Donald Trump now blaming unions for jobs leaving the country

[JonLP24]

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
If United Steelworkers 1999 was any good, they would have kept those jobs in Indiana. Spend more time working-less time talking. Reduce dues

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
Chuck Jones, who is President of United Steelworkers 1999, has done a terrible job representing workers. No wonder companies flee country!

[rurallib]

1. A republican blaming unions - big surprise

Donald Schmuck is like a caricature of every bad republican ever

[whathehell]

3. "A caricature of every bad republican ever"

Well said.

[madaboutharry]

2. How will the country survive four years of this craziness?

It is going to be a circus.

[ProfessorGAC]

4. Why Didn't They Leave In The 50's and 60's?

That's when unions were at their peak power, so why didn't the jobs flow out of the country in those decades?

I'm shocked that i can't follow his "logic".

[melm00se]

19. There is an answer to that question

To derive the answer, one has to compare the differences in the social, technological, economic, educational and basic services infrastructure of the 1950's and 1960's versus the 2000's and 2010's both here in the USA and the overseas/off shore countries.

[ProfessorGAC]

23. Boy Do We Disagree

If the "logic" says unions impel a flow of labor supply overseas, it would be ever so, at least in the age of modern transportation. And Mexico has shared a border with the US for about 800 million years.

Aside from roads and electrical infrastructure, there are no social or technological conditions that would have not driven jobs offshore.

What really happened is that those things you describe created global competition and a flow of imports that our "strategic" thinkers underestimated in the 50's and 60's. By the time the late 70's came along, the ship had sailed and "labor" was the root of all our problems.

[duffyduff]

31. That was the direct result of Friedmanism

Milton Friedman was one of the most evil, if not THE most evil, people of the last 60 years.

[duffyduff]

29. Not true. It was the rise of Milton Friedman crackpot economics that did it.

It started in the mid-1970s, around the time this crackpot received the Nobel Prize (he got it in 1976), with one of the first countries employing those crackpot theories Chile under the murderous regime of Pinochet, and far too many political bigwigs were enthralled with it.

It has nothing to do with technology or any other factor.

Our country became slaves to a libertarian, crackpot CULT, and we have been paying the price ever since.

It has polluted BOTH political parties despite the fact it does NOT work.


Read the Barlett and Steele books beginning with the first one published in 1992 which pinpoint what happened.

The ruination of this country was a DELIBERATE political strategy to destroy living standards in the United States. It was all part and parcel of the neolib cult although Barlett and Steele do not say much about Friedmanomics. You had to live through the times to know it was chiefly responsible.

[JonLP24]

34. His economics were no different than trickle down economics

That caused the great recession and the panic of 1896 known as the "horse and sparrow theory" just repackaged and branded differently much a businesses name when it's no good anymore.

[duffyduff]

35. Yep. It is the same thing.

Before his "economics" career, he was a shill for the real estate industry:

http://www3.alternet.org/visions/true-history-libertarianism-america-phony-ideology-promote-corporate-agenda-0

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

5. Funny Thing About Donald's Comments

I would be surprised if, Chuck Jones, who is President Steelworkers 1999, and his group didn't all cast votes for Trump.

[Kingofalldems]

6. Some Confederate sympathizer congresswoman---

in charge of the House Labor committee said unions are no longer necessary.

Look for repubs to try to destroy labor rights---just like they are doing to voting rights.

[workinclasszero]

7. A republican going after the working class/unions

Who could have seen this coming??

Not god emperor Der Orange Fuhrer???

But..but...but...he's on the side of the working man!!!???

Say it ain't so Dumpf???

How do you like your champion of the working class now S-U-C-K-E-R-S??????????????

He will be grinding your bones to dust for the next 4 years fools and you voted for it!!!

ENJOY!!!!!!

[JonLP24]

13. +1

[Thrill]

8. But all those union towns voted for this

Especially in Ohio

[Achilleaze]

9. RepubliSuckers

Lots of them going to wake up eventually and see how they have once again been suckered into voting against their own interests.

[progressoid]

11. Only 12.3% of Ohio workers are Union members.

And I'd wager most of those are public employees.

http://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/data/unionmembershiphistorical_ohio_table.htm

[workinclasszero]

15. Yup

I have no doubt that Dump and his republican party that totally controls the government now, is going to school these fools severely for at least the next 4 years!

Maybe...just maybe, the fucking idiots will realize afterwards that NO REPUBLICAN is a friend of the working class!!!

[Fast Walker 52]

10. surprised he didn't do this before

Unions are the great Republican boogieman.

[Kolesar]

12. President of that Local 1999 got death threats after Trump called him out

Chuck Jones had not even responded to Fat Bastard and he got death threats. America!

[Initech]

14. So Donald Trump is threatening workers now! Great!

[INdemo]

16. Of course he would..next order of business..National Right to Work Law

Brace yourselves folks. Its coming.
The Right to Work law of now various states sponsored by the Koch Bros, now they have a huge advantage to make this a National Law and Unions/organized labor are doomed.

So Thanks to all the Union members that voted for Trump because they hated Hillary.

[NightWatcher]

17. Then they came for the trade unionists...

[smirkymonkey]

18. Sounds just like every other dumb ass republican I know.

[Yavin4]

20. Hey, rank and file union members this is who you voted for.

Just remember: "Spend more time working-less time talking. Reduce dues."

[Thunderbeast]

21. How many teachers, nurses, cops and firefighters will lose their jobs?

When states use tax incentives to directly "save" jobs, they are really choosing which jobs get saved. Carrier will respond to the Indiana bribe to retain a share of the jobs that they intended to move to Mexico (my guess is that they will still close the plant after taking the cash). In doing the math on the meager job retention, it should be noted that the public sector will probably lose at least 100 jobs in order to "pay" for the tax give-away. States are racing to the bottom. By starving education, we will be unable to compete for the high value jobs that can re-build a middle class economy. It is a death spiral facilitated by corporate power.

[keithbvadu2]

22. It wasn't unions that made Trump offshore his manufacturing. He could have

It wasn't unions that made Trump offshore his manufacturing. He could have
had his goods made in non-union shops here in America

by Americans.

[William Seger]

24. "Spend more time working-less time talking. Reduce dues"

... and don't expect anything near a living wage ever again. Carrier said they'd have to pay the workers less than $5 per hour to keep those jobs in the USA, and DJT's pick for Labor is just fine with abolishing the minimum wage so they can. Companies are leaving for cheap labor, period.

[cstanleytech]

26. In other words they want the good old days of workhouses and serfs.

[duffyduff]

28. The problem with the neoliberal crackpot philosphy

is they don't see the whole picture.

Countries that pay low wages also have a low cost of living.

That is NOT the case here.

If wages are cut to third world levels, so will all other costs take a tumble, including company profits. People who are paid nothing will not be able to buy the goods and services the multinationals want people to buy.

Destroying the standard of living for the masses destroys everything.

[kimbutgar]

32. We'll become a third world nation under orange hitler and his administration

THe people he's putting in his cabinet will guarantee it.

[duffyduff]

33. If that happens, they will rue the day.

Because if that happens, people will turn violent when they have nothing left to lose.

The military won't be able to bail these assholes out.

I think the country would split up before that happened.

That may be what Putin wants.

[cstanleytech]

25. Makes sense because after all its the unions fighting for decent pay and safety regulations for its

members that caused companies to go to other countries where they could pay the workers less wages and didnt have to worry about workers safety or even the environmental impact that the company would have like rivers catching on fire.

[duffyduff]

27. That was one of the justifications for sending jobs overseas.

Reaganomics is to blame for it, not unions.

Reagan union-busted PATCO, starting the wholesale war against the social contract.

Yet the white dudes kept voting for people like him, year after year, decade after decade.

That is why I don't give a shit about them anymore.

[kimbutgar]

30. Does he not realize the workers have no say on what a company does if it decides to send

Jobs overseas? What a friggin idiot!

[heaven05]

36. just like

reagan, he will destroy the unions in favor of his rich CEO benefactors. HAVE NO DOUBT, the trumpfuhrer owes many influential people for the power he now possesses. The average citizen, yes even his followers, will be inconsequential to any decisions made by our Congress, SC or his administration staff--bannon being chief among them.