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RiverStone

(7,228 posts)
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:21 PM Dec 2016

Who should the Dems obstruct "Merrick Garland" style? Wait for the SCOTUS nom, Cabinet posts?

At the least, given the Rethugs STOLE President Obama's SCOTUS nomination, unless it's actually Merrick Garland (highly unlikely), we should definitely obstruct on SCOTUS for as long as possible.

I'd love to block all of the fascist-elect's nominations, but realistically...

If we truly hold ground doing a Garland, then I think Dems have to be very selective (on who) and completely unwavering! Do to them as they in the Senate did to President Obama.



What do you rec as the best strategy on reverse obstruction?

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Who should the Dems obstruct "Merrick Garland" style? Wait for the SCOTUS nom, Cabinet posts? (Original Post) RiverStone Dec 2016 OP
Yes, obstruct them ALL onecaliberal Dec 2016 #1
Absolutly every damn one of them nt doc03 Dec 2016 #2
Don't you think they will go nuclear if we do that to everyone of them? yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #4
Maybe so but goes around comes around nt doc03 Dec 2016 #5
Yep. I hate it, but we did lose the EC - gotta give them some of what they want RiverStone Dec 2016 #7
Actually, 51 votes is the majority (wink and n/t) PJMcK Dec 2016 #8
I read a Politico article about how all the obstruction helped the Rs LeftInTX Dec 2016 #3
How would that work? PJMcK Dec 2016 #6
Here is a good article on your question RiverStone Dec 2016 #9
Good article that addresses a strategy PJMcK Dec 2016 #11
Unfortunately, all the repubs would have to do is... SaschaHM Dec 2016 #10
Given the cabinet appointment the man is making Warpy Dec 2016 #12
MATTIS samir.g Dec 2016 #13

onecaliberal

(32,786 posts)
1. Yes, obstruct them ALL
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:23 PM
Dec 2016

Hold a meeting on Inauguration Day, have a press conference after announcing democratic intent to make trump fail. To do all they can to make him fail. Let's see if the press yawns like they did to president obama when republicans did this very thing.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
4. Don't you think they will go nuclear if we do that to everyone of them?
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:42 PM
Dec 2016

That'd mean only 50 votes needed for all judges. And if they go further with bills. Yieks!

RiverStone

(7,228 posts)
7. Yep. I hate it, but we did lose the EC - gotta give them some of what they want
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:45 PM
Dec 2016

Yet on SCOTUS for sure, and today's nom for EPA Head (as the Planet is being put in peril) - as say 100% OBSTRUCT.

LeftInTX

(25,154 posts)
3. I read a Politico article about how all the obstruction helped the Rs
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:41 PM
Dec 2016

They obstructed like hell and blamed it all on Obama and the Dems.

PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
6. How would that work?
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:44 PM
Dec 2016

The Republicans hold the majority in both Houses of Congress. What parliamentarian levers will the Democratic caucuses have to indefinitely obstruct President-elect Trump's nominations?

The Republicans could hold up Judge Garland's nomination because they held the majority in the Senate. In the expected new Senate, the Republicans will continue to be the majority party. Our only efforts will be to delay. In the absence of something profound, we will not be able to derail the nominees.

Our losses last month were devastating and the results will be long-lasting.

PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
11. Good article that addresses a strategy
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:58 PM
Dec 2016

Thanks for posting the link, RiverStone. The column articulates some good ideas and passionate progressivism.

But, there's this quote (with my emphasis): "Less fatuously, it must be to obstruct the nomination and seating of any Trump nominee to fill Scalia’s seat. We will lose. But that’s not the point now."

My original question was- and still is- mostly rhetorical. This is because procedurally, the Democrats in the Senate and the House have very little strength going into the next year. The GOP and soon-to-be President Trump will get far too much of what they want.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
10. Unfortunately, all the repubs would have to do is...
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:54 PM
Dec 2016

Put the congress into Recess. It might be beneficial to let some of these cabinet posts go through. Get the republicans on record voting for these people after some very damaging hearings. Otherwise, Trump will just appoint them through recess appointments and Senate republicans get to avoid any of the blame for them. There is nothing that we can do for nominees while we have are a minority in both houses. Legislation, on the other hand, can be stalled.

Warpy

(111,175 posts)
12. Given the cabinet appointment the man is making
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:41 AM
Dec 2016

we can brace ourselves for some truly insane USSC noms, men with absolutely no judicial experience and not even law degrees. A prerequisite seems to be a complete lack of knowledge of and experience in the office, so far.

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