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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:29 PM Dec 2016

He got up there and lied his a off': Carrier union leader on Trumps big deal

The Secret Service agents told the Carrier workers to stay put, so Chuck Jones sat in the factory conference room for nearly three hours, waiting for president-elect Donald Trump. He’d grown used to this suspense.

Seven months earlier, at a campaign rally in Indianapolis, Trump had pledged to save the plant’s jobs, most of which were slated to move to Mexico. Then the businessman won the election, and the 1,350 workers whose paychecks were on the line wondered if he’d keep his promise.

Jones, president of the United Steelworkers 1999, which represents Carrier employees, felt optimistic when Trump announced last week that he’d reached a deal with the factory’s parent company, United Technologies, to preserve 1,100 of the Indianapolis jobs — u ntil the union leader heard from Carrier that only 730 of the production jobs would stay and 550 of his members would lose their livelihoods, after all. 

At the Dec. 1 meeting, where Trump was supposed to lay out the details, Jones hoped he would explain himself.
“But he got up there,” Jones said Tuesday, “and, for whatever reason, lied his a-- off.”

In front of a crowd of about 150 supervisors, production workers and reporters, Trump praised Carrier and its parent company, United Technologies. "Now they’re keeping — actually the number’s over 1,100 people,” he said, “which is so great.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/%e2%80%98he-got-up-there-and-lied-his-a%e2%80%93-off-carrier-union-leader-on-trump%e2%80%99s-big-deal/ar-AAldQLA?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=edgsp

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He got up there and lied his a off': Carrier union leader on Trumps big deal (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 OP
K & R SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #1
trump doesn't need a reason to lie, he just does liberal N proud Dec 2016 #2
How many of these union members... wcmagumba Dec 2016 #3
The Right-wing voters elected a liar. Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #4
Liar-In-Chief spanone Dec 2016 #5
There's a reason Trump's mouth looks like an anus, Mr. Jones. tanyev Dec 2016 #6
He's a LIAR. What did any of these people expect. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #7
"For whatever reason," Mr. Jones? gratuitous Dec 2016 #8
Please X post in Labor & Socialist groups Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #9
That is Trump's MO. Lie your ass off! UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #10
And Kafka and Orwell collaborate... BobTheSubgenius Dec 2016 #11
Trump had no power to save jobs ............... Pence did the work Angry Dragon Dec 2016 #12
I think Trump is going to go down in history as the man who made Bush look good. nt cstanleytech Dec 2016 #13
LOL! Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #18
Ya I honestly never thought I would live long enough to see a President that would make cstanleytech Dec 2016 #19
Just like his promises to bring back manufacturing jobs, coal, oil IronLionZion Dec 2016 #14
Of course he did.. that's your gd liar in chief asshole Cha Dec 2016 #15
The Hill - Trump blasts Carrier union leader: He's 'done a terrible job' TomCADem Dec 2016 #16
Listened to him on O'Donnell. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #17

wcmagumba

(2,883 posts)
3. How many of these union members...
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:58 PM
Dec 2016

voted for him...they could hear him telling one lie after another for over a year about every imaginable thing and yet...

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. "For whatever reason," Mr. Jones?
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 11:50 PM
Dec 2016

Because it made him sound good, made you feel good, made him look good in the papers, and the truth didn't do any of that. So, he lied. Get used to it, because you're in for four years of that.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
10. That is Trump's MO. Lie your ass off!
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:08 AM
Dec 2016

People believe what he says because they want to believe it.

Typical Con man!

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
19. Ya I honestly never thought I would live long enough to see a President that would make
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 03:03 AM
Dec 2016

Bush (who himself made Nixon look good) look good but the Republican leadership decided to show us all that they could one up even Bush and now because of that they own Trumps every mistake and blunder like if they did it themselves and the Democrats need to hang him around the neck of every Republican in office for the next 20+ years.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
16. The Hill - Trump blasts Carrier union leader: He's 'done a terrible job'
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:22 AM
Dec 2016

You know this is a set-up to attack unions and minimum wage laws. Who needs them when you have the great leader?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-blasts-carrier-union-leader-hes-done-a-terrible-job/ar-AAlhK3y

Donald Trump blasted the Carrier union's president Wednesday after he said the president-elect "lied his ass off" about terms of the deal to keep Carrier manufacturing jobs in the United States.

"Chuck Jones, who is President of United Steelworkers 1999, has done a terrible job representing workers," the president-elect tweeted Wednesday. "No wonder companies flee country!"

In a subsequent tweet, the president-elect slammed the union for not being able to keep the jobs in Indiana initially.

"If United Steelworkers 1999 was any good, they would have kept those jobs in Indiana. Spend more time working-less time talking. Reduce dues," Trump tweeted.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
17. Listened to him on O'Donnell.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 02:17 AM
Dec 2016

"If United Steelworkers 1999 was any good, they would have kept those jobs in Indiana."

Lawrence asks him, "Would those same people in the room during the campaign had heard those words, would they have been cheering as loudly as they were then?"

Hahahahaha. Of course they would have. The truest thing this orange menace has said is, "I could go out on 5th Ave and shoot someone in the head and I would not lose any votes."

Damn. Dark times ahead.

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