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babylonsister

(171,036 posts)
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 09:52 AM Dec 2016

Obama Warns the Country About How Much Power He's About to Hand Trump




http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/06/obama_warns_the_country_about_the_powers_he_s_about_to_hand_to_trump.html

Obama Warns the Country About How Much Power He’s About to Hand Trump
By Joshua Keating


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Obama never referred to Trump directly, but much of the speech seemed aimed at him. Referring to torture, specifically waterboarding, which Trump promised to bring back during the campaign but is perhaps now wavering on after conversations with Mattis, Obama said that “at no point has anyone who worked with me told me that {prohibiting torture} has cost us good intelligence.” Perhaps prompted by Trump’s completely illegal suggestion that the U.S. should “take the oil” from the countries in the Middle East where it sends troops, Obama said, “We are a nation that won world wars without grabbing the resources of those we defeated.” Responding to any number of Trump statements about Muslim Americans, Obama said, “The United States is not a country that imposes religious tests as a price for freedom. We’re a country that was founded so that people could practice their faith as they chose. The United States is not a place where some citizens have to withstand greater scrutiny or carry a special ID card or prove that they’re not an enemy from within.” And in a likely response to Trump’s single-minded focus on ISIS when it comes to U.S. security priorities, Obama said:

A sustainable counterterrorism strategy requires keeping the threat in perspective. The terrorist threat is real and is dangerous. But these terrorists want to cast themselves as the vanguard of a new world order. They are not. They are thugs and they are murderers and they should be treated that way. They don’t pose an existential threat to our nation and we must not make the mistake of elevating them as if they do. That does their job for them. It makes them more important and helps them with recruitment.


At times Obama seemed to be casting his arguments in terms that might appeal to Trump. He made appeals to the bottom line, noting that, thanks to his light-footprint counterterrorism approach, which relies more on drones and special forces than large troop deployments, “We’ve accomplished all this at a cost of 10 billion over two years, which is the same amount that we used to spend in one month at the height of the Iraq war.” His argument against continuing to keep the detention center at Guantánamo Bay open was financial as well as moral, saying we’re “wasting hundreds of millions of dollars to keep fewer than 60 people in a detention center in Cuba. That’s not strength.” He also echoed one of Trump’s favorite themes by saying the U.S. “should ask allies to do their fair share in this fight.”

Much of the speech was devoted to the tricky question of legal authorization for the war on terrorism, which Obama himself has taken advantage of. “Right now we are waging a war under authority provided by Congress over 15 years ago. I had no gray hair 15 years ago,” he joked. Obama blamed Congress, saying that, “If a threat is serious enough to require the sacrifice of men and women in uniform, than members of Congress should at least have the courage to make clear where they stand.” But that’s a little unfair. It was the White House, not Congress, that first argued that the war against ISIS fell under the 2001 authorization. Even as the president has hectored Congress for not passing a new resolution, he’s been more than happy to continue and expand the war on terror under the old one.

Even before the election, Obama had made remarks suggesting that he was concerned about the unchecked power of the presidency in counterterrorism, even as his own administration significantly helped normalize that power. Those worries are more justified now that Obama is handing that power over to Trump rather than Hillary Clinton. As he put it in his speech, “the power of the presidency is awesome but it is supposed to be bound by you, our citizens.” The White House also issued an unusual 61-page document on Monday outlining the legal basis for its various counterterrorism activities, arguing for the necessity of transparency and for legal constraints that reduce “the risk of an ill-considered decision.”

The document and the speech together sure seem like an acknowledgment that Obama, partially because of his own administration’s actions, is handing unprecedented presidential powers to someone he clearly thinks is unequipped to handle them responsibly.

Obama ended his speech by urging both members of the military and American citizens to continue to “protect our Constitution among all threats foreign and domestic.” For once, the “and domestic” part didn’t feel like a throwaway line.
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mountain grammy

(26,600 posts)
1. The problem is, trumps mind cannot comprehend any of this.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 10:05 AM
Dec 2016

the truth is, we have a simpleton as president. W was one too, but he kind of knew it. The danger in trump is, he thinks he's a genius.

Johonny

(20,820 posts)
11. Trump thinks he's put "good" people in charge of everything and all he has to do are these media
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:22 PM
Dec 2016

shout outs to look like he's in charge. He has no idea the amount of in fighting and backroom stuff that goes on in Washington. His cabinet, handlers, and congress are all waiting to eat him alive. And then there's the foreign relations stuff. He thinks he has a lot of "friends" now, but he doesn't get there are no friends in the GOP apparatus. Meanwhile his inner circle will keep him in the dark with disinformation and talk of how great he is.

RKP5637

(67,089 posts)
3. Bush/Cheney ran rip shit over this country. The media was worthless, congress was worthless.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 10:14 AM
Dec 2016

IMO we're going to see the same with Trump/Pence, except on steroids. What do "ordinary" citizens do. Contact the republican representatives. Mine could give a shit if I live or die, and I don't have billions of influence. And millions are in the same boat with me. And those that voted them in are so clueless they have no concept of what is going on.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
4. Back to 1962
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 10:25 AM
Dec 2016

Make no mistake, we're entering a time not seen since 1962 when the Cuban missile crisis had us hiding under our school desks.
It should be clear to all, whether on this site or not, that we are in clear danger of nuclear annihilation with this fool trump at the controls. Hyperbole? I think not.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. I can't wait until Obama is among us, free to speak his opinions without government duties.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:01 PM
Dec 2016

I'm positive Obama will never "nag" the new President for years with lies about his birth certificate or church history or emails.

Autumn

(44,986 posts)
6. It would be wonderful if Obama eliminated the power to spy on Americans
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:18 AM
Dec 2016

that the NSA has been granted. That one step would go a long way toward protecting our "Constitution among all threats foreign and domestic" We all know Trump is unequipped to handle them responsibly.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
7. I'm afraid they would just do it anyway
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:29 AM
Dec 2016

Fascists do whatever they want. They don't even bother reading the laws let alone following them.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. Obama spends many hours, much time in direct contact during this transition. It's his duty.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:54 PM
Dec 2016

Can notice in recent comments by trump, all he says about these hours spent is "He likes Obama", "Obama liked one of my new Admin" and not much more.

This recent speech by Obama and the new documentation, including the articles new 61 page report probably cover much of what Obama is 'trying' to discuss with transition-trump.

He's documenting now, and even put up a few more new EOs to cover much detail of American government that Obama is concerned about.

Trump has restrained himself about any public comments on any advice during transition work. trump knows if he starts up any crazy-talk, or starts to lie about anything discussed with Obama. Obama will become very public, very fast over any lies. That goes for the real 'Leaders' in Americas new Admin. The RW Republicans.

Obama will never withdraw his campaign statement, that trump is Unfit & dangerous. Republicans are responsible for any harm that comes to America/Americans. They allow trump to be commander in chief.

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