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Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 01:04 AM Dec 2016

No. I will not call him president. No, I will not "respect the office." No, I will not give him a

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chance.

No, I will not listen to his agenda

No, I will not give him the benefit of the doubt

No, I will not change my mind that Jefferson and Jackson were wrong about giving the common man the vote

No, I will not change my mind that the electoral college was a bad idea when Hamilton suggested it

No, I will not accept my "rejection" by the American people because only 1/4 of the American people voted against me, and of those that voted, I got more votes.

No, I will not accept authoritarianism or the believe that "he is my president." See the first "no" statement I made

No, I will not give "your side" respect because your side is made up of racists, bigots, sexist homophobes, klansmen and Neo-Nazis

No, I will not say "alt-right." I will say what you are: anti-American fuckwits.

No, I will not support the police. Especially when they get away with murder and have no problems doing the bidding of corporate America. We all know who they protect and serve now. Ask the Sioux.

No, I will not support the troops, since that is nothing more than a mask for "support the war." And I will not support wars.

No, I will not be bipartisan. Fuck that. You motherfuckers weren't under Obama, why should I be now?

(a self criticism) No, I will not be nice because Bernie Sanders is a nice guy (and I support him). I am me. I loathe those people. I loathe everything about him. And if politics would allow it, I do believe Bernie would call Trump, his supporters, his voters, his surrogates and his handlers fucking Nazi motherfuckers.

No, I will not temper my language when it comes to racism. I don't care the age of the racist. I don't care the sex of the racist. I don't care any more. All racists deserve the "boot to the head" treatment. Don't like it? You can lay on the ground. We Jews did that and six million of us were exterminated while the rest of the world looked on. We were also subjected to pogroms, inquisition, expulsions from countries, forced conversations, torture, beatings, genocide, murder, and the rest of the world didn't care. Black people were treated the same way, and still are. No one cared then, no one cared now. Then look out gays and lesbians. Matthew Sheppard anyone?

No, love does not conquer hate. Making people who are racists and sexists realize the error of their thinking through the same tactics they use against "un-American" types. Sorry, sometimes, you need to get down to their level and off the liberal high horse.

No, I will not stop thinking this is a war for the soul and future of our country. And we are losing!

Basically, I will give the Republicans and this Orange haired, cheeto faced shitgibbon, his trophy trollop (who told us how hard it was growing up a black woman in Chicago), the adult demon spawns of Hell he calls his children, or anything somewhat attached to him.

Even if he were the second coming of FDR and brought about an America that I wished we were, I still wouldn't support him. Fuck him. Fuck his third trophy. Fuck their bastard offspring (the adult ones). Fuck their supporters. Fuck their sycophants. Fuck anyone who gave him money.

And, to be honest, if anyone has a problem with my language or the caustic nature of this post. . .you know where to go to. As fast as you can. I am so sick of being nice.

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No. I will not call him president. No, I will not "respect the office." No, I will not give him a (Original Post) Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 OP
Fuck him and his trollop.. HipChick Dec 2016 #1
The trump, his tramp and little lord fauntleroy. El Mimbreno Dec 2016 #60
Wouldn't that be "strumpet"? Hestia Dec 2016 #73
I understand your message.......... CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2016 #2
I don't feel the same way. HassleCat Dec 2016 #3
If anyone has a problem with my language or the caustic nature of this post. . . LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #4
Second the motion El Mimbreno Dec 2016 #63
When a Trump voter tells me go give him a chance, I will say, I will give him the same chance you world wide wally Dec 2016 #5
I get it completely. But since the alternatives are limited I'm hoping things aren't as bleak as it Hoyt Dec 2016 #6
Even if he were the second coming of FDR and brought about an America that I wished we were, I still Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #9
+1, especially when I don't think he needed the racism etc to win... it helped him but I think it uponit7771 Dec 2016 #30
Unfortunately, I think they are even worse than that. lark Dec 2016 #53
I think you need to take a step back and breath. SomethingNew Dec 2016 #77
Don't remember the groups' name, lark Dec 2016 #78
I was noticing tonight KT2000 Dec 2016 #7
Yep SHRED Dec 2016 #8
Sniffles is the morons president elmac Dec 2016 #10
If ONE person were to say ONE thing against your post, I don't think they'd be on Upthevibe Dec 2016 #11
Thank you & welcome to DU elmac Dec 2016 #36
She'll get a lot done pintobean Dec 2016 #23
Nice... I Agree n/t iluvtennis Dec 2016 #12
I only disagree with common man LostinRed Dec 2016 #13
It was designed to prevent mobocracy. Now, it enables it. Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #16
as an older 'lady' LittleGirl Dec 2016 #14
I have more respect for older women who speak their minds. Remember, as my grandmother said Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #21
A Great grandmother in my opinion! eom :-) LittleGirl Dec 2016 #27
I give all my language a "parental guidance" rating. rzemanfl Dec 2016 #72
d*mn right, and I couldn't have said it better myself...... a kennedy Dec 2016 #32
gee thanks ;-) eom LittleGirl Dec 2016 #33
That seems fair quakerboy Dec 2016 #15
I remember the same feeling when Reagan and Bush did it. JimBeard Dec 2016 #43
Right. There. byronius Dec 2016 #17
I'll call him President, I want everyone to remember that as President he's responsible for Raine Dec 2016 #18
Given the lunacy of his various cabinet picks Warpy Dec 2016 #19
I agree with this! Lifelong Protester Dec 2016 #40
With you MFM008 Dec 2016 #20
So what are you so afraid of? Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #22
Wish I could rec this more than once. nt raccoon Dec 2016 #24
I agree this is a war for the soul and future of our country. mnhtnbb Dec 2016 #25
Trump can ride out on the same tramp he rode in on. pressbox69 Dec 2016 #26
Kick for exposure nt Homer Wells Dec 2016 #28
I will actually lose two friends over this election HAB911 Dec 2016 #29
I'm losing family members over this. progressoid Dec 2016 #45
No one in my immediate family voted for him, thank goodness. BlueStater Dec 2016 #50
I will treat Trump with the same respect that muntrv Dec 2016 #31
EXACTLY........ a kennedy Dec 2016 #34
HEAR, HEAR!! ailsagirl Dec 2016 #69
Agreed Bettie Dec 2016 #35
Well then the question is sarisataka Dec 2016 #37
My question too. cwydro Dec 2016 #58
common does not have to mean handmade34 Dec 2016 #59
So then should we have sarisataka Dec 2016 #66
no... handmade34 Dec 2016 #67
I'm totally with you. Fucking cheetoo Hitler. kairos12 Dec 2016 #38
Okay, so what are you going to do? RedWedge Dec 2016 #39
exactly - fuck him InformedElitist Dec 2016 #41
Not respect the office? pinboy3niner Dec 2016 #42
"Respect the office" only comes up during Republican presidencies Retrograde Dec 2016 #44
The only acronym he will get from me will be POS. Loki Dec 2016 #46
You definitely aren't Thumper's deaniac21 Dec 2016 #47
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #48
I WILL NOT make nice with a Fascist! lastlib Dec 2016 #49
I'm with you, all the way. Paladin Dec 2016 #51
K & R I couldn't have said it better myself! 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2016 #52
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2016 #54
SHitler is what I'll call that thing. n/t CousinIT Dec 2016 #55
If the "common man" should not have the vote - who should? cwydro Dec 2016 #56
Awesome post FtB... nothing I could possibly add, cept maybe this... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #57
+1,000 malaise Dec 2016 #61
I'm on your side Bern!!!! onecent Dec 2016 #62
I WILL respect the office.... Adrahil Dec 2016 #64
All in with this. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #65
Thanks for posting this, Feeling the Bern ailsagirl Dec 2016 #68
To Me he still is the Rump named tRump Wolf Frankula Dec 2016 #70
I was told to get over GWB and 2000. Rex Dec 2016 #71
This is my anthem from now on ... JHan Dec 2016 #74
Fuckface Von Clownstick. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #75
Right there with you JPPaverage Dec 2016 #76

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
4. If anyone has a problem with my language or the caustic nature of this post. . .
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 01:20 AM
Dec 2016
Feeling the Bern

There were NO lies posted in ANYTHING you said ......



Lenababy1961 supports your message.

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El Mimbreno

(777 posts)
63. Second the motion
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 08:44 PM
Dec 2016

Agree 100%!!!
Caustic can be good, especially when it's the truth.
I give trump as much respect as he gives me as an American. I will NOT capitalize his name. Capitalization is for a person's name. He is not a person.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
5. When a Trump voter tells me go give him a chance, I will say, I will give him the same chance you
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 01:33 AM
Dec 2016

gave Hillary.
The only difference is that i don't have to LIE about him.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. I get it completely. But since the alternatives are limited I'm hoping things aren't as bleak as it
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 01:50 AM
Dec 2016

looks.

If Trump managed to accomplish Democratic Platform, I'd still have to condemn him for the people he scared , belittled and hurt.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
9. Even if he were the second coming of FDR and brought about an America that I wished we were, I still
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 02:04 AM
Dec 2016

wouldn't support him.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
30. +1, especially when I don't think he needed the racism etc to win... it helped him but I think it
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 08:53 AM
Dec 2016

... voter suppression in the low margin states that helped him more than anything else

lark

(23,087 posts)
53. Unfortunately, I think they are even worse than that.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 06:41 PM
Dec 2016

It may be stupid, but I think it's end times, banks end up closing, unbreathable air, undrinkable water, sickness and illness rampant, masses of people getting sick and dying due to lack of healthcare, and lots of people not getting an education because public education is non-existent. All hospitals are required to do is stabilize you, after that, you are on your own and repugs will probably remove that requirement as well. I wonder if elections will even be held in 8 years and really doubt it. There's no way repugs will ever win if social security and medicare are destroyed, so don't believe they will allow elections once their true aims have been implemented. The group that has guessed every main disturbance and major political happening since I believe it was Carter's time predicted drumpfs win and predicted the global closings of banks and the lights going out because of the the orange assface's economic policies.

SomethingNew

(279 posts)
77. I think you need to take a step back and breath.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 01:35 AM
Dec 2016

Things may get bad but Trump isn't capable of bringing the whole thing crashing down.

Also, what group is it that predicted "every main disturbance and major political happening"? I don't believe that for a second.

lark

(23,087 posts)
78. Don't remember the groups' name,
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:12 AM
Dec 2016

but saw the article in Daily Kos several times. At the time, I gave it no credence, but now.......

Did you ever think Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid would all be torn apart at the same time, well that's already happening and hes not even president. Think, what worse is in store for us, because you know those are just the opening salvos to destroy the working class.

KT2000

(20,572 posts)
7. I was noticing tonight
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 01:58 AM
Dec 2016

that his face is very similar to a lizard. with apologies to lizards. It was a photo of him when he met President Obama, looking at him out of the corner of his eye.

Love your rant and agree!

Upthevibe

(8,034 posts)
11. If ONE person were to say ONE thing against your post, I don't think they'd be on
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 03:03 AM
Dec 2016

DU. I support and agree with EVERYTHING you said.

LostinRed

(840 posts)
13. I only disagree with common man
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 03:30 AM
Dec 2016

Being able to vote. Electoral college was created to prevent it the common man voted and voted for Clinton be almost 3 million votes

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
14. as an older 'lady'
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 03:38 AM
Dec 2016

I'm not supposed to use language like that, but FUCK THAT. I'm sick of his shit, I'm sick of his cabinet picks and I'm fucking sick of being polite about it. He's going to ruin America. He going to destroy what we've built for a few centuries with his fucking idiocy. fuck it.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
21. I have more respect for older women who speak their minds. Remember, as my grandmother said
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 04:56 AM
Dec 2016

"I'm old. Who's going to tell me to stop? My parents? They're dead."

Or as I put it. . .I am not going to censor myself to make you feel good about your ignorance."

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
72. I give all my language a "parental guidance" rating.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 11:13 PM
Dec 2016

If you can't ask your parents because they are dead, you're old enough.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
18. I'll call him President, I want everyone to remember that as President he's responsible for
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 03:51 AM
Dec 2016

everything that goes down after January 20th. You bet I'll refer to him as President, no passing the buck! PRESIDENT TRUMP you're going to be held accountable!

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
19. Given the lunacy of his various cabinet picks
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 04:08 AM
Dec 2016

I no longer hold out the slim hope that someday I would say he's not so bad, after all.

That hope is gone. I'm with you.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
40. I agree with this!
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 01:38 PM
Dec 2016

Hope, schmope.

I can't wait until the folks who voted for him realize they've been scammed. It will take some longer though.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
25. I agree this is a war for the soul and future of our country.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 07:05 AM
Dec 2016

And I am despairing of the outcome.

Very dark days are coming under this Trump regime that is being assembled.

The country is indeed, fu*ked, when 70,000 votes in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania are worth more than
almost 3 million votes across the country.

HAB911

(8,879 posts)
29. I will actually lose two friends over this election
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 08:50 AM
Dec 2016

I didn't lose them over Bush, who I kind of miss now. I would not have lost them over Romney had he won.

I told one I didn't think he was stupid, just not paying attention apparently, and if he was paying attention, then he is stupid. You would have thought I kicked his puppy.

Fuck 'em
Fuck 'e all

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
50. No one in my immediate family voted for him, thank goodness.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 06:19 PM
Dec 2016

I'm sure most of my cousins did and possibly my uncle as well. I'm not really that close to them to begin with so these are relationships that wouldn't be all that much of a loss to lose.

sarisataka

(18,571 posts)
37. Well then the question is
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 01:23 PM
Dec 2016
No, I will not change my mind that Jefferson and Jackson were wrong about giving the common man the vote


Who should be able to vote?

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
59. common does not have to mean
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 07:50 PM
Dec 2016

uneducated...


Jefferson: "An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."

"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."

sarisataka

(18,571 posts)
66. So then should we have
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 09:22 PM
Dec 2016

Minimum education requirement to earn the right to vote? Or are you leaning towards a current events type test to show the voter is "informed"?

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
67. no...
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 09:35 PM
Dec 2016

my believe is that we (collectively) need to understand how we have failed so many children/people... I was trained as a teacher and did not work in any one school that offered a solid "civics" class... so very many of our children/young adults are woefully unprepared to be active participants in a democracy (or what little we have of one)

we need to make voting something necessary to be part of society... encourage more people to vote/not discourage

InformedElitist

(39 posts)
41. exactly - fuck him
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 01:47 PM
Dec 2016

When my sister-in-law started with that "stop whining, he's your president too" my response was:

"He'll be my president when he apologizes sincerely to the current one for the racist birther stuff, for veiled threats to encourage the assassination of his opponent, for mocking disabled people and a gold star family, etc. He'll be my president when his actions show he really means being a president for all Americans - including the majority who didn't vote for him."
I.e., NEVER.

"Well, give him a chance."

I did for a day or two, but the last month of watching this shit-show of appointments should come as a surprise to no one. When someone shows you who they are, believe them - the first time.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
42. Not respect the office?
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 01:54 PM
Dec 2016

It's Trump who has been undermining U.S. democratic institutions, which is a very dangerous thing.

Rather than contributing to that, we should be fighting to restore the legitimacy of our institutions in the eyes of thie public even as we oppose the agenda and policies of the officeholder.

Just my 2 cents.

Retrograde

(10,132 posts)
44. "Respect the office" only comes up during Republican presidencies
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 03:39 PM
Dec 2016

I first heard the sentiment back when Nixon was president: then, it was "we have to support him, he's the only president we have" (well, yeah, but the Constitution tells us how we can get a replacement), then again with Reagan and Shrub. Funny how the GOP never seems to apply it to a sitting Democratic president.

Anyway, respect has to be earned, and Hair Twitter isn't exactly doing a good job of that.

lastlib

(23,204 posts)
49. I WILL NOT make nice with a Fascist!
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 06:13 PM
Dec 2016

Neville Chamberlain tried that--remember how well that worked out?

Nope. FUCK Fascists. and their silent quisling buds.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
51. I'm with you, all the way.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 06:27 PM
Dec 2016

If we're going to reclaim our country, we have to immediately overcome and dispose of Democrats' natural tendency to be fair and pleasant, to play by some set of rules that the right-wing threw away decades ago. We have to get angry, we have to get mean, we have to develop a taste for getting even.

I want my country back. And I'm willing to play dirty to reclaim it.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
56. If the "common man" should not have the vote - who should?
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 06:53 PM
Dec 2016

Those of us with college degrees? Landowners? Who?

Just curious.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
65. All in with this.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 09:11 PM
Dec 2016

I am so disgusted with this country. And no, I do not believe we need to try to understand and try to sympathize with the people who voted for Trump. As far as I can see, they are either greedy bastards planning to profit, racists, uninformed fools, or troublemakers. In most cases a combination of these things.

Sure, we need to figure out who supported him to try to strategize, but NOT to sympathize. These are people who don't sympathize with those outside their tribe. I do not excuse them, whatever their selfish reasons.

I'm sick of the "they are hurting" excuse. Loads of people have been hurting in this country for years and those Trump voters haven't given a shit. They can all go straight to Hell, which, if there is such a place, is exactly where they belong.

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
70. To Me he still is the Rump named tRump
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 11:09 PM
Dec 2016

He will always be the rump named tRump. He will never be President tRump.

Wolf

JHan

(10,173 posts)
74. This is my anthem from now on ...
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 11:39 PM
Dec 2016

I'm tired being told to understand and excuse disgusting behavior I grew up understanding was wrong..>

fuck him and the cretins who enable him.

JPPaverage

(508 posts)
76. Right there with you
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:53 AM
Dec 2016

I am so sick of this motherfucker that...well words fail me at this time. All I know for sure is that I am married to an immigrant and have an immigrant step daughter. If these bastards even think about taking them away there will be a fight. By whatever means necessary.

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