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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 02:56 PM Dec 2016

We're experiencing a Russian coup d'etat

And our Democratic leaders, including the President, sat on their hands all summer.
In typical Democratic Party fashion they apparently didn't want the "appearance" of partisanship.

That's what I'm gathering.

We need to look in the mirror and stop making excuses.

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We're experiencing a Russian coup d'etat (Original Post) SHRED Dec 2016 OP
Join the movement superpatriotman Dec 2016 #1
We need to fight NOW!!! Not tomorrow.. today !! pangaia Dec 2016 #2
I'm calling Feinstein and more SHRED Dec 2016 #3
YES !! That's the way... pangaia Dec 2016 #5
I'm going to ask her office when did she know this SHRED Dec 2016 #9
Contact the White House and tell them not to allow the Russians to take over our country! Maraya1969 Dec 2016 #12
tHANKS !!! pangaia Dec 2016 #13
Done!! Thank you jovibennett Dec 2016 #23
Done. Also my Senators. nt. marybourg Dec 2016 #28
sent. plea for a state of emergency until Congress address so the matter. . n/t SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2016 #40
Tell the electors directly what you want... N_E_1 for Tennis Dec 2016 #4
DONE. pangaia Dec 2016 #10
You just copy all the email addresses Maraya1969 Dec 2016 #16
Right, Got it. pangaia Dec 2016 #17
A message from George Takei Aimee in OKC Dec 2016 #20
The Russians have taken our country without a shot being fired Calculating Dec 2016 #6
And the President's response... SHRED Dec 2016 #15
With all respect to Obama, I don't think he's made of the stuff to handle things like this. RKP5637 Dec 2016 #51
He's in, according to msnbc sources. Bolton to be deputy. nt Ilsa Dec 2016 #18
That is kind of what I am feeling Horse with no Name Dec 2016 #7
no shit. me too. mopinko Dec 2016 #8
I have many friends aorund the world.. mostly artistic types,. many classical musicians pangaia Dec 2016 #14
I hate to say this, but... world wide wally Dec 2016 #11
I am shaking and have chills about this and am really in shock right now trying to process this Pachamama Dec 2016 #19
Oligarch's uniting. jalan48 Dec 2016 #21
The Billionaire White Man's Club. --nt CrispyQ Dec 2016 #41
I think the billionare club is color and gender blind. It's all about money. jalan48 Dec 2016 #42
If the members in government know.... dawnie51 Dec 2016 #22
What did they know and when did they know it SHRED Dec 2016 #34
Yep, the Siberian candidate caught the Democrats napping.. mountain grammy Dec 2016 #24
We have already experienced a coup by the FBI and James Comey. (eom) StevieM Dec 2016 #25
There is definitely some serious sh** going on, a coup, none of this happened by chance or RKP5637 Dec 2016 #52
Obama has chosen not to stop this, why? lark Dec 2016 #26
You need proof to do that bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #30
He did try, back in September: McConnell blocked investigation MBS Dec 2016 #32
Not good enough. lark Dec 2016 #35
Obama is the guy who plays a long game. MBS Dec 2016 #44
Hope you are right. lark Dec 2016 #55
I agree! MBS Dec 2016 #57
Don't blame President Obama for this underpants Dec 2016 #27
He's calling for an investigation now yet... SHRED Dec 2016 #33
Being President (as a normal person) tempers your reaction underpants Dec 2016 #36
Don't think he's confused. lark Dec 2016 #37
So do you believe Skidmore Dec 2016 #43
I agree. This is not Obama's failing here. MBS Dec 2016 #46
What's Obama gonna do now? SHRED Dec 2016 #50
Oil companies rule the world bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #29
Zappa was right, and this may be the time... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #53
I agree. Enough of this bullshit. You need to fight fire with fire. TrekLuver Dec 2016 #31
It isn't like the American people were unaware LittleBlue Dec 2016 #38
Best part is... OlWiseRedEye Dec 2016 #39
Correct SHRED Dec 2016 #45
The dems in the gang of 12 clearly did leak this during the campaign Abu Pepe Dec 2016 #47
The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming! QED Dec 2016 #48
Truth Is Stranger Than Fiction WiffenPoof Dec 2016 #49
Yeah, but at least Trump is Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #54
I'm really disappointed in dems who are attempting to normalize this shit ecstatic Dec 2016 #56

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
2. We need to fight NOW!!! Not tomorrow.. today !!
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:00 PM
Dec 2016


Get out and contact your reps and tell them to fight against this coup d'etat and every single nominee il duce puts up for his cabinet.

Call the White House
Call Attorneys General
Write letters to editors.
Contact broadcast media.
Join groups fighting the coup.
Contribute $$ if you can.
Post on social media.
Join protests, marches, strikes, boycotts.
any other type of civil disobedience. .
PROTEST any way possible...

Anything else you might think of...



 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
9. I'm going to ask her office when did she know this
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:07 PM
Dec 2016

And follow up with why was nothing done?

If our leaders can't recognize a coup occurring then they are worthless.

jovibennett

(120 posts)
23. Done!! Thank you
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 04:55 PM
Dec 2016

I copied and pasted to all the electors emails addresses through my email. We need to spread the word!! 159,000 have done it already but we need a million or so!!

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,713 posts)
4. Tell the electors directly what you want...
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:02 PM
Dec 2016
http://asktheelectors.org

Join the throngs of loyal Americans asking that the EC electors not vote for trump.

Pass this to all your friends the more the better.

Time to revolt is now!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
10. DONE.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:07 PM
Dec 2016

What's that at the bottom about sending an email somewhere?

ON EDIT:

Well looks like I am not done.

It appears one has to personally send emails to all those electors..

OK I have started..

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. Right, Got it.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:54 PM
Dec 2016

I'll send about 20 at a time so as not to bloat my server. :&gt )
Frontier UN-Communications

Aimee in OKC

(158 posts)
20. A message from George Takei
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 04:29 PM
Dec 2016

George Takei @GeorgeTakei
6:44 AM - 10 Dec 2016

If there was interference on the play, you don't count the touchdown. Russia meddled in our election, says the CIA. Electors, do your jobs.


https://mobile.twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/807596961150930945

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
51. With all respect to Obama, I don't think he's made of the stuff to handle things like this.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 06:39 PM
Dec 2016

This requires swift hard nosed action, like waging a war, and ASAP. There is no time for studies. The congressional vacation needs to be stopped. This, is a crisis.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
7. That is kind of what I am feeling
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:03 PM
Dec 2016

since they picked the President and a friendly SOS and all.....
I actually am wondering what the Europeans are talking about behind closed doors.

mopinko

(70,069 posts)
8. no shit. me too.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:06 PM
Dec 2016

how is the rest of the world going to react to this election? what the hell kind of example does it set for the rest of the world if russia can do this to us and get away with it?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
14. I have many friends aorund the world.. mostly artistic types,. many classical musicians
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:35 PM
Dec 2016

We mostly follow each other on FB... and PMs and see each other when traveling..

Those 'closest' to these events live in..
Russia, Ukraine, Georgia, Finland, Germany, Czech Republic, South Korea, China, etc..

Their take on all this is really interesting, and actually a little varied...
They are much more detailed in their discussions, but to simplify it...

Putin is dangerous and is screwing the US, AND Russia..

The US does the same thing.. well, true..

The EU threatens Russia..

Russia is a threat to the entire world.

HOWEVER.. ALL of them, every one, knows exactly what has happened. They knew it was happening long ago because they know Putin and the Russian political machine.

They are NOT happy!

Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
19. I am shaking and have chills about this and am really in shock right now trying to process this
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 04:21 PM
Dec 2016

….and figure out how this has happened and even was able to happen. And I want something done and done quickly to investigate this and full transparency and there needs to be something done. This is a security breach and act of war. And I thought our members of congress and our President take an oath to the Constitution to defend the country and constitution from enemies FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC and we have a situation of both here.


jalan48

(13,853 posts)
42. I think the billionare club is color and gender blind. It's all about money.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:54 PM
Dec 2016

If black men or women can get enough money they can buy their way in.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
22. If the members in government know....
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 04:41 PM
Dec 2016

and just do nothing, is it really a coup? Or a gift? Starting to sound like everyone knew, and no one did anything. What'd the military know? What do they know now? Does anyone give a damn? Perhaps the whole damn bunch has dreams of Russia.

mountain grammy

(26,608 posts)
24. Yep, the Siberian candidate caught the Democrats napping..
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:00 PM
Dec 2016

Why? You'd think after the last 8 years, Obama would be happy to bring the hammer down on these criminals.
This will not end well.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
52. There is definitely some serious sh** going on, a coup, none of this happened by chance or
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 06:44 PM
Dec 2016

coincidental timing ... it's been orchestrated, and it continues.

lark

(23,083 posts)
26. Obama has chosen not to stop this, why?
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:26 PM
Dec 2016

He knows russia stole the election and that drumpf will be their willing fool and sink the world to enrich himself, so WTF? Why isn't he having drumpf arrested for treason?

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
30. You need proof to do that
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:32 PM
Dec 2016

Don't even know if politically he could use War Powers to nullify the
election and force a do-over in 2017, plus he'd have to deal with the
Russians - expel diplomats at the least, and the GOP Congress would
scream.

So he had no good choices, he has none now that I can see

What would you have him do?

MBS

(9,688 posts)
32. He did try, back in September: McConnell blocked investigation
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:34 PM
Dec 2016
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/10/mitch_mcconnell_prevented_stronger_action_against_russian_election_meddling.html

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell was apparently one of the Republican leaders who was most responsible for putting the brakes on a stronger White House pushback against Moscow’s efforts at trying to affect the outcome of the U.S. election. At the end of a bombshell Washington Post piece about how the CIA has concluded that Russia was trying to help Donald Trump win the White House, there is word of a secret meeting on Capitol Hill with a group of key lawmakers in September. It was at this meeting that McConnell reportedly expressed serious reservations about the intelligence and threatened to politicize the agency’s findings if they were made public.

The Post explains that the White House was so convinced by the evidence that Russia was trying to affect the outcome of the election that by mid-September, it decided that stronger action was needed. But White House officials were afraid that the effort would be seen as an attempt to affect the outcome of the election, so the administration wanted both parties to come together and criticize Russian interference as well as urge local governments to accept federal assistance in protecting the voting process.
The Democratic lawmakers all agreed that the threat of Russian interference needed to be taken seriously but at least two Republicans, including McConnell, pushed back.
The Post reports:

According to several officials, McConnell raised doubts about the underlying intelligence and made clear to the administration that he would consider any effort by the White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics.

. . . .McConnell has refused to comment on the reports about the CIA conclusions on Russia’s meddling in the election. McConnell’s office told BuzzFeed News that it “would not violate federal law by providing classified information.”


lark

(23,083 posts)
35. Not good enough.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:41 PM
Dec 2016

Arrest drumpf for treason, that's the only thing that can be done, providing he has the real proof of drumpf colluding with Russia to steal the election. Repugs are traitors, they don't give a shit so Congress is out of the picture. This is a law enforcement issue, this is about the very survival of our way of life and constitution. Share the information with the world, this is more important than any intelligence sources, this is not only our survival, but the survival of the democratic world.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
44. Obama is the guy who plays a long game.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 06:09 PM
Dec 2016

Someone said once (on DU?) that Obama plays chess when everyone else plays checkers.

Yes, he's known exactly what's going on since the summer (or whenever those 17 intelligence agencies made their report). When the White House first made mention of this stuff back in (??) July, I thought to myself, "Obama is so careful not to make accusations without factual support. For him or his staff to say something must mean that they've got truly damning evidence. :
And, since Obama surely received more information than what's reported, and earlier than we learned about it, he surely knows way more than we know, and he's known it for awhile.

I am positive that intelligence agencies have been hard at work throughout this period, and they that they and Obama are working on strategies.

I also am aware that Obama has been boxed in politically, because it would not have been in the Democratic party's or Hillary's interest ( in the country's, either) - if his accusations or actions could be dismissed as "partisan bias" or "election rigging." That's why he wanted bipartisan support (and should have received it, had McConnell not chosen self-interest and partisan interest over country).

I have confidence that Obama will come up with an effective response.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
57. I agree!
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:44 PM
Dec 2016

I've been freaked out about this whole thing ever since hints of the Putin-Trump connection caught my attention about a year or so ago, starting especially with that photo of Flynn at Putin's table at the RT dinner.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
33. He's calling for an investigation now yet...
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:35 PM
Dec 2016

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration said on Friday that despite Russian attempts to undermine the presidential election, it has concluded that the results “accurately reflect the will of the American people.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/25/us/politics/hacking-russia-election-fears-barack-obama-donald-trump.html?_r=0

..

Why is he so confused???

underpants

(182,730 posts)
36. Being President (as a normal person) tempers your reaction
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:41 PM
Dec 2016

He relented to McConnell, by all accounts, out of respect for both of their positions.

We knew this in September. Hillary mentioned it in at one debate.

President Obama shouldn't have to highlight it.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
43. So do you believe
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 06:01 PM
Dec 2016

POTUS is a Kenyan Muslim spirited into the US as a baby in order to become President too? That is exactly how kooky this sounds. The coup you posit was brought by right wingers and covered up by a GOP which is morally and pollitically bankrupt an ideologues on the left who sat on their votes. Does it make you feel better to include President Obama as a co-conspirator. So sick of this endless crap.





MBS

(9,688 posts)
46. I agree. This is not Obama's failing here.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 06:13 PM
Dec 2016

The Republican leadership and the Trumpites, on the other hand. .
My guess is that Obama (handy also that he is a constitutional lawyer) and the intelligence agencies (though presumably not the disgraced FBI) are working hard on an effective and constitutionally and diplomatically appropriate strategy to address this extremely serious, and unprecedented problem.

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
29. Oil companies rule the world
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:27 PM
Dec 2016

we're about to get plundered

and polluted

Provocative act by a hostile foreign power if you're saying coup d'etat

We're cornered with two options. 1) Slide into dictatorship as a puppet state
2) fight with a super power

Take your pick

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
53. Zappa was right, and this may be the time...
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 06:53 PM
Dec 2016

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
38. It isn't like the American people were unaware
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:46 PM
Dec 2016

We knew this about Trump months before the election. They just didn't care.

OlWiseRedEye

(34 posts)
39. Best part is...
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:49 PM
Dec 2016

Absolutely nothing will come out of any of it...

Any other country and they would be protesting in the streets.

This country, "oh well, no big deal".

Sorry folks, this democracy checked out long ago.

Abu Pepe

(637 posts)
47. The dems in the gang of 12 clearly did leak this during the campaign
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 06:17 PM
Dec 2016

but somebody was spinning the "it isnt to help Trump but just be a dick making chaos" meme. Probably the GOP gang of 12 mambers like MConnel who sold their country out to Putin to beat HRC.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
49. Truth Is Stranger Than Fiction
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 06:23 PM
Dec 2016

Sometimes I feel like we are living in some sort of political suspense novel.

ecstatic

(32,677 posts)
56. I'm really disappointed in dems who are attempting to normalize this shit
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 11:30 AM
Dec 2016

And unfortunately, that includes my favorite president of all time, Obama. This is not normal. WTF is really going on here?

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