Do you think Russia will attack Poland ... again?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

And what will a Trump administration do?

[rzemanfl]

1. No, the Poles will attack a Russian radio station. n/t

[Abu Pepe]

3. right. nt

[Dave Starsky]

8. For the historically challenged...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

[rzemanfl]

13. Welcome to DU. I am sure the historically challenged appreciate your effort. n/t

[Dave Starsky]

15. I had to look it up!

I'll admit that I'm historically challenged.

[Hortensis]

16. I remembered phony excuse, but...radio station? Thanks.

[rzemanfl]

18. I have a Masters Degree (suitable for framing) in history. It makes me

say things without context sometimes.

[COLGATE4]

20. Yep. Leave a few bodies dressed in Polish uniforms

and you've got your proof.

[Abu Pepe]

2. More than likely they will try to swollow the baltic states imo nt

[Yupster]

7. I agree

Russia has enough on its plate without attacking Poland.

The Baltic states would come first if there was an attack planned.

[Hortensis]

17. Russia's been invading sovereign nations on its borders.

People literally wake up to find the Russians moved the border fence overnight and their homes are now on the Russian side. The Atlantic had an article last July about what Trump would do if these creeps became leaps.

What If Russia Invaded the Baltics—and Donald Trump Was President?
A former NATO general imagines a frightening scenario.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/russia-nato-trump-shirreff/492938/

[dhill926]

4. who's gonna stop them....

[wcmagumba]

5. Russia's gonna roll...

and T-rump is their boy...welcome to USSA.

[TheBlackAdder]

6. Yes, if the Ukraine falls. Trump & NATO will do nothing. Former Soviet states are acceptable losses.

[Igel]

12. They were before.

In the late 1930s nobody gave a rat's ass about them.

In the '50s we had the "occupied countries" series of stamps, but by the '60s and '70s people were (still) denying that Eastern Europe was in any sense occupied.

Many on the West had difficulty accepting that the GULag was all that bad. This included many historians and poli-sci folk.

Recently a kind of cognitive dissonance hit NPR: They said how wonderful it was that Cuba sent soldiers to fight in civil wars in Africa. Saying this was a problem for the last few decades, because many of those victories led to repressive dictatorships. The Cubans were sponsored heartily by the USSR with materiel and funding and advisors. But the rhetoric had long been that these were people's movements fought entirely by the US and that the USSR wasn't involved militarily. Then, when the "right" side had won and the ADD American public had a good night's sleep they were just dictatorships that came out of nowhere.

It's okay to still be pro-USSR, as long as you're not pro-Russia, I guess. But while the current Russia may have been properly called a "foe" of American, even if a lot of prominent but wrong people said this wasn't the case, it's still doing better than the USSR did for many a decade. It's not even to the point of Lenin in the mid-late 1920s yet for repression, and he was widely regarded as a good guy in 1989 and 1990.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. As a proud member of the liberal left I was never enamored of the Soviet Union.

As a proud member of the liberal left I was never enamored of the Soviet Union and I am even less enamored of contemporary Russia. That doesn't mean I am unaware of the flaws of my own country. One can believe both.


Your comparison of Putin versus Lenin makes me think. The difference is Putin has nearly a century of hindsight. Neither are small d democrats. That is certain.

[maryellen99]

9. Someone from the UK did a mock Nuclear attack broadcast on

That is based on attacking Poland and The Baltics. The comments from the Trumpies/anti HRC are out to lunch. Some are that Trump has saved us from WWIII because he and Putin are "friends" and that Hillary is a warmonger while Trump is a naive peaceful little hippie

[sarisataka]

10. Unless they attack

From Kaliningrad, on a very narrow front, the Ukraine and/or the Baltic States would need to be taken first.

Without the element of surprise NATO would have time to react and call on the US to honor the treaty. Given the 70 year history between the US and USSR/Russia, there is little doubt the vast majority of the American people would call for us to join the fight against the "Commies"

[roamer65]

11. Not unless it is coordinated attack by the Chinese on Taiwan.

The Sino-Russian alliance will do the Baltics, Ukraine and Taiwan at the same time for maximum diversion.

[Yavin4]

19. Poland is a part of NATO

If Russia invades and Trump does nothing, then NATO is effectively defunct. If that happens, all Hell breaks loose in Europe. Do a quick study of European history, and you will see what hell looks like.

But, Hillary had an email server, so...

[LisaL]

21. I think Putin is more interested in Baltic countries.

Poland was never a part of the Soviet Union. Baltics were.

[ladjf]

22. No. They are discovering better methods of plundering the Earth. nt