Trump allies defend his election lie as refreshing

[Bill USA]

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-allies-defend-his-election-lie-refreshing

Throughout his time in public life, Donald Trump has never been truth-oriented, but last week the president-elect told a rather specific lie: “I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.” This was a demonstrable falsehood, and neither Trump nor any of his allies have been able to bolster the bogus claim with evidence.

So instead, Team Trump has apparently embraced a post-modern debate about the inherent value and meaning of truth.

One pro-Trump pundit argued last week, for example, that there’s “no such thing” as facts anymore. Corey Lewandowski added that American voters “understood that sometimes, when you have a conversation with people, whether it’s around the dinner table or at a bar, you’re going to say things, and sometimes you don’t have all the facts to back it up.”

Outgoing RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, who’ll soon become the White House chief of staff, was asked on CBS’s “Face the Nation” yesterday about Trump lying about voter fraud. Priebus, without proof, said it’s “possible” that millions of illegal ballots were cast. When host John Dickerson noted that there is no evidence to support such a claim, Priebus responded, “I think the president-elect is someone who has pushed the envelope and caused people to think in this country.”
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[guillaumeb]

1. So speculation becomes proof?

Trump speculated for years about President Obama being foreign born.

America's new motto:

Dico ergo est

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. This bullshit is confusing the population to the point

Where the gullible are taking to the streets with AR15s an shooting up pizza parlors.

[Bill USA]

3. it seems like the GOP is actually trying to establish a degree of acceptability for insane

conjectures which in total make up the Conservative Alternate Universe - based on projections of repressed fears. To their advantage is the fact that Corporate M$M is totally servile to the Right Wing.

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. I think that the MSM hasn't kept up with what goes on in cyberspace.

They don't teach vandalism in journalism school, so to cope they can only attempt to normalize it somehow. This shit is so far removed from polite society norms that it doesn't compute, and the bastards that are doing it know it and are fully exploiting it right now. The day will come when people will be hardened to it ... I hope... But until then it's mayhem.

[TeamPooka]

5. FUCK THEM ALL. If we don't go nuclear on the GOP for the next 2-4 years what the fuck are

we doing here?
Twiddling our thumbs before we stick them up our ass and whine about trump and Rryan and preibus some more.
meanwhile they destroy the country and loot the treasury.
TOTAL FUCKING OBSTRUCTION in the House and Senate.
Nothing less.