Lieberman: Dems won't win with slide to left

[demmiblue]

Source: The Hill

Former Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) argues the Democratic Party will not win elections if the liberal wing of the party takes over.

"Here is my fear about the future of the Democratic Party. In a way, relatively speaking, Hillary Clinton was representative of ... center-left of the Democratic Party, not the pure left," Lieberman said in a radio interview with John Catsimatidis on Sunday.

"Now I think there will be a real attempt by the left-left of the Democratic Party to take over the party, and I don't think that's the way to go to make it an effective party," he continued.

"It's certainly not the party that I got drawn to ... it's not the party that I worked so hard for when Bill Clinton was president and it's not going to be a winning party."

<snip>

"To me, both parties better watch out not to go back to the extremes — left and right — and not working with each other. I think that the public really wants both parties to get together, work together and solve some of the problems of our country, make the future better," he said.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/308652-former-dem-senator-democratic-party-will-not-be-a-winning-party

Sadly, a fair number of centrist Democrats would side with Lieberman on this. Also, go back to extremes? What is so extreme about the left wing of the Democratic Party? It has been shown that the general public actual likes the ideas and policies of those on the left when polled about policy and not party.

[hrmjustin]

1. Democrats should not reflexively go to the left or the center.

Life is complicated as is politics. Some districts or state will want a more liberal candidate and some will want a more moderate candidate. We are a big party.

[demmiblue]

8. While I see your point, I think he is talking about the party as a whole.

There are just some things that can't and shouldn't be compromised.

[hrmjustin]

9. True. There are things we can not compromise on.

[still_one]

21. Not to change the subject, but why would we care what someone who spported John McCain

and tutored Sarah Palin thinks?

[pangaia]

33. +1000.6935

[hrmjustin]

3. I would take Bernie over Lieberman any day of the week.

[SharonAnn]

7. Me too. Lieberman was a conservative, Republican Democrat.

[elleng]

27. More like not RECOGNIZED as the TRUE Democrat that he is.

[wordpix]

54. +1000 Liberman the DINO should join the repugs

he no doubt votes that way

[putitinD]

77. Lieberman cost us single payer. He can't be trusted

[pennylane100]

13. He has not been a real democrat for years.

He endorsed John McCain for president, lost his status as super delegate and his portrait has been delegated to a closet. He is a disgusting traitor and somehow you think he is more democrat than for Bernie, that is mind blowing,

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/18/world/americas/18iht-lieberman.1.10144352.html

[pennylane100]

22. There were also many Hillary bashing threads during the primary.

However, all REAL members of the democratic party came together to endorse her when she won the Primary. I know that I did the moment she became our candidate.

The magic D that you speak of became poison to him when he shed it to run against the person that had beat him in the primary and he ran as an independent. He often praised Donald Rumsfeld and was a strong supporter of the Iraq war. The man lost all credibility years ago yet somehow you seem to think that the D next to his name forgives all his sins. Thankfully you are in the minority.

[demmiblue]

25. Wow.

[StevieM]

68. First of all, I hope you noticed that your next post will be your 3000th post.

Before you reply to me, or anybody else, I hope you will compose an awesome 3000th post to commemorate the occasion. Congratulations in advance on the milestone.

I think it is amazing that some Hillary-bashers actually compared her to Joe Lieberman and suggested that her nomination as the same thing as if we had nominated him.

[demmiblue]

72. I hope you noticed that your next post will be your 4,821 post.

Perhaps you could use it to be truthful.

Sadly, even on DU we experience the post-truth phenomenon.

Joe Lieberman=Hillary Clinton... said no DUer ever.

I wonder why someone would want to spread such falsities...

[StevieM]

73. Wow, you have read every DU post ever?

I am impressed.

Regardless, I did not say that there were threads on DU saying this. I said that many Hillary-bashers treated her that way, and I actually did hear that comparison made.

[demmiblue]

74. Lol... you are a piece of work!

[BlueProgressive]

89. I believe Duckhunter is being sarcastic....

while accurately imitating the behavior of some people here.

[demmiblue]

17. I think you missed his/her point. n/t

[QC]

24. Yep, a Real Democrat just like Joe Manchin, Bob Rubin,

Larry Summers, Ben Nelson, and Rahm Emmanuel.

Not an old hippy!!!

[guillaumeb]

4. So the poster child of conservative politicians who pose as Democrats

offers his advice. Lieberman could just as easily have run as a GOP candidate pre-Gingrich.

[Horse with no Name]

5. Fuck off LIE....berman

You are irrelevant.

[backscatter712]

6. Says the DINO who was part of yet another presidential election loss.

Every presidential election campaign he participated in - Gore's, McCain's, he fucking lost.

He's got the reverse Midas Touch - everything he touches turns to shit.

[wordpix]

56. he is no doubt hoping Donald Duck will give him a new gig - SOS, maybe?

[alarimer]

11. If Democrats follow his advice, they deserve to become irrelevant.

His is a losing proposition for sure.

Only progressives (whatever their party or lack thereof) need apply as far as I am concerned, not DINOS, like Lieberman.

[spanone]

12. any democrat that would consider lieberman's advice is a fool

[BigDemVoter]

14. FUCK YOU, Lieberman.

I recall hearing that back in 2008--straight from your ugly, stinky pie hole--maybe the stink came from playing kissy kissy with Sarah Palin?

[Paladin]

16. Fuck you where you breathe, Lieberman.

"...it's not the party that I worked so hard for...."

By giving a major speech at the republican convention?

Disappear, you traitorous little motherfucker.

[Sherman A1]

18. I would have to disagree with the former Senator

I believe that is precisely what needs to happen.

[Wounded Bear]

19. I thought you retired, Joe....

probably better if you stay that way.

[heaven05]

20. fuck lieberman

yet I don't see the democratic party with any significant power leverage at any time in the next generation or two? Bannon,trumpfuhrer, ryan, the New Nazi Party of ameriKKKa(aka repubparty) will not relinquish power easily. Hopefully, like the first Reich, it will only last 12 years.

[RBInMaine]

44. Please, don't be such a white flag waiver. We had millions more votes than Trump. Just gotta fix the

party and make it work right. Our ideas are overwhelmingly popular. We just need a party that knows how to deliver them.

[heaven05]

76. the white flag???

I am looking at the american flag flying upside down. Remain as you are, you might be right. Maybe ameriKKKa can be fixed. We will see, sooner rather than later, and again, FUCK lieberman.

[Baitball Blogger]

23. Why is anyone listening to that idiot?

Didn't he take advantage of the uneducated voters in Conn? Much like what Trump did.

[rurallib]

26. according to the MSM the "center" has gone so far right that it is now

the old republican party.

But when asked issue by issue most of America is still FDR lefty.

Oh and fuck you Joe L. Crawl back in that fucking hole with your buddy Johnny Mac

[CentralMass]

28. Says Joe who lost with his slide to the right.

[immoderate]

29. No one ever went broke from ignoring Joe Lieberman!

--imm

[pangaia]

31. Is he still alive?

[WhiteTara]

32. Another fake Democrat. Go away Joe.

[RAFisher]

34. BULLSHIT! Joe flirted with Trump last election. Now he's saying Clinton was the perfect canidate?

From August:

Lieberman told Fox Business he would vote for Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee, in November.

He had left open the possibility of supporting Trump, the GOP nominee, in recent days.

"I'm one of those people, and there are a lot of us, who don't quite feel comfortable either way yet," Lieberman said on Fox News last week.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290961-lieberman-supports-clinton-after-flirting-with-trump

[paleotn]

35. I think Harry Truman would call Joe an idiot for saying that....

here's what he supposedly had to say about stealth Rethuglicans like Lieberman.

If a voter has a choice between a Republican and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, he’ll vote for the Republican every time.

History certain bears this out. Add to that the fact that when presented with actual, liberal policies a large majority of Americans side with the liberals..

[vanlassie]

36. The Joe Lieberman who said it was really

No Big Deal if a women was raped, and ended up in a Catholic hospital where they would refuse to give her a morning after pill to "just take a short drive to some other nearby hospital." THAT Joe Lieberman?? Fuck him.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

37. Horseshit Joe

Go back to being retired.

[otohara]

52. CO Rejected

the pricey ColoradoCare by a whopping 80/20.

You know who was out here 4 times campaigning for it.

[kebob]

38. Shut up, Traitor Joe!

I haven't forgotten 2008.

[andym]

39. The man who refused to allow a Medicare buy in for 55 year olds as part of the ACA

after he had previously publicly supported the idea.

[Vinca]

40. He's entirely wrong.

Even far righties love Medicare and Social Security and they would love single-payer healthcare just as much. The problem is the messenger and how the message is delivered.

[LiberalFighter]

41. If I saw the creep I would tell him to STFU.

[mike_c]

42. is Joe Lieberman still talking...?

Certainly, he is still irrelevant.

[HughBeaumont]

43. OH, look, the chief reason for W.

Fuck off, Lieberturd. Once again, you're completely out of touch in the modern political spectrum and DON'T THINK I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN your horseshit move of denying America a public option. No quarter for those who make human rights harder to achieve.

[easttexaslefty]

45. Dear joe,

Go get fucked.

[Vogon_Glory]

46. More Loser Advice From Old Joe

More loser advice from old Joe Lieberman.

I may not be particularly liberal, but one of the reasons we got hammered in the last election is because Hillary sounded a little too centrist.

Centrist is only relative. "Centrism" these days (Sorry, David Brooks, but you're wrong, too) is closer to Richard Nixon-style Republicanism without Tricky Dick's nastiness.

Joe, go hang out with your remaining whiny Dixiecrat friends. You know them, the guys still complaint about the Democratic Party being too friendly with people of color and too reliant on FDR-style (eek! A mouse!) "big government." We aren't interested in your bad counsel.

[no_hypocrisy]

47. Wasn't so much a problem when FDR, HST, JFK, LBJ, and Jimmy Carter leaned left.

[bluedigger]

48. That's reason enough for me to turn to the Left.

[Iggo]

49. He's not dead yet?

[roamer65]

50. LIEberworm.

[lonestarnot]

51. I thought old irrelevant droopy dog was under a rock. Who moved the damn rock?

[wordpix]

58. not true but welcome to DU!

Lieberman is not well liked here, to say the least, since he literally embraced McCain and kissed Bush2

[Vogon_Glory]

59. Nope, not true

I think even most of the millenials who post here recognize what a transformational figure FDR was, especially when compared to do-nothing's like most of that era's GOP and do-next-to-nothing's like Herbert Hoover.

I don't like Old Joe either. It's not simply ideology, but party loyalty. Old Joe has been anything BUT a Democratic Party loyalist for years.

Before I post this, though, I've got a question. We all know how many times Old Joe spoke before a Republican national convention decrying the Democratic Party. My question to you is how many times did FDR do the same?

[Warpy]

55. Shut up, Lieberman, you don't get to make the rules

especially because you quit the party and hung onto office just long enough to fuck up the ACA by single handedly preventing a lowering of the Medicare eligibility age.

Asshole! Just go away.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

57. Joe Lieberman? The guy who endorsed McCain in 2008?

The guy who ran for the Senate on the "Connecticut for Lieberman" party after losing the primary to ned Lamont, even though he himself was never a member of that party, but instead remained a registered Democrat while he ran? That weasel?

Fuck Joe Lieberman.

[Skittles]

60. Lieberman can fuck himself

he has certainly fucked us enough

[JonLP24]

61. We won't win following Lieberman's advice

How many Republicans has he supported?

[benld74]

62. BACK under the rock whence you can Joe

[tonedevil]

63. The Connecticut for Leiberman...

Leiberman? Can't imagine a more complete waste of human flesh.

[rusty fender]

64. Fuck off, Joementum!

[Raine]

65. FUCK OFF backstabber who spoke at reTHUG convention to endorse McCain over Obama

who cares what this irrelevant ass has to say about ANYTHING!

[LWolf]

66. Well, that settles that question.

If Lieberman says it, we all have to assume it's truth.


Do I really need this?

[StevieM]

67. Amazingly, many Hillary-haters acted like her nomination was the equivalent of running

Joe Lieberman as our candidate.

[demmiblue]

70. Lol! Y'all are a funny sort.

[hatrack]

69. STFU, Senator Has-Been

Who gives a rip what Holy Joe thinks or says or does?

[Dem2]

71. Fuck off Lie-bermann you right-wing troll

God I never want to hear another word from this backstabber.

[eppur_se_muova]

75. FUJL nt

[mountain grammy]

78. Joe who????

[Larkspur]

79. Ditto.

[Solly Mack]

80. He talks as if the right hasn't been "extreme" for years and years and years.

Snort

[jmowreader]

81. One LEETLE problem, Joe...

As far to the right as this country has been pushed by Trump, his minions and the teabaggers, anyone we can possibly come up with is gonna look like Che Guevara by comparison.

[Freethinker65]

82. Waiting for Zell Miller's opinion... hahaha

[MFM008]

83. Who?

.............

[TransitJohn]

84. Newsflash, Lieberman!

"To me, both parties better watch out not to go back to the extremes — left and right — and not working with each other."

The Republicans have been there for decades! What a complete fucking asshat.

[Crunchy Frog]

85. He really needs to just go jump off a cliff at this point.

Someone with the platform of Eisenhower would be considered a fringe leftist by today's standards.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

86. Sure Lieberman

The rightward tilt really helped you.

[pansypoo53219]

87. IF hillary had gone FARTHER left, she might have won. lieberfuckenputz is vichy.

and he needs to go away.

[area51]

88. LIEberman?

The guy who ensured that we didn't get a public option w/GingrichCare?