I'm going to have Christmas dinner with relatives

[shadowrider]

who all voted Trump. I'm going to be outnumbered about 30 to 1.

I don't like to argue but I know someone is going to start talking cheeto.

Do I argue back or just let it go?

I've been having dinner with them for the last 20 years.

This is the first year I'm dreading it...

[Warpy]

1. You could prepare to leave

Either go home or decamp to a motel or come back in an hour and ask them if they're done. You could tell them you have no intention of ruining the holiday with politics, how about them (insert sports team)?

Or you could come down with the flu and not go at all.

[shadowrider]

5. I'll go.

But changing the subject is good.

I may just start out saying anyone that talks politics and I'm outta here.

It's worth a shot.

[pangaia]

2. Go armed to the teeth with facts and history.

The stand your ground.

That's what I have decided to do at our townhouse board meetings.

Was not pleasant at the first one, but I refuse to let these fuckers get away with blathering their ignorance into the air I must breathe.

[elleng]

3. Considering the ratio, I'd let it go and enjoy dinner!

[SMC22307]

10. Same here. (n/t)

[MineralMan]

4. In my family, there are rules against discussions

of politics and religion at family holiday gatherings. We just don't do it. Instead, we talk about what we have in common, which is family. It's been a rule for as long as I can remember, and any violations are quickly ended by common assent.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

6. My honest question to you is:

Why go? Why subject yourself to such misery.

If you really see no way out of it, can you convince whoever is hosting that no politics should be discussed at dinner? Although if everyone else is a Trump person, I can't see that happening.

Of course, as Pangaia said, arm yourself with facts. And do not back down.

I still say, don't go. But if you do,

[shadowrider]

7. It's a tradition, I have to go

but will request no politics be discussed. Instead we can all commiserate about the Browns.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

16. I'm guessing that if they all voted for Trump this year,

then for a very long time you've had a very different political outlook. You have my sympathy.

[Shemp Howard]

8. Do the right thing. Do not argue back.

And by the same token, do not accept any of their arguments. Just change the subject, repeatedly if necessary. Kids, sports, whatever. Make it obvious, if necessary.

Gentle deflections work, too. Such as "You might be right." Notice it's not "You might be right, but...". Then change the subject.

I'm of the opinion the misguided people should not be treated the same way as one treats evil people. I make allowances for misguided people, and try to find ways to work around their misguidedness (is that even a word?).

It's a family dinner, it's not a presidential debate. Be kind.

[Initech]

9. I'd change the subject. If not, have facts ready.

Facts usually shut down political arguments because right wingers simply don't care about them.

[TeamPooka]

11. Netflix and chill at home.

[HockeyMom]

12. My husband's got the opposite problem

He will be having dinner with his wife, two daughters, and their spouses, all of whom voted for Hillary. He knows better than to bring up politics, with us. Five against one.

I suppose you can just change the subject to keep the peace, as the only Republican in our family has done for years. Husband doesn't like all these women ganging up on him, including his lesbian DIL. SIL won't help because he voted for Hillary too.

You have my sympathy.

[No Vested Interest]

13. Inasmuch as 30 people will be there, some will not be much interested in politics.

Make your way around the group.

When the subject gets testy, move on to someone who is not getting much attention, and find out what is going on in his/her life.
The day will go quickly, and before you know it, it will be time to go home.

Family is family; life is too short to let open divisions come between family members.

[shadowrider]

15. And normally

there is no discussion of politics. I'm hoping for that.

This year seems different.

I hope I'm wrong.

[MichMary]

28. You are so right!

I made up my mind a long time ago that I wouldn't ever lose a relationship over differing political views. If I want other people to respect my opinion, I will treat theirs with respect.

[Skittles]

14. I wouldn't go

seriously, I would not even have an appetite

[roamer65]

17. I second Skittles motion.

I am planning on skipping Christmas with relatives who voted for Dump. I don't need them nor want to be around them.

[Cracklin Charlie]

18. Take a bag of cheetos...

Just open it up and eat one every time they say something about him.

[phylny]

25. Hah!

"Cheeto , anyone?"

[Vinca]

19. That would be absolutely miserable if you ask me. Why subject yourself to it?

Maybe, after 20 years, it's time for a change.

[shadowrider]

20. I grew up with them

They're family. To trash that over one election isn't an option.

I'll change the subject, walk out to grab a smoke, whatever I have to do.

Anyone that allows family ties to be destroyed over one election, well, better not said.

[LenaBaby61]

30. I grew up with them ..

Have a good friend who is from WV but was lucky that her parents moved her nd her brother away from there when they were kids, and she cut her family/relatives LOOSE this past Summer for the last time, and she feels so good about her decision, and I'm proud of her.

She got tired of them calling Michelle a big, black ugly gorilla meanwhile saying that Melaria's a beautiful, smart woman who'll represent this country well as a real First Lady (I guess a European, escorting/mail order briding, birther, naked picture-taking, girl on girl action lover and plagiarizer is much more respectable than being an highly-intelligent/articulate, lovely, African-American college graduate).

She also won't subject her husband/young children to their hatred and racism of black folks either. An Auntie who thinks like my friend does but stays quiet because she's scared of being confronted by her tRump-loving racist son and daughter-in-law and other racist POS called her and told her that they're talking about her like a dog, and she told me that she'll be watching and waiting when the bottom falls OUT for them in WV, and it WILL, because tRump was given the presidency and he won't follow through with all those fantastic jobs or with anything he promised the deplorables there in WV.

Anyway, good luck to you shadowrider, and have a happy holiday season

[SecularMotion]

21. You could always talk about guns

[shadowrider]

23. I could

but they aren't gun owners.

[eShirl]

22. Why not tell them it's Christmas, give it a rest.

[nini]

24. Ask them to not bring it up ahead of time

If they can't contain themselves just get up and leave If they can't respect you enough to not talk about it they're not worth being around.

[shadowrider]

27. I think that's what I'm gonna do

Christmas isn't a time for division.

[nini]

31. Hopefully they'll just talk about all those other things you have in common

Good luck

[hrmjustin]

26. Drink early and drink often.

[madokie]

29. I'm just going to smile as I look them in the eye

They'll get the picture. I have a big ass Bernie sticker on the back window on my Truck so they'll know where I'm coming from. No Bernie Supporters voted for tRump that I know of that is

I damn sure didn't

[BigBadDem]

32. There are several threads you could refer to regarding what to do

1. Go and shame every single one of them. Never back down and never apologize
2. Disown your family. Real liberals must draw the line and disown family members that support racism, sexism, homophobia, islamophobia and all the other deplorable things of that side.
3. Go and be chummy with them, but don't come back here, and don't call your self a liberal because this stuff is not tolerated at all on our side!

[ismnotwasm]

34. What the actual fuck dude?

[kentuck]

33. Or don't discuss it at all...

Because, even if they voted for Trump, they are probably having buyer's remorse already? Sometimes silence is the greatest way to make a point.