HEADLINE ON HUFFPOST NOW: Republican Elector Vows To Vote Against Donald Trump

[BigBearJohn]

Last edited Tue Dec 6, 2016, 12:55 AM - Edit history (1)

“I owe no debt to a party. I owe a debt to my children to leave them a nation they can trust,” he wrote.

[LonePirate]

1. Unless he plans to vote for Hillary along with almost 40 others, it doesn't matter what he says/does

[MontanaMama]

2. No shit.

He is preaching to the choir. There is only one right thing to do.

[jimlup]

7. Well at least it is a number down from Trump's column

Meaning Hillary needs to flip one less Electoral vote. So now she only needs to flip ... I also don't think the news out of the recounts is very good. There is bad news in Detroit.

They can't do the recount because they've apparently screwed up the polling data.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/05/recount-unrecountable/95007392/

I realize that not allowing Trump to prevail in the Electoral college is very unlikely at this point. Still I'm holding out for any hope. I'm a MoveOn.org recount Monitor in Michigan... my county will be solid though and it already went hard Blue so I expect to be mostly bored.

[Silent3]

8. Actually, as long as about 40 Trump electors vote non-Trump...

...whether they vote for Clinton or someone else, as long as Trump ends up with fewer than 270 electoral votes, the election gets decided by the House from among the top three candidates chosen by the electors.

There's a very low chance of Clinton winning that way. What there is a higher chance of, however, is some non-Trump Republican winning -- probably not someone we DUers would like very much, but at least someone less terrifying than Trump.

I don't think there's much question most Republicans in the House would prefer someone other than Trump win. What's more problematic is, even if the EC gives them the chance, how many Republicans would risk anger from their base by voting against Trump?

Also, no matter how much most Democrats in the House would want to vote for Clinton, could we get them, as a strategic move, to vote for the alternate Republican so fewer anti-Trump Republicans would be needed to thwart Trump? It would be a good move if this happens for Clinton herself to ask Democrats for the non-Trump Republican.

I'd love to dream of all Democrats voting for Clinton plus enough break-away Republicans voting for her, but that seems far less likely.

The House has to keep voting until one candidate gets a majority of the states (just one vote per state -- I have no idea how that's resolved between among the representatives for each state). If January 20th comes and no final decision has been reached, the Vice President (presumably Pence, unless the VP vote also gets similarly fucked up, then I think we'd be in uncharted territory) becomes acting President until the presidential vote is settled.

[LonePirate]

11. I think there is a zero chance the House would select anyone but Trump.

They are rabidly afraid of his supporters and their assumed affinity for violence or political retribution. Not only that but many of them owe their seat to Trump as he turned out the racist rural and suburban white vote who elected them in large numbers.

[Quixote1818]

10. Would it could mean is a more experienced Republican

Maybe someone like John Kasich or Mitt Romney.

[William Seger]

16. The plan is to vote for another Republican and get Clinton's electors to go along

... giving a clean win to "anyone but Trump." It's not a bad idea, to make the best of an extremely bad situation.

[jg10003]

3. It's a start. He should be applauded so that others will follow his example.

[lonestarnot]

9. Referencing Kasich. I wouldn't get too happy.

LOL

[jg10003]

14. not happy, but not afraid for the survival of the republic

[JimBeard]

4. Would you mind supplying a link for this. I would like to read more but can't

find it . I might be in the wrong place

[lonestarnot]

5. Here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141632364

[JimBeard]

12. Thanks

[lonestarnot]

13. You also might want to listen to synch or whatever his name is over here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017413596#post1

hamiltonelectors.com

[lonestarnot]

6. He's going to vote for Kassicky (Kasich)

[C Moon]

15. We're living in historic times...and it sucks. This election was STOLEN!...and that's being ignored.

[tandem5]

17. It most likely won't have any impact, but it's one less vote for a monster and I'll take it!