Dumb ass wants to keep flying his own plane as POTUS.

[Cattledog]

Hope so...since it can't refuel mid-air or deflect missiles.

[elleng]

1. Right, looking forward to the downsides of that!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. That's so he can charge the government for it.

He can't make any money off the regular AF1.

[uponit7771]

8. +1

[DK504]

78. +1 as well.

Too bad that will be shot down, the idea that is.

[rurallib]

39. plus have us pay for improvements to make it president worthy.

what a phony.

[dhol82]

40. Doubt that can happen post production

too much wiring that needs to happen that can't.

[rurallib]

41. wouldn't put it past him to try.

[dhol82]

42. Hey, if he can make money from it then it has to be a go

[Angleae]

65. Want to bet?

There isn't much that can't be done to an airliner. Converting his 757 into a presidential plane would take a few months but it can be done. All the customized work on his plane was put in post-production. More can be added.

[mercuryblues]

70. Nope

AF1 hull is specially designed to survive a nuclear blast from the air. The wings have built in defense technology that can scramble missile guidance systems and other built in defense measures. It has 2 doors, each equipped with its own set of retractable stairs. To convert trump's plane into an AF1 the entire hull and wings will have to be replaced.

But hey, if trump wants to travel overseas in his own plane, who am I to stop him? Can we make it a law that Flynn, Ryan, turtle face and Cruz fly with him at all times?

[Maru Kitteh]

43. agreed. He will probably try to insist on using Trump water at State dinners

Probably has a whole building of miscreants trying to find ways to make money of us, the people who actually PAY our taxes.

[dixiegrrrrl]

3. ahhh..so, a silver lining then...

[Grassy Knoll]

35. Lol..

[ReverendHeretic]

36. Gold. he only uses gold

[NightWatcher]

4. I bet his plane doesn't have flares or missle countermeasures

I hope someone gets him some secure communications gear.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. I hope they don't.

[Renew Deal]

5. It's not that. It's revenge for criticism

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028337001

[irisblue]

6. what could go wrong?

[spanone]

7. he knows they'll put a billion in upgrades to make it safe for him.

it's all about the money

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. And it's an old 757 that he couldn't give away in its present condition.

If they did the upgrades to make it comparable to the existing AF1, a 747, that thing wouldn't be able to get off the ground.

[spanone]

13. hence the billion.

[NWCorona]

38. This!

[Paladin]

9. Trust me---he'd accept Air Force One.

If "TRUMP" were slapped on both sides of it, in 20-foot-high lettering. Hey, nobody's claiming that we're dealing with a sane individual, here. Not anymore.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. Only if the 20' lettering is in gold.

[pipi_k]

49. If he flies around

in a blimp, he can even have 100 foot lettering in gold on one side and his ugly orange likeness painted on the other side.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

50. That would be fitting: The new AF1 could be a blimp.

It could just cruise around slowly, low over cities, with blinking lights and TRUMP in huge letters.

Come to think of it, maybe a zeppelin might be even better. Like the Hindenburg. "Oh, the inanity!"

[Initech]

73. Trump Force One

[gwheezie]

12. I'm all for it because

What's more important being able to avoid a missle attack while protecting the free world while flying or gold-plated bathroom fixtures and a round bed with a mirror ceiling while flying.
Let trump have his comfort with no upgrades, pull the security from trump tower & tell the orange loon he's got to get with the program.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

15. Trump will not be protecting the free world no matter where he is.

If his plane doesn't have countermeasures I'm perfectly happy.

[RonniePudding]

28. Couldn't agree more

im sure everything will be fine.

[BigDemVoter]

26. I just physically shudder even thinking about what kinds of

horrors that have taken place in that nasty bed with a mirror on the ceiling. . . . The Donald's "Mile High Club."

[AngryAmish]

16. Which other ruler of a nation state has a plane that can refule

mid-air or deflect missiles?

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

30. We aerial refueled the Boeing 747 one time

It wasn't Air Force One because the president wasn't on it, but it's a HUGE m.f. when it's suspended 30 feet from your rear window.

[AngryAmish]

31. I assume it was a huge plow in the air putting the tanker every which way

F'er is huge.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

58. As it pulls into refueling position the autopilot trim goes crazy

trying to adjust for the 747's bow wave.

The refueling receptacle is below the cockpit windows, which puts you eye-to-eye with the pilots.

[trof]

17. Mid air refueling. I've done that. Many times. In a fighter.

I would have to assume that if AF1 has that capability the pilots have to practice it.
Damn, I would love to see that.

[FarCenter]

18. OK

[trof]

20. Thanks. Receptacle refueling. Easy peasy for the receiver.

I've done that. All you have to do is stabilize behind the tanker and the boom operator does all the work.

I did 'probe and drogue'.
I had to physically plug a (very phallic looking ) 6' 'probe' into a drogue basket and make it lock on before I could get fuel.

It could be quite a challenge, especially at night in thunderstorms.
But, hey.
I'm still here.

[awoke_in_2003]

24. Well, it is an Air Force plane...

isn't the Navy the one that uses probe and drogue?

[trof]

74. Nope. ALANG in the 60s and 70s.

RF-84/F

[trof]

21. Aw jeez. Still using Boeing KC-135s (B-707s). I refueled off of those in the 60s.

Flew them in the 80s.
Wow

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

61. They also fly KC-10s (modified DC-10s) which are enormous when you pull under them

if you're used to KC-135s

[trof]

19. St Elmos Fire during Aerial Refueling of E-4 by KC-135

I guess the E-4 is the military version of the 747.
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[FarCenter]

22. The Boeing E-4 Advanced Airborne Command Post,

When the President travels outside of North America using a VC-25A as Air Force One, an E-4B will deploy to a second airport in the vicinity of the President's destination, to be readily available in the event of a world crisis or an emergency that renders the VC-25A unusable.[citation needed] When the President visits Honolulu, Hawaii, an E-4B has often been stationed 200 miles away at Hilo International Airport on Hawaii Island.[26][27]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-4

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

60. When the E-4B (National Emergency Airborne Command Post, or NEACP)

would stay at March AFB near Riverside, CA, the electronics on the airplane would drive all the local automatic garage doors crazy.

[woodsprite]

79. I understand they do a lot of AF1 pilot practice down here at Dover AFB. n/t

[lindysalsagal]

23. I'd rather he rules from fRump Tower, as well.

The less contact he has with my country's presidency, the better.

You can twitter from anywhere.

[bettyellen]

77. No he's putting millions of innocent liberals at risk by living among us ....

At lest in DC there's huge buffers around him. NYC will be fucked just from weekend visits.

[BigDemVoter]

25. He'll want it retrofitted, and guess who he'll "ask" to pay for it?

[RonniePudding]

27. I think it's a great idea actually

[MineralMan]

29. Dumbass wants dumbass things?

Surprise, surprise...

[barbtries]

32. what he really wants

is to get paid for it. he's angling for the bucks that go straight into his own fucking pocket. jmo

[flying-skeleton]

33. That is the first thing that I agree with Trump

Let him fly on his own plane

[kimbutgar]

34. He needs to $hit on his gold toilet.

Airforce one has a regular toilet and the black man cooties you know.

[NBachers]

37. He doesn't pay taxes, but he'll turn in his per-mile charge to the taxpayers for payment.

[Martin Eden]

44. Will Pence fly with him?

In some ways he's more dangerous than Trump.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

45. It's all about his ego. . . . nt

[krispos42]

46. You mean the one that can't interface with secure military and other government communications...

...doesn't have mid-air refueling, doesn't have chaff and flare dispensers or electronic jamming to confuse and decoy anti-aircraft missiles, and is smaller and older?

Excellent. The less able he is to exert his power, the better.

[Cracklin Charlie]

57. The taxpayers will surely pay...

to retrofit Shitler's dinky pos airplane.

I'm certain it will need a YUGE number of upgrades.

[bdamomma]

47. can it withstand a nuclear event

[Equinox Moon]

48. No donald! You will not be a private citizen for 4 years.

Or less when we impeach you.

[pnwmom]

67. Why not? Who cares if his stupidity causes his early demise? n/t

[Equinox Moon]

75. Oh, I agree with you, no loss if his security is on the light side.

My comment was with sarcasm re: DT does not understand he will be "in service" and not a private citizen while in office.

[pbmus]

51. LMAO..

[bdamomma]

52. well

you won't miss his last name being on the plane because he likes to display himself.

[lonestarnot]

53. No objection from me. He can ride a fucking donkey for what I would give a fuck about. Only

concern I would have, would be the poor fucking donkey.

[lonestarnot]

54. He's already as good as said the White House, the Peoples' House is not good enough for his rich ass

Now the plane isn't good enough. Fuck that bitch, let him walk.

[WillowTree]

55. Where did you hear that?

[Mike B]

56. Probably because it's illegal

....to grope and fondle the stewardesses on a government plane.

[3catwoman3]

63. Many of the stewards on military VIP planes...

...are buff, tough enlisted guys. The women are tough, too. No groping potential on AF1.

[ManiacJoe]

59. Unfortunately for Trump,

that is not a decision he gets to make.

[ribrepin]

64. His people will say that he's 70 year man and isn't going change

just like they said it a million times before. He'll ride on his golden plane and AF1 will be the chase plane!

[Cha]

62. Stupid piece of shite.. fly what you gd want idiot.

[Ilsa]

66. His plane, so he gets to say who is on it: NO FREE PRESS!

Trump is hostile to free press and the First Amendment. He can limit who flies with him on his plane. Might be harder to control on AF1.

This whole tirade is a threat against a CEO who dared criticize dt's inept foreign policy.

[treestar]

68. LOL and a private email server is bad

I mean that's the end of the world!

[DeminPennswoods]

69. Let him

The US military has sold plenty of missiles capable of downing a commercial jet all over the world over the years. Some of them probably are even in the hands of people who don't like the US.

[Maeve]

71. Of course, he'll lease it to the US for a tidy sum

[TrishaJ]

72. In other words, Twitler is removing the

Presidency from the people and taking it for himself by refusing to live in the White House or fly AF1. He wants his children to run OUR government out of Trump Tower while he storms the country with rallies to keep the rubes fired up.

[C_U_L8R]

76. It's the people's plane.

Trump is cynically looking to make a profit.
If he wants his own plane, he can pay for it himself.

[kimbutgar]

80. Let him fly in his detectable plane

Maybe the aliens from outer space help us out.