Remarkable Photos of the Titanic

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These Amazing photos of the Titanic will leave you shocked and happy at the same time. This tragedy will always be on people's minds throughout time as we have never seen anything quite like it. This massive ship was one of the greatest tragedies in history. Enjoy these pictures of this massive ship making the last voyage it ever made before sinking.

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1. I saw an interesting documentary about it...

The documentarian's theory was that there was a 'polar vortex'. He went through the records at the time and showed that the temperature in surrounding places dropped significantly in a very short period of time, and that's what effected the visibility, which was why they didn't see the iceberg until they were right on top of it.

[rgbecker]

2. Now they call it "Driving too fast for conditions."

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3. That's possible too...

But according to the documentary, if they'd seen it when they normally would at the speed they were traveling, they'd have had plenty of time to avoid it.

[Brother Buzz]

13. I saw that film, and I also read a fascinating article in Smithsonian explaining the theory

It was an optical illusion created by a thermal inversion. The Smithsonian article explained the freaky weather conditions created the optical illusion AND disrupted radio communication, vindicating the captain of the Californian who was crucified for his non-action.







http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/did-the-titanic-sink-because-of-an-optical-illusion-102040309/

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19. Cool, thanks for the link...

The thing that struck me about it was that I saw it very close to the time when Rush Limbaugh was claiming that the polar vortex was a liberal conspiracy.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4555162

[Brother Buzz]

23. I understand the Polar Vortex is causing its mischief way up in the jet stream...

and affecting weather over a large area.

The optical illusion that tricked the Titanic is much more localized and only has the potential of happening along the line where cold currents meet warm ones. I read somewhere the line is not more then twenty miles wide.

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25. The cold air just happened to be moving down...

From the poles around the time that I saw the documentary.

I'm sure the connection that I made is just the way my mind works (associating things that are going on around the same time, when there may not be a connection).

They talked (in the documentary) about the cold air moving south, and I probably made the connection falsely.

It's still interesting stuff.

[Brother Buzz]

26. Cold air moving south along with a cold 'river' of fresh water underneath

The cold, relatively fresh Labrador current doesn't readily mix with the heavier warm gulf stream water and can travel hundreds of miles on the surface. It's this very narrow (maybe twenty miles wide) ribbon of cold water where the Titanic encountered the mirage. At least that's the way I interpreted it when I saw the film.

Interesting stuff, indeed.

[OldHippieChick]

4. The additional tragedy was their treatment

of those in steerage. There should be a lesson in that as well. Though I knew a lot, I never knew that the wealthy would not allow steerage passengers into their lifeboats. Shameful.

[Mellomugwump]

6. I've never heard that one before

I recently read some accounts of what happened on the Titanic and that was never mentioned. There had been reports that the gates to the upper levels had been locked, but they don't think that's the case either. They were hard to manage and they think that people just didn't know how to open them.

Basically, it was a lack of planning and preparation, and therefore, organization. The people below waited to be told what to do and nobody bothered to go down and tell them to come up. They loaded people into boats, and if they didn't see anybody else around at that moment, went ahead and launched them. On one side if the boat, they loaded women and children first and even if there were men around, they launched them. On the other side, if there were no women and children around, they let men on and then launched them. Of course, in both cases, they weren't full when launched.

[haele]

16. I found a book from 1913 that was a commemorative on the Titanic sinking.

"The Wreck and Sinking of the Titanic" by Marshall Everett, originally published in late 1912. This was the second printing, and it desperately needs rebinding. It's a rather speculatively edited compellation account from survivors, official and inquest records, and passenger lists, and includes photo plates.
It includes a couple harrowing accounts concerning the steerage passengers and those who worked in the engineering spaces.

Haele

[madokie]

5. The legend of the titanic by Jaime Brockett

Enjoy.

The history of this song. A friend and I was out late one night smoking some good ass hash done gave up on finding some companionship and going through the AM radio dial, FM hadn't caught on yet. Anyways we were looking for something to listen too and came up on KAAY, Kansas City, Beeker St, Clyde Clifford, DJ and this song came on. we laughed and then we laughed some more. I'm listening to it right now. LOL

Years later I found the album this was on at a garage sale. never been opened.

Awesome radio station btw

[struggle4progress]

8. fare thee, titanic, fare thee well

[Liberal In Texas]

15. Mr. Brockett has the USS bit wrong lol.

It was the RMS Titanic. British registry.

[Historic NY]

7. They are building a replica of HMS Titanic in China....

modern underpinnings.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3440405/Titanic-replica-photos-compare-original-ship.html

[struggle4progress]

9. Guglielmo Marconi

The Italian inventor, wireless telegraphy pioneer and winner of the 1909 Nobel Prize in Physics was offered free passage on Titanic but had taken the Lusitania three days earlier. As his daughter Degna later explained, he had paperwork to do and preferred the public stenographer aboard that vessel.

Although Marconi was later grilled by a Senate committee over allegations that his company’s wireless operators had withheld news from the public in order to sell information to the New York Times, he emerged from the disaster as one of its heroes, his invention credited with saving more than 700 lives.

Three years later, Marconi would narrowly escape another famous maritime disaster. He was on board the Lusitania in April 1915 on the voyage immediately before it was sunk by a German U-boat in May ...


http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/seven-famous-people-who-missed-the-titanic-101902418/

[struggle4progress]

10. Ernest Stoneman

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12. William and Versey Smith

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22. Koerner, Ray & Glover: "Titanic"

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11. Dixon Brothers

[Liberal In Texas]

14. It's an incredible story.

I have many books about it and see many of the documentaries over the years. There were so many things that went wrong to combine into the "perfect storm" that caused the tragedy.

A couple of interesting things: The fact that the engines were reversed on sighting the iceberg caused the rudder to lose authority and the ship wasn't able to turn away a much as it could have to miss the berg. Also, there was a fire in one of coal bunkers (apparently not uncommon on coal-fired ships) that started before the ship sailed. It was never put out and the fire was fought for the entire time until the collision.

[OldHippieChick]

17. Is there one book among them you would

recommend?

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18. Yeah I've heard that one too

If they had just continued with forward thrust they likely would have been been able to avoid the iceberg.

[bdamomma]

20. this passage seems to be very interesting

Titanic's lifeboats were able to hold up to 65 passengers each. They also had 14 wooden lifeboats and 3 collapsible boats. The problem is that the wealthy people aboard the ship refused to travel with the lower class in their boats and thus, many of the lifeboats left the ship without being filled and it resulted in many people being stranded aboard the vessel.
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It is always about the rich and the poor seems very fitting for our unpredictable time.

[EX500rider]

21. "This massive ship was one of the greatest tragedies in history"

Actually as ship sinkings go it wasn't even top five I believe...

The Germans lead the list of tragic sinkings:

MV Wilhelm Gustloff: Largest Maritime Loss of Life of All Time
In January of 1945, this German ship was hit by three torpedoes in the Baltic Sea while participating in the evacuation of civilians, military personnel, and Nazi officials who were surrounded by the Red Army in East Prussia. After being hit in the starboard (right) side, the vessel sank in less than 45 minutes. An estimated 9,400 people were killed in the disaster, making it the largest known loss of life occurring during a single ship sinking in recorded maritime history.

MV Goya: At least 6,000 People Killed in 7 Minutes

This German transport ship had 6,100 documented passengers on board (and possibly hundreds more undocumented) when it was struck on April 16, 1945, by a Soviet submarine in the Baltic Sea during World War II. Just seven minutes after being struck by the torpedo, the ship sank, killing almost all of the passengers and crew aboard, either inside the ship, or outside by drowning and hypothermia in the icy waters. This disaster is largely believed to be the second-worst in maritime history, based on the number of casualties. The ship was loaded with women and children (only two children were among the 183 passengers who survived).

More here:
http://www.oddee.com/item_98175.aspx

[Historic NY]

28. The Tiaping sinking Jan 27, 1949...1500 plus

Taiping' sinking recalled
ICY REMEMBRANCE The ship, bound for Keelung from Shanghai, carried more than 1,500 people fleeing their war-torn hometowns at the end of the Chinese Civil War
By Loa Iok-sin / STAFF REPORTER

"It was cold and chilly and like now it was close to the Lunar New Year," said retired professor Wu Yi-man (吳漪曼 , remembering Jan. 27, 1949, when she and her cousin stood at Keelung Harbor, waiting for her father who was coming to Taiwan on the cross-strait steamer the Taiping (太平輪 .

Fifty-nine years have passed, and like Wu the family members of passengers again stood near the same harbor on the same day of the year, in the same sprinkling rain. But this time, they were holding a minute of silence in front of a monument.

"In memory of those passengers who died in the Taiping sinking," the characters on the monument read.

In January 1949, when the Chinese Communist Party clearly had the upper hand in the Chinese Civil War against the Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) regime, waves of Mainlanders were anxious to escape their war-torn hometowns and head for safety, with Taiwan being the most popular destination.

More....

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2008/01/28/2003399179

https://www.thebeijinger.com/blog/2014/12/02/shipwreck-behind-john-woos-crossing

Only 36 people were plucked from the sea alive. I don't think they actually know the total loss. I've known about this since around 1984 because the ship was built here about a mile from my house on the Hudson River. It was one of three fruit boats (Bananna) built for Cuyamel Fruit Co. = United in 1921.

[kskiska]

24. You don't hear much about the Andrea Doria

As a child I remember seeing it lined up with all the other transAtlantic ships on Manhattan's west side. It was quite a tragedy when it collided with the Stockholm and sank in 1956. 46 people were killed.

[enid602]

27. just curious ...

What made you think of posting these photos right now?