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kpete

(71,982 posts)
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 04:38 PM Dec 2016

Bernstein says Trump's lies worse than Nixon's

Carl Bernstein, whose reporting broke open the Watergate scandal that led to former President Nixon's resignation, said Sunday that Nixon's lies were nothing compared to Donald Trump's.


"Trump lives and thrives in a fact-free environment. No president, including Richard Nixon, has been so ignorant of fact and disdains fact in the way this president-elect does," Bernstein said on CNN's "Reliable Sources."
Bernstein also slammed what he called a "growing sense of authoritarianism" from Trump and his campaign.

"Richard Nixon was nothing, in terms of lying, compared to what we have seen from Donald Trump,"
he said.


http://thehill.com/homenews/news/309874-bernstein-says-trumps-lies-worse-than-nixons

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Bernstein says Trump's lies worse than Nixon's (Original Post) kpete Dec 2016 OP
If this was 44 years ago, Trump and Pence would not be taking office Chasstev365 Dec 2016 #1
I can imagine Nixon conspired to sabotaged the Paris Peace Talks to help him win the '68 election Martin Eden Dec 2016 #8
Yes! Why LBJ did not destroy Tricky Dick with that is beyond me! Chasstev365 Dec 2016 #11
Because LBJ wasn't as vindictive and reckless as Nixon Martin Eden Dec 2016 #12
Also because LBJ had illegally taped the evidence. duffyduff Dec 2016 #14
Bernstein's pushing his name and most recent book. Hortensis Dec 2016 #2
Bernstein called dRumpf a fascist, months ago. He never called NIXON one. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #7
I agree with that. HRC is honorable. Nixon was evil personified. n/t duffyduff Dec 2016 #16
Drumpf seems to have a thinner skin than Nixon as well Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #3
He lies as easily as he breathes. Today he said Exxon is twice as big as its nearest competitor. AnotherMother4Peace Dec 2016 #4
Groper Don the Con is sick malaise Dec 2016 #5
Nixon created the EPA, Trump will render it useless. welivetotreadonkings Dec 2016 #6
Trump biographers warned everyone months ago. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #9
He's starting off MORE crooked, mobbed up, abusive of exec power Mc Mike Dec 2016 #10
Nixon's secret plan to end the war was a whopper considering how many Americans died eleny Dec 2016 #13
Nixon is pretty tough to beat in the evil department duffyduff Dec 2016 #15
Gee Carl, you're a little late mdbl Dec 2016 #17

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
1. If this was 44 years ago, Trump and Pence would not be taking office
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 04:47 PM
Dec 2016

Can you imagine if Nixon had plotted with the Russia to beat McGovern in 72?

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
12. Because LBJ wasn't as vindictive and reckless as Nixon
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 07:57 PM
Dec 2016

He felt the charges of treason would hurt the country, but he might have gone forward with it if he had ironclad proof at the time.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
14. Also because LBJ had illegally taped the evidence.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 08:14 PM
Dec 2016

It was a different time then.

Nixon committed treason against the United States. That lay at the root of Watergate.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Bernstein's pushing his name and most recent book.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 05:01 PM
Dec 2016

The topic's real, yes, but are we giving this guy a free pass on his own part in electing Trump?

Let's face it, this is a man who kept his name out of the grave and pushed sales of his latest book on all the shows that would give him exposure by hitting their theme -- "untrustworthy, unlikeable Hillary," by drawing an outrageous false equivalency between Hillary's emails and Nixon's giant Watergate felonies.

As liars go, Bernstein may not be in Trump's category, but he has become a corrupt, opportunistic liar who sold his journalistic soul to keep membership in the insiders' club, no hero.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
7. Bernstein called dRumpf a fascist, months ago. He never called NIXON one.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 07:32 PM
Dec 2016

I can't see how he helped elect dRumpf, Hort.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,241 posts)
4. He lies as easily as he breathes. Today he said Exxon is twice as big as its nearest competitor.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 05:22 PM
Dec 2016

A LIE - Shell is its nearest competitor. The truth and lies are the same for Trump - no difference.

6. Nixon created the EPA, Trump will render it useless.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 05:58 PM
Dec 2016

The worst Republicans of American history pale in comparison to the monstrosities about to be unleashed on our country.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
9. Trump biographers warned everyone months ago.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 07:38 PM
Dec 2016

Tony Schwartz...
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

When challenged about the facts, Schwartz says, Trump would often double down, repeat himself, and grow belligerent.


Others...
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-campaign-biography-psychology-history-barrett-hurt-dantiono-blair-obrien-213835
Blair: Whenever I went to interview him, I always felt like a failure, because he would never say anything. It would just be blather. He would say how great he was, and then I would then get more blather. And that is how he talks on the campaign trail. People always ask me, “Is that how he really is?”

Hurt: Yeah, that’s how he really is.

O’Brien: When you hold his feet to the fire on a fact pattern, he does not handle it well.You saw this a little bit in one of the debates, when the Fox host started putting slides up on him. He melted. He actually looked like he was melting.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
10. He's starting off MORE crooked, mobbed up, abusive of exec power
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 07:43 PM
Dec 2016

than Nixon wound up being, when he was forced out of power.

He's going in worse than the level of evil that was bad enough to get Nixon kicked out.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
13. Nixon's secret plan to end the war was a whopper considering how many Americans died
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 08:01 PM
Dec 2016

But give Trump four years and who knows how much destruction he'll be causing. Let's hope his own Party stops him before he unleashes his brand on the rest of us.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
15. Nixon is pretty tough to beat in the evil department
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 08:17 PM
Dec 2016

He deliberately dragged the Vietnam War out for four more years in order to ensure his re-election. That war could have and would have ended in 1968 if Nixon hadn't sabotaged, through third parties, the Paris Peace Talks. He did that because he thought LBJ was trying to end the war to get Humphrey elected. That was how utterly vindictive Nixon was.

He is still the worst president we ever had because he committed something that was beyond the pale. ALL of those people died just so Nixon could get elected and re-elected.

It would be difficult for Trump to be worse, but he hasn't gotten in the WH yet. If the EC acted honorably, he wouldn't get in there at all.

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