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mopinko

(69,965 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:31 PM Dec 2016

the unavoidable conclusion- if putin wanted drumph, he already owned him.

whether he knew it or not.
he was compromised. i have seen that stated in a couple of articles about this.
he was compromised. he is compromised.
they have control, whether it is money, or favors from the mafia, or a sex tape, or who knows.
they have something on him.

you can love his sorry ass, but would you loan the man money? would you ask him to drive you daughter home?
wake the fuck up, people. the strings over the white house have never been so obvious.

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the unavoidable conclusion- if putin wanted drumph, he already owned him. (Original Post) mopinko Dec 2016 OP
No question, it's why we couldn't see the tax returns and also why manifort was on the scene. onecaliberal Dec 2016 #1
yeah and went right down the memory hole via congressional committee. mopinko Dec 2016 #2
Is manafort gone ? Manafort was seen entering trump tower Kathy M Dec 2016 #6
He lives there. He and twitler are neighbors. littlemissmartypants Dec 2016 #16
hoooowww conveeeeeenient mopinko Dec 2016 #20
We are woke. Go tell the asshats at Freerepublic TeamPooka Dec 2016 #3
from what has been said, he has stuff on Trump when Trump was in Russia for the Pageant JI7 Dec 2016 #4
it better be more than the pageants here. mopinko Dec 2016 #12
Yep... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #5
Didn 't one of the sons say they get a lot of money for hotel business from russia ? Kathy M Dec 2016 #7
not about money. it has to be an impeachable offense. mopinko Dec 2016 #15
I seriously doubt it is a sex tape jmowreader Dec 2016 #8
doesnt really seem to be enough. mopinko Dec 2016 #14
Someone's got a theory going Trump is really running a Ponzi scheme jmowreader Dec 2016 #17
i thought that too, and he's so very ownable. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #9
finances, but not what you think RazzleCat Dec 2016 #10
meh. embarrassing to him, but i dont really think disqualifying. mopinko Dec 2016 #13
Exactly right Justice Dec 2016 #11
Bingo Generator Dec 2016 #18
sometimes i wonder about them all. mopinko Dec 2016 #19

onecaliberal

(32,736 posts)
1. No question, it's why we couldn't see the tax returns and also why manifort was on the scene.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:42 PM
Dec 2016

You notice he got the hell out of dodge when questions started to be raised.

mopinko

(69,965 posts)
2. yeah and went right down the memory hole via congressional committee.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 12:03 AM
Dec 2016

conspirators everywhere, i swear there are.

a friend put up a fb post asking what conspiracy theories people believed.
mine was- there is a vast rw conspiracy.
which our foreign enemies have chosen to leverage.

mopinko

(69,965 posts)
12. it better be more than the pageants here.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:28 AM
Dec 2016

i wonder if they got something vulgar enough to piss off his followers, tho.
they seem to like that he is a vulgarian.
i am sure they made it good, tho.

jmowreader

(50,520 posts)
8. I seriously doubt it is a sex tape
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:12 AM
Dec 2016

My best guess is Trump owes the Russian government a LOT of money he either can't or won't repay, and he's going to satisfy his debt with the kinds of favors only presidents can do.

mopinko

(69,965 posts)
14. doesnt really seem to be enough.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:34 AM
Dec 2016

dont see how it really disqualifies him from the office. this has to be something that would explode his presidency, not just embarrass him.

jmowreader

(50,520 posts)
17. Someone's got a theory going Trump is really running a Ponzi scheme
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 05:12 PM
Dec 2016

If he is, it's the most non-traditional Ponzi there is; buildings do get built.

RazzleCat

(732 posts)
10. finances, but not what you think
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:12 AM
Dec 2016

I do not think it has to do with being over leveraged to Russia, Trump would not care, he has always been over leveraged, has bragged about it. Nope I think they have proof of his true net worth. Not a billionaire, just a millionaire. The number one thing that he always get defensive about is his wealth.

mopinko

(69,965 posts)
13. meh. embarrassing to him, but i dont really think disqualifying.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:30 AM
Dec 2016

i dont think this has anything to do with money.

Justice

(7,185 posts)
11. Exactly right
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:25 AM
Dec 2016

They say goes back to 300 when Russia started lending to Trump and overpaying for Trump property- like Florida estate.

Explains why Trump making choices during campaign i.e. re Manafort, Flynn, and others with ties to Russia. Explains Exxon pick for SOS - which seems out of left field.

Also wonder what they have on RNC. Provence must be cooperating so has role close to Trump.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
18. Bingo
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 05:47 PM
Dec 2016

I thought so too for some time. And with GOP being hacked too-Putin could have mucho blackmail on them too. Maybe McConnell's a pedophile. We don't know but Vladimir does.

mopinko

(69,965 posts)
19. sometimes i wonder about them all.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 06:34 PM
Dec 2016

powerful men have a hard time saying no to honey traps. still monkeys.

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