. Statistical Dec 2016 #66
Fuck her. She could have voted for Clinton. NO. SYMPATHY. GaYellowDawg Dec 2016 #68
kick Liberal_in_LA Dec 2016 #69
She wishes she had not voted? DFW Dec 2016 #71

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
3. She was fooled, just like a huge portion of Trump voters.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 10:58 AM
Dec 2016

I don't know how we educate these folks to help them realize Democrats are on their side, but it's got to be our top priority. People simply wouldn't vote for the Republican agenda if we could just help them connect the dots.

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
13. she wasn't fooled
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:30 AM
Dec 2016

unwittingly. There were plenty of stories out there about trump and how he runs things. She chose not to believe them. 'cause you know....libtards and their PC language of wanting people to be treated equally and their push for civility. I have no sympathy for her ignorant ass, she deserves the full experience of her trump presidency. May she get what she voted for.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
57. Do you think the average American is equipped to sift good information from an ocean of shit?
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 03:48 PM
Dec 2016

Dr. Oz's ratings suggest no.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
62. If not it is sad
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 06:59 PM
Dec 2016

That would mean the average American is missing a very basic human trait common sense and logic.

Don't have to be an intellectual to tell the difference between truth and straight up bullshit. At least generally speaking because there are some good lies,but most of the misinformation today is just outlandish garbage.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
70. Sad, yes. But I can't agree with anything agter that.
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 06:39 PM
Dec 2016

First and foremost, logic isn't innate. It's learned. If it isn't being taught in schools as a required topic, then most people aren't going to pick it up.

I don't think "common sense" is actually a thing, either. There's "street smarts" - a mode of problem solving largely formed through casual observation and trial-and-error; but because it is anecdotal, I think it largely useless for any problem more complicated than walking to corner store to pick up a gallon of milk. Today's issues aren't simple. To understand them, one need not be a polymath, but must be at least passingly familiar with a number of disciplines most people simply are not exposed to. Economics, sociology, political science, medicine, climatology... odds are your average citizen hasn't spent more than a few weeks studying any of these things. They are so unfamiliar with the fundamental precepts of these disciplines that they are unable to tell the experts from the bullshitters.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. Oh, bullshit - all you had to do was listen to the guy
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:59 AM
Dec 2016

I'm sorry, but there was no "deception" involved.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
22. Lol
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 12:04 PM
Dec 2016

Yes, my thoughts drive the outcomes of national elections.

A majority of voters didn't vote for this guy. In my state, the margin was 14% against Trump.

I'm going to be fine. These people need their noses rubbed in what they've done.

But if they want to keep punching themselves in the face, I'm pouring a tall drink and laughing at them.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
23. I would prefer our party figures out a way to reach them.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 12:22 PM
Dec 2016

Rather than just write them off as being stupid, or racist, or whatever. They want the same things we want. We need to be more effective at communicating that to them, and countering the Republican lies.

CincyDem

(6,353 posts)
26. I would prefer that our party figures out a way to draw in the 50% who DID NOT VOTE.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 12:49 PM
Dec 2016


Rather that trying to teach a frog latin, let's go figure out what will draw people into the process. What will make them care ?

I don't know the answer but there were a whole lot of people who stayed home. Some/many may have been in the "both are the same" camp but addressing the apathy of 85k voters in MiWiPa would have changed the world.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
33. Can't we do both?
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:34 PM
Dec 2016

I'm sure a lot of people who didn't vote did so because they think the parties are equivalent. Their votes don't matter. The same message can reach them.

blue cat

(2,415 posts)
51. We can
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 02:45 PM
Dec 2016

But there are some people we can't reach. We should not become more like trump to reach out.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
54. And I never said we should. You shouldn't imply I did.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 03:31 PM
Dec 2016

I expressly stated our message, our agenda, is on their side. They want economic stability, affordable healthcare, safety, etc. The Democrats are the party to give that to them. The Republican agenda is just more profit and chaos (that the rich profit from).

We have to get better at communicating this.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
37. "Rather that trying to teach a frog latin"
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:47 PM
Dec 2016

Very well put, LOL.

I agree, lets work on those who did not vote because Sanders did not win the nomination, their level of thought is much higher than those who voted for Trump, they are not fanatics like those who voted for Trump, and they are open minded, unlike those who voted for Trump.

Trump supporters will never learn, I bet this woman will vote republican again in the next election. They don't do any research, they just help the team win regardless of the consequences.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
63. In order for us to draw all the
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 07:11 PM
Dec 2016

people who didn't vote. We would have to do it through legislation like making it mandatory to vote or at the very least make it much easier to vote. Problem is we have no power. Republicans control 60 plus of the 90 or so state legislatures most of the Governorship,the Congress,the Senate and their going to have the President and Supreme court. We have to find a way to teach some frogs Latin as you say if we are going to start winning again.

May sound good to get close 100% of the population to vote,but doing that through a powerful message alone is a fantasy. I doubt that has ever happened in America or anywhere else in the world.
 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
35. No she was not fooled, her comment says it all
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:42 PM
Dec 2016

"I wish I hadn't vote"...She would have rather not vote than to cast her vote for a real candidate, not sure how it was for her during Bill Clinton, but it was good for most of the country....These people don't learn, they don't do their research, they are fanatics.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
43. She was fooled into believing Hillary was "as bad as" (or worse) than Trump.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 02:18 PM
Dec 2016

Because let's get real, none of the things they attacked Hillary with was true. E-mail server, Benghazi, Clinton Foundation, all lies. But people believed it - why? Hint: it's not because every Trump voter is a stupid, evil racist.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
64. She was fooled into being a republican
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 07:16 PM
Dec 2016

Would've been the same thing regardless of who the Democratic candidate was. Notice in the article she said "she wish she hadn't voted.' However every she never said she wished she would've voted for someone else. Which makes me think she thought voting for repukes was her only option.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
48. I guess that proves it.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 02:31 PM
Dec 2016

An anonymous writeup on a random website is good enough for court testimony, so I've heard.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
50. That in concert with her being a Trump Humper. It's called a trend.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 02:39 PM
Dec 2016

By your metric every single thing can be dismissed with "random website".

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
53. FFS
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 03:29 PM
Dec 2016

You're doing exactly what these so-called "Trump Humpers" did. They're given a link, it says what they want to believe, and they embrace it. And then when asked to think critically about it, they attack the messenger. Again, just like you did. Isn't that interesting?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
55. There are no lengths some won't go to cover for Trump Humpers.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 03:43 PM
Dec 2016

Amazing you are now equating me with a Trump Humper. The one being discussed in the op is admittedly one.

What is interesting is the angle you are taking.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
56. Perhaps you should request I be banned.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 03:46 PM
Dec 2016

Even though I didn't "equate" you to a "Trump Humper," but only pointed out that you are doing the same specific action here. Namely, finding a piece of information you like, and defending it uncritically as the "truth" against all other viewpoints.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
2. A Trump Voter Gets Buyer's Remorse
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 10:55 AM
Dec 2016

She'll be joined by tens of millions more Trump voters as legions of Magoos realize that they should have studied a candidate's character, past actions, and associates BEFORE they cast their ballots.

This isn't rocket science. This doesn't require a college degree. This doesn't even require a high school diploma. I am convinced that even a halfway-alert high school dropout had the tools available to show that voting for the Donald was a poor choice.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
4. Well, there is some justice after all.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 10:58 AM
Dec 2016

Millions of her fellow assholes will soon feel similar pain. The mid-term election (assuming we ever have another election) will be interesting indeed.

Tactical Peek

(1,208 posts)
7. "Expose and educate."
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:06 AM
Dec 2016

Expose and educate.

Expose and educate.

Expose and educate.


Rinse, repeat.


(James Carville's prescription.)

Tactical Peek

(1,208 posts)
10. Apparently, just not vote.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:20 AM
Dec 2016

That's what she said.

Bad as Trump is, and accommodating as the media bosses were, there is still plenty of room for the Ds to give people more reasons to vote for them.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
9. Sounds like she was speculating on the real estate market and got burned
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:17 AM
Dec 2016

She bought a multi-unit dwelling for $248,000 in 1998 and 17 years later she owes $517k. Her loan at the time of the crash, 10 years after buying the place, was interest only?

Let's be honest here. This was a business that she happened to live in. Businesses fail especially when you make poor decisions. I guess she didn't read any of his books.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
18. No she doesn't
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:47 AM
Dec 2016

I bet what she did was buy the place with as little down as possible to maximize leverage. She then makes improvements to the building and is able to charge a higher rent because the building is nicer than it was. She then probably went back to the bank and they valued the property at a much higher value due to: the improvements, the increased income from the rentals, and probably market factors because the real estate market in California during this period was on fire. She now would have a lot more equity in the place that she could pull out via a refinance.

It says in the article that she used the money to buy other properties so she was presumably doing the same thing. This works so long as the market keeps going up and you can service the debt. We all know what happened to the market though. So she gets hit by the double whammy of tightening credit and renters who can't afford to pay rent.

I made a lot of assumptions in the above but that would be my guess on what happened to her.

Ace Rothstein

(3,160 posts)
11. I actually LOL'd at her.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:25 AM
Dec 2016

I have no compassion for anyone who votes Republican and expects them to stick up for anyone who isn't wealthy.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
15. A telling quote in there...
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:37 AM
Dec 2016
"I just wish that I had not voted," said Colebrook, 59. "I have no faith in our government anymore at all. They all promise you the world at the end of a stick and take it away once they get in."


In other words, he's bad, but not really worse than any other gov't official.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
16. Sure shes brainwashed by the news media's false equivalency big lie
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:42 AM
Dec 2016

Republicans and Democrats all the same folks, might as well elect Hitler.

Johonny

(20,834 posts)
17. She has no faith in government because she got the government she always votes for.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:42 AM
Dec 2016

Meaning she really has no faith in herself, and frankly seeing how she chooses politicians to represent her, her lack of faith is justified.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
39. This is what I have been saying for a long time to people I know
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:56 PM
Dec 2016

and I don't understand why they don't understand.

These people hate government because they continue to vote for the people that screw them...don't expect a different outcome if you continue to do what you have been doing.

People are not mad at government, they are mad at the crooked politicians from the republican party who made it their goal from day one to oppose, indiscriminately, whatever Obama tried to do for the good of the country, that is what they hate, but can't come to terms with it.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
29. She should be wishing she voted for Hillary
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:12 PM
Dec 2016

because it was fucking obvious this is exactly what Trump was going to do. Past is prologue. The guy has never done anything but screw over ordinary people.

lark

(23,093 posts)
31. People like her have destroyed our country.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:29 PM
Dec 2016

I don't feel a single iota of pity for her, she helped choose the orange fuhrer and paid less than zero attention to everything bad that he's done, or said, paid no attention to his actual record and just like his simple declarative hitleseque lies. She and millions like her will rue 11/8, however the damage is done, our country and way of life are well on the way to being destroyed and it's because of assholes like her.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
32. Oh please, Teena. You didn't vote for him because he would get rid of "moneyed elites" in DC.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:30 PM
Dec 2016

He IS a moneyed elite.

You voted for him because of the dog whistles he employed throughout his campaign. Come on, he started his campaign by calling Mexican immigrants rapists. What made you listen to him after THAT?

No, you voted for him because he promisted to fully restore white supremacy in the USA. Then it dawned on you that he played you. He played you using your racism, like the GOP have been doing since they came up with the "Southern Strategy" in the 1960s.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
36. STFU Teena.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:45 PM
Dec 2016

If you hadn't voted at all, it would be the same as VOTING FOR HIM. Duh. No sympathy for these fools. NONE.

LiberalFighter

(50,890 posts)
38. I have absolutely no sympathy for her or any other like her.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:52 PM
Dec 2016

She is a lame brain that should be ridiculed anytime she opens her mouth.


Her statement, "I have no faith in our government anymore at all. They all promise you the world at the end of a stick and take it away once they get in.", is ludicrous. The reason why she doesn't have any faith in the government is because she and many others like her make bad choices when voting. She likely voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 and for McCain and Romney. So she should STFU. Especially considering that she lives in Orange County which hasn't voted Democratic since 1936.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
40. If she was only 25 yo, I might feel for her.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:58 PM
Dec 2016

But she's been around the block enough to know that she should have looked at the candidates harder and applied some critical thinking skills.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
65. At the ripe old age of 22, my Jarhead Dad voted for Ike in 1952. That was
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 07:17 PM
Dec 2016

the last time he ever voted for a Republican. So he wised up, but some folks never do.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
67. And IMO, Ike wasn't so bad.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:47 PM
Dec 2016

The Repubs of today are scary, like the ones that tried to overthrow Roosevelt. This generation of Roves, Segrettis, Nixon, and the ones running the apparatus, and then their students and the next batch and the next are deadly people.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
42. Seems like the latest of a few mistakes she has made...
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 02:14 PM
Dec 2016
In 1998, she bought a triplex for $248,000 in Hawthorne, California, not too far from Los Angeles International Airport.

She rented out two of the units and lived in the third. Colebrook refinanced her mortgage in order to renovate the property and help buy additional homes to generate rental income.

By the time the financial crisis struck in 2008, she had an interest-only mortgage on the triplex known as a "pick-a-payment" loan. Her monthly payments ran as high as $2,000 and only covered the interest on the debt. Then she got ensnarled in the economic downturn.

"All my tenants lost their jobs in the crash," Colebrook said. "They couldn't pay. It was a knock-on effect."


Make bad decisions, get bad results.
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
44. People can't be this fucking stupid. They just can't be.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 02:23 PM
Dec 2016

"the belief that he would knock the moneyed elites from their perch in Washington, D.C."

When I see this level of stupidity I know there is more to it.

She sounds like a Trumpster. Is this her?

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Tina-Colebrook/hawthorne-California-90250/Tina-Colebrook-DISHONEST-SHADY-BAD-CHARACTER-COMPULSIVE-LIER-GREEDY-hawthorne-Califor-1162281

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
66. Just wait till the estimated 5M Trump supports lose coverage after Obamacare is repealed.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:00 PM
Dec 2016

I mean this is like a snake saying "I am a snake and if you get close I will bite you and then you will die". A Trumper would try to pet it and then be "shocked" he got bit.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
71. She wishes she had not voted?
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 06:48 PM
Dec 2016

Why, so she could complain and not have her vote tossed back in her face?

Not voting was just as much a vote for Trump as actively voting for him. It was a little before the fact, but she did in fact get what she voted for. The "I was fooled/betrayed" argument does not play with me this time. It's not like it took a PhD in political science to figure out which candidate would be more beneficial to the country, and conceivably more beneficial to you as an individual. She voted for her slogans. She should get, and should continue to get, what mere slogans are worth: a place in a line at a soup kitchen and a sleeping bag at a shelter.

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