Bernie Sanders appears at Kenosha town hall

[portlander23]

Bernie Sanders appears at Kenosha town hall
Mary Spicuzza
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Sanders said he believes many middle class voters are "in pain" and wanted to back a candidate who would stand up to the establishment. For example, he pointed to people's frustration with trade deals that have hurt workers in the United States.

"Why do we have so much income and wealth inequality?" Sanders said.

Sanders said he believes many voters decided to back Trump because they believed he would stand up to the media and political establishment. Sanders added that he doesn't believe he will.

The interview will air on "All In With Chris Hayes" at 7 p.m. central time Monday.

[CTyankee]

2. Give it a rest, buddy...don't come wading into DU with that stuff...there are plenty of Bernie

voters here, me included.

[CTyankee]

10. He's a respected ally for us in the Dem Party. We can rely on his vote. He is a strong voice

for income and economic equality. I voted for him in the Primary and my husband voted for Hillary and I still sleep with him...

[boston bean]

11. We can depend on Bernie to keep bad mouthing the Democratic Party. He's done it for decades

he obviously will continue to do so.

So, maybe people ought not get upset when others point this out.

He bashes many good democrats for NO GOOD REASON!

[boston bean]

8. I am perfectly fine with everything he just said. I agree with bubba 100%!

[ananda]

12. Thanks, CT.

Me too.

[NCTraveler]

19. It's up to the community, hosts and administrators as to if this is out of line.

[CTyankee]

21. Yep.

[progressoid]

6. replace him with a Democrat?

Who, pray tell, would that be.

He represents more of our Democratic values than many registered Democrats.

[boston bean]

9. That is a not true. And is an attack on Democrats.

[progressoid]

16. It's not an attack.

It is a criticism of some Democrats.

[boston bean]

17. It is an attack on democrats who you don't feel are a fit with the big tent.

Listen, we lost this election because of people thinking the party wasn't pure enough.

To hell with all of that I say.

[progressoid]

25. That's exactly what I didn't say.

It's ironic that you think I don't feel they belong in the "big tent". They do belong.

Funny that many here don't think the left wing belongs in the big tent too.

[boston bean]

29. They belong as long as they aren't tearing it down and destroying it

By calling it corrupt and establishment and a bunch of other falsehoods like they don't care about working people. Why is this so hard for people to grasp?

[Larkspur]

30. I'm the Democratic chair of my town and I voted for Bernie in the CT Primary

I consider Bernie's views from the core Democratic principles that FDR championed, especially the 2nd Bill of Rights.

[boston bean]

31. And do you think the party is corrupt and establishment and against

Working people??

[Larkspur]

33. I did not vote for HRC in the primary because I did not feel that she supported my Democratic values

I held my nose and voted for her in the GE because Trump would be a disaster. She won CT but lost the election to Trump. She only has herself to blame. Even if the Russians had engineered the leaks with the intent to tilt the election to Trump, HRC still made big mistakes, like taking the middle and working classes for granted in the Rust Belt, that would have cost her the election even if the Russians did not interfere.

[boston bean]

35. This angers me to no end. After everything you know has happened

You are still bernie woulda won and was better and blame other democrats for backing her. Because why?? You feel the democratic party isn't for working people.

Well let me to tell you that kind of thinking got us all trump. And it is as false as hell

[Larkspur]

36. I never said that. You are putting words in my mouth because you want to blame everyone but HRC

for the general election loss. The candidate is responsible for how his/her campaign is conducted. Like a captain of a ship, the candidate has to bear the ultimate blame for the loss. HRC made strategic mistakes, like not campaigning in WI, courting Republicans instead of rallying her base, and going on a name calling tour against Trump instead of telling voters how she would make their lives better.

[boston bean]

37. Every thing you said but about campaigning is not true and is an opinion based in fallacies.

[Larkspur]

41. It is a FACT that HRC did not campaign in WI

She also ignored her supporters in MI that said that HRC needed to come to MI and address trade issues as they saw Trump's support increase in the once blue state.

[boston bean]

43. What do you think I just wrote????

[ZoomBubba]

15. Who is the arbitrator of Democratic values?

Democrats are supposed to be the moderate and progressive party ... not the socialist party. We work with corporations, small businesses, unions, community organizers and everyone in between. Bernie sought to undermine that coalition. His racist and sexist followers harassed Clinton supporters on FB, Twitter and pretty much everywhere online ... then apparently jumped on the Trump train after that because I never saw them go after him. I have no use for Bernie.

[progressoid]

22. Bullshit.

90% of Bernie supporters voted for Hillary. But in '08:

"I would die and slit my wrist before I'd vote for Obama," one Clinton supporter told the Washington Post at the time. These self-described PUMAs—an acronym that stood for “Party Unity My Ass”—made up by some measures more than one-third of Clinton supporters. According to a Gallup poll taken at the end of March 2008, only 59 percent of Clinton supporters said they’d vote for Obama and 28 percent of them said they’d vote for John McCain. Likewise, a Washington Post survey from May of that year found 26 percent of Clinton supporters promising to vote McCain and only 64 percent promising to vote for Obama.

As the Post noted on Wednesday, though, “Obama's support among Clinton primary supporters rose from 64 percent in May to 73 percent in mid-September, 79 percent in mid-October and 83 percent by Election Day, according to [a CNN] exit poll.”

[boston bean]

23. Obama won TWICE. This election year both the libertarian and Green Party

increase their percentage of votes by way more than in 2008 or 2012.

Way more than enough to sway this election.

We were nadered again.

As well as hacked by russians and meddled with by the FBI.

For christsakes.. what the hell are people still on if "only Bernie" bandwagon, we would be ok??

[progressoid]

34. Why not blame union members.

There was a 7% drop from Obama in 12 to Clinton this year of union households voting for our side. While Drumpf got 2% more of the union household vote than Romney did.

Or maybe Asians. They seemed to go third party this year. There was a 6% drop in support this year over 2008.

[boston bean]

38. Were they Stein or Johnson voters?? Do you know??????????

[progressoid]

39. Stein, Johnson or Trump in the case of Union voters.

Asians voted the same for Trump as Romney. But fewer overall for Clinton vs Obama.

[boston bean]

44. right.

[ZoomBubba]

24. So, he cost us 17 percent ...

... at least. That would've been more than enough to win in some states. Several actually.

[progressoid]

27. The 17% were Clinton supporters who didn't vote for Obama.

Reading is fundamental.

[LisaM]

3. What purpose does this serve?

It's really divisive, if you ask me.

[portlander23]

7. Really?

You think sending the Senate Democratic Steering and Outreach Committee chair to talk to voters and to badmouth Trump is divisive?

[LisaM]

13. Yes, I do.

It appears to me - clearly you don't agree - that he's doing this because he somehow thinks the outcome of the election would have been different had he been the nominee and he's suddenly all over the airwaves making this claim in one form or another. I find it extremely divisive. It's my opinion. Frankly, I need to stop reading any post with his name on it because every time I think about him I feel as if there are bands tightening around my chest.

[portlander23]

20. Well, I think it would have been different

But in the words of Senator Sanders, "What good does it do now?". The Democratic leadership has picked him as a public face for the party. You're gonna see him around.

[JTFrog]

14. Why does he have to constantly badmouth Dems while doing so?

He just throws the word "establishment" around to chum the waters. He was wrong to do it against Hillary and he's wrong to do it now when we need to focus on the corrupt mother fuckers who just stole this election.

He needs to give it a rest.

[alarimer]

40. Because it is the Democratic establishment that has cost us state houses and Congress

Lost 11 governorships, 69 House seats (gained some in 2016, though), 13 US Senate seats (and gained 2 this year), 913 state legislative seats and 30 state legislative chambers. All since Obama took office. Some of that is because Debbie Wasserman-Shultz was terrible as DNC chair.

Sure, continue to think of this election as stolen. Maybe it was and maybe it wasn't. But the fact is, the Democratic Party is in serious trouble and needs a major house cleaning, if they expect to ever win again. A winning strategy would be to ditch the third-way, triangulating bullshit and attempting to appeal to moderate Republicans and start defending what they used to stand for: unions, defending the social safety net (and improving upon it- and not by half-measures either), public schools, common values of fairness and decency towards all. They can say no to corporate greed and lobbyists.

[George II]

42. Why did he spend 30 or 40 years attacking the Party that now, finally after all those years....

....he's altruistically trying to "save" or "fix" the Party that he spent so much time tearing down?

[RBInMaine]

45. And middle class JOB CREATION and KILL FAILED TRICKLE DOWN!

[RBInMaine]

46. FOCUS on how to WIN again with BETTER CAMPAIGNS. The ESTABLISHMENT is a fucking LOSER!!!

Bernie FILLED STADIUMS. Hillary is a good person and voted for her. But she was of, by, and for the establishment and she just didn't excite people. If I had a dime for everyone who has told me they would have voted for Sanders in the general election instead of Trump I would be a millionaire. And I am talking Indies and even a few REPUBLICANS!!

Bernie has a EXCITING populist message!! We can not be a party just all about identity politics and the cities. The cities are very important, but ignoring the rest of America is political SUICIDE!!

[BeyondGeography]

5. Maybe he can explain why Brownback and Walker get re-elected

why 2/3 of the statehouses are governed by R's and why people in pain keep voting for more pain. Trump's win in the swing states over HRC is the least of it.

[octoberlib]

26. The only reason NC's legislature is still red is gerrymandering.

The R's took over in 2010 and Dems had the votes to re-take it in 2012 , if it wasn't for gerrymandering . And voter suppression.

[BeyondGeography]

28. Yes, our candidates get more votes, we are underrepresented and we face a tyranny of the minority

That is a big part of it. Much more significant than the two parties are "the establishment" and D's don't give people anything to vote for.

[Larkspur]

32. Bernie is right. Many middle class voters are in economic pain

My company just laid of a bunch of people last week. There is a lot of economic anxiety in the middle class.