Would you be ok with Pence being President ?

[JI7]

"Ok" is probably the wrong term . But if it meant keeping trump from being president and electors make Pence president ?

One thing trump had over pence was that he might be better on social issues but we see this won't happen.

I can't see electors voting Clinton or any other democrat. And not even most republicans . But since pence was actually on the ticket it seems they might feel more ok voting him.

[Angry Dragon]

1. no .......... he is smarter than Trump and more nasty

[rzemanfl]

2. No. I am thinking of taking up religion in my old age and praying

some deity smites everyone in the line of Presidential succession down to the first Democrat.

Which if the deity gets off his or her ass, would be John Kerry.

[3catwoman3]

43. I have shared that fantasy.

I'm not sure there would be any Democrats in line, tho. The only one I've heard mentioned is Heitkamp for Agriculture.

Bearing that in mind, I had hopes for Huntsman for SOS, and then some ill fate would only need to befall the top 4.

What's that quote about never wishing anyone dead but reading some obituaries with enjoyment?

[WhiteTara]

3. No.

[Shandris]

4. Trump selected Pence as anti-assassination insurance.

Just think about that.

[Hekate]

58. Trump wanted Christie, and was persuaded to take Pence. I think the sane members of the GOP....

.....look at Pence as their backup for when they have to impeach Trump.

Pence is sane, and he knows government.

On the downside for all the women in the country, he thinks zygotes are sacred and take precedence over the life of any woman who has one in residence, no exceptions. He is a loathsome theocrat. He is a lot of things that scare me, but not as much as Mad King Donald in His Golden Tower.

[roamer65]

5. No.

I want this to go to the House of Reps.

[KamaAina]

13. And just what do you think they'll do?

Each state delegation gets one vote, so it's even more repuke-dominated than usual.

[Paladin]

6. As compared to Trump? Yes. (nt)

[doc03]

7. No!

[Generator]

8. With a heavy heart but a clear mind

Yes. Not okay. But Trump wants to be a dictator. He can possibly get us in a nuclear war. I am thinking of my children unlike Kelly Anne Conway. And he came out against Putin. Nato. Nuclear weapons. We can't get back our rights but not our lives. I'm not sure a third world war is worth my dislike of Pence.

[treestar]

9. only if the alternative is Donald J. Trump

I would hate it, but it would not be as scary. At least he has been a governor. That's all I have to say for him. Dubya didn't scare me with the nuclear codes and neither would Pence. Trump does.

[CanonRay]

42. Ditto

[lame54]

45. Nbush wanted to drop bunker busters on Iraq...

The outcry was swift and loud and they dropped it

But they wanted to

Trump won't bend to an outcry

[dflprincess]

51. But there a few Republicans in Congress who won't rubber stamp what Fat Bastard wants

they probably would for Pence.

[backscatter712]

10. He's already going to be president.

At least unofficially.

I mean, do you actually see Donald doing anything other than tweeting and stumbling and fumbling around in circles?

He's not even bothering to read his intelligence briefings.

So in the Trump administration, someone's got to run the day-to-day business, since Trump's incapable of it, and that's going to be Pence.

So my answer, which goes against the grain here, is that if Pence is going to be running the show anyways, might as well make it official and put the spotlight on him.

Pence is looking to be cryptodictator of the U.S., and he'll be quite uncomfortable, and less able to do what he really wants if he's going to be pushed onto the stage and have the klieg-lights glaring on him.

[JI7]

17. this is how i see it

[SaschaHM]

32. I'm not sure of that anymore....

I think Bannon and Kushner will be running things while Trump provides input and Pence sells his soul when the Trump needs to something passed.

[uponit7771]

50. Yeap, pence is to the right of the bush admin... Trump isn't controllable...

And they're seeing him as a liability

[Dream Girl]

11. He is an attorney so at least would have some understanding of the rule of law

I cannot stomach the idea of seeing Trumps face and hearing his voice for four years...

[Sherman A1]

12. If the Trump election was tainted

Then the Pence election was as well.

[RonniePudding]

14. Pence is much more predictable and lacks charisma

I call him America's funeral director.

[Johnny2X2X]

15. Pence was part of the crooked campaign too

That campaign was crooked as all. They worked with a foreign government to hack the election, anyone in that campaign needs to be as far away from the White House as possible and that includes Pence.

It's like electing the guy driving the getaway car.

[BigDemVoter]

16. Absolutely NOT.

[we can do it]

18. NO

[boston bean]

19. Electors cannot give it to the guy who was on Trumps ticket that was helped by Russians!

Hillary won the popular vote, they need to vote for who people voted for.

[TheFrenchRazor]

65. this. nt

[mcar]

20. Sweet Jesus with a candy cane

No. He's as bad.

[vanlassie]

21. ABSOLUTLAFUCKINGLY NO!

[Calculating]

22. God no

At least Trump isn't religiously motivated. Pence would turn our government into the Christian Taliban.

[hunter]

23. Puckerbutt Pence is this generation's Spiro Agnew.

There's some very ugly shit in his closet.

It pains me to say this, but maybe the best we can rationally hope for is a Gerald Ford.

[JenniferJuniper]

49. I'd kill for a Gerald Ford right about now and

I think it's worth remembering that Spiro beat Nixon out the door.

[elfin]

24. NOOOOOO.

People will be falsely relieved, and real reporting (such as it is)'will cease.

[KatyMan]

25. Maybe with Hillary

Or Bernie as veep....

[ismnotwasm]

26. Fuck no

[onecaliberal]

27. Not only no but fuck no

[50 Shades Of Blue]

34. Ditto. He's monstrous too.

[Barack_America]

28. Yes.

I'd rather deal with shit policies that Dems would have to clean up after (again), than quite possibly, WWIII.

[KittyWampus]

29. Compared to Trump, yes.

[duffyduff]

30. No. He is on the ticket that Putin backed.

He is not acceptable.

[RKP5637]

31. NO! n/t

[Squinch]

33. I'd hate a Pence presidency. I would be having to fight throughout it to hold onto

the rights of myself and the people I know. We know he'd tank the economy. And he'd leave the country a mess.

But that is yonks better than a Trump presidency, in which my worry would be about being dragged into a nuclear war.

Funny how things can always get worse. Except they can't get worse than a Trump presidency. That's the outside boundary.

[Sissyk]

35. Not okay at all.

He Hates the LGBT.
He Hates abortion and a woman's right to choose.
He LOves Religion and all the baggage that goes with that.

I will not say he will be okay when I honestly feel he would be 5 times worse on issues important to Democrats.

[standingtall]

36. Hell no!

Pence might actually be worse than Trump.

[LAS14]

37. NO! But it's a less demagogic scene than having Trump.

If Pence were pres, it would mean that enough people had enough sense to impeach Trump. That's gotta be a good thing.

[Frustratedlady]

38. Good grief, NO! He's as bad or worse than Trump.

[ananda]

39. No and hell no!

I want a redo.

[jmowreader]

40. Tweedledee or Tweetledumass? Nice choice!

It would be nice to say "well, he'd be a smarter president than Trump." That would be true. Problem is, a stillborn Irish Setter puppy would be a smarter president than Trump, and less likely than Pence to turn America into the most extreme theocracy the world has ever known.

This has never happened before in the History of America, but the way presidential elections work is the voters THINK they're voting for the candidate but they're REALLY voting for a slate of electors who go to wherever the Electoral College meets and cast votes for the person their party is supporting. They COULD, if they gave a shit about the nation and the rest of the world, advance a less-weaponized person for all the Republican-pledged electors to vote for.

[mchill]

41. Not OK, but resigned

because although Pence is the worst, Trump is dangerous for this country.

[0rganism]

44. nope

Pence is every bit as lousy as Trump, maybe moreso, but isn't as obviously a buffoonish bully

at this point, i'm thinking the best we can hope for this country is that this orange ball of evil does exactly what it looks like he's setting up to do, and the electorate learns something about Republicans and narcissists by 2018. it's a long shot, but so is everything else.

[Doreen]

46. NO!!!!

[Richard D]

47. Nope

[JenniferJuniper]

48. He wasn't legitimately elected either...

[gademocrat7]

52. No

[NYFlip]

53. No

He's,worse and scarier. He's a real politician

[Warpy]

54. He's a disgusting human being too much like Reagan

but he's not as crazy as Trump is. I would be completely disgusted having that man in the White House.

I wouldn't be afraid for my survival, though. I am with Twittler.

[Tanuki]

55. Would you be OK with requiring every miscarried or aborted fetus,

from conception on, to be transferred to a funeral home for mandatory burial or cremation? Mike Pence signed just such a bill in Indiana (similar to the one in Texas) earlier this year. So no, that is just one reason I wouldn't be be ok with that POS occupying the White House.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/state-mandated-mourning-for-aborted-fetuses/482688/&ved=0ahUKEwjggtOIoPDQAhXKIMAKHQ98CwIQFggpMAU&usg=AFQjCNFQOpo8SknoRwIAQSLMYVVEUGn1HQ&sig2=1TX8hEXaqTRMB2cONuuGGA

[Laffy Kat]

56. Fuck no. nt

[Willie Pep]

57. No.

I think Pence might be worse than Trump.

[Jamaal510]

59. It's pick your poison time

as far as I'm concerned. I'd be less concerned about Mike Pence disrespecting our allies and other foreign leaders, or about him starting a nuclear war than I would be with Donald Trump, and at least he's not as immature. At the same time, I'd be more concerned about him slashing earned benefits and the news media not being as swift to hold him accountable as they would hold DT accountable due to the mere fact that he isn't as bombastic.

[ecstatic]

60. It's a horrible pill to swallow, but Trump has an untreated personality disorder that's getting

worse by the day.

So I've already thought about this. I agree that Trump, because he's so unpredictable, could potentially be better on social issues... But even that's not guaranteed, based on Trump's impulsivity and who he has chosen to surround himself with.

I am not comfortable with Trump's erraticness or volatility. Sadly, Pence would be better than Trump because he's an adult and at least we'd have a blueprint of what to expect.

[GReedDiamond]

61. No...no no no...nt

[DemocraticWing]

62. Absolutely not! As a queer person, Pence is the worst possible outcome.

Even knowing he is VP fills me with dread every day. My husband and I aren't fleeing the country with Trump, but we might have to with Pence to avoid one of his conversion camps.

[SamKnause]

63. No.

Fuck no !!!

[mfcorey1]

64. No!

[Solly Mack]

66. Trump is the type of asshole boss who comes into a room

pontificates for a few minutes on what he wants and then leaves again.

Now, he doesn't know how it should get done and he really doesn't know if it can actually be done or not. Because he doesn't understand the issue - at all. He doesn't know how government works or how to get things accomplished within its structure.

He just knows he wants it, and he wants it now.

Since everyone in that room is responsible for achieving what Trump wants, everyone in that room BUT Trump is president.

Because everyone in that room knows more about government than Trump ever will, and that's scary considering the cabinet picks.

I'd call them Trump's picks but I'm thinking a lot of those picks weren't really his idea until Bannon or Mercer convinced him they were.


I'm not OK with anything about Trump/Pence. Not now. Not tomorrow. Not on January 20th at high noon. Not the day after. Not any day after.

[Raine]

67. NO, I think he's even worse because he has some intellect. nt

[HAB911]

68. He will in effect BE the president.........n/t

[bdamomma]

69. NO

[Vinca]

70. No. He'd have women wearing chastity belts and burkas.

[HughBeaumont]

71. NeoFascist or ChristoFascist.

America is really fucking dumb.